London cabbies to protest over smartphone app.

[Zod]

Vaud said:

I think the point is more nuanced. http://www.pistonheads.com/

How do you call the cab driver without access to the smart phone/app? Grab another smart phone with the same credentials and login?

Log in to your Uber account on any other internet-connected device. It's really not that complicated a concept.

[thebraketester]

Why don't black cabs join uber? Or better still make an app to compete with uber? (Sorry if this has been covered)

[Zod]

thebraketester said:

Why don't black cabs join uber? Or better still make an app to compete with uber? (Sorry if this has been covered)

They can join uber and there are at least two competing apps, Hailo and Gett, but most black cab drivers don't seem to want to be subject to the requirements of the apps, like not refusing fares, cancelling when they see a better prospect, taking card payments and having an electronic record of their fares.

[FrankAbagnale]

Zod said:

thebraketester said:

Why don't black cabs join uber? Or better still make an app to compete with uber? (Sorry if this has been covered)

They can join uber and there are at least two competing apps, Hailo and Gett, but most black cab drivers don't seem to want to be subject to the requirements of the apps, like not refusing fares, cancelling when they see a better prospect, taking card payments and having an electronic record of their fares.

I'm not sure how it works - but don't uber drivers only see your destination once you get in the car/pickup is complete?

Also, why wouldn't a cabbie want an electronic record of their fares?

[George111]

FrankAbagnale said:

Also, why wouldn't a cabbie want an electronic record of their fares?

Really ? What do you think the real rate of income tax paid by a taxi driver is ?

[Zod]

FrankAbagnale said:

Zod said:

thebraketester said:

Why don't black cabs join uber? Or better still make an app to compete with uber? (Sorry if this has been covered)

They can join uber and there are at least two competing apps, Hailo and Gett, but most black cab drivers don't seem to want to be subject to the requirements of the apps, like not refusing fares, cancelling when they see a better prospect, taking card payments and having an electronic record of their fares.

I'm not sure how it works - but don't uber drivers only see your destination once you get in the car/pickup is complete?

Also, why wouldn't a cabbie want an electronic record of their fares?

Most people put in their destination when they order, to get a fare estimate. You don't have to though.

As for the second question....

[FrankAbagnale]

Zod said:

FrankAbagnale said:

Zod said:

thebraketester said:

Why don't black cabs join uber? Or better still make an app to compete with uber? (Sorry if this has been covered)

They can join uber and there are at least two competing apps, Hailo and Gett, but most black cab drivers don't seem to want to be subject to the requirements of the apps, like not refusing fares, cancelling when they see a better prospect, taking card payments and having an electronic record of their fares.

I'm not sure how it works - but don't uber drivers only see your destination once you get in the car/pickup is complete?

Also, why wouldn't a cabbie want an electronic record of their fares?

Most people put in their destination when they order, to get a fare estimate. You don't have to though.

As for the second question....

I was under the impression that the driver didn't see the fare estimate part.

[Zod]

FrankAbagnale said:

Zod said:

FrankAbagnale said:

Zod said:

thebraketester said:

Why don't black cabs join uber? Or better still make an app to compete with uber? (Sorry if this has been covered)

They can join uber and there are at least two competing apps, Hailo and Gett, but most black cab drivers don't seem to want to be subject to the requirements of the apps, like not refusing fares, cancelling when they see a better prospect, taking card payments and having an electronic record of their fares.

I'm not sure how it works - but don't uber drivers only see your destination once you get in the car/pickup is complete?

Also, why wouldn't a cabbie want an electronic record of their fares?

Most people put in their destination when they order, to get a fare estimate. You don't have to though.

As for the second question....

I was under the impression that the driver didn't see the fare estimate part.

I don't know whether he sees the number (can't see why he shouldn't), but he definitely sees your destination.

[FrankAbagnale]

George111 said:

Really ? What do you think the real rate of income tax paid by a taxi driver is ?

Zod said:

ost people put in their destination when they order, to get a fare estimate. You don't have to though.

As for the second question....

I just wanted to make sure that the black cab drivers were annoyed that they wouldn't be able to avoid paying tax.

20,000+ black cabs in London. That would be a lot of tax.

[iphonedyou]

anonymous said:

[redacted]

That's the black taxis. The private hires are normal companies.

[Zod]

FrankAbagnale said:

I just wanted to make sure that the black cab drivers were annoyed that they wouldn't be able to avoid paying tax.

20,000+ black cabs in London. That would be a lot of tax.

I wonder what the average earnings figure declared to HMRC is.

[sleep envy]

FrankAbagnale said:

George111 said:

Really ? What do you think the real rate of income tax paid by a taxi driver is ?

Zod said:

ost people put in their destination when they order, to get a fare estimate. You don't have to though.

As for the second question....

I just wanted to make sure that the black cab drivers were annoyed that they wouldn't be able to avoid paying tax.

20,000+ black cabs in London. That would be a lot of tax.

HMRC will review fuel receipts and the mileage between overalls (black cab MOT) if they think the driver is taking the piss with their declared income.

Any account work, should the diver be on a circuit, will be docket logged. Whilst it is mainly a cash business, account work aside, it's not that easy to stash thousands under the mattress.

[sleep envy]

Zod said:

I wonder what the average earnings figure declared to HMRC is.

Depends on hours worked and the hours of the day that the driver works, if he owns or rents a cab, whether or not on a circuit, if owns own cab whether he has a night man who he rents the cab out to or rents the cab whilst on holiday, etc

Piece of string question.

[Zod]

sleep envy said:

Zod said:

I wonder what the average earnings figure declared to HMRC is.

Depends on hours worked and the hours of the day that the driver works, if he owns or rents a cab, whether or not on a circuit, if owns own cab whether he has a night man who he rents the cab out to or rents the cab whilst on holiday, etc

Piece of string question.

That wasn't really my point.

[sleep envy]

Zod said:

That wasn't really my point.

Expand for me then.

[Zod]

sleep envy said:

Zod said:

That wasn't really my point.

Expand for me then.

You responded to it with your defence of taxi drivers in your previous post.

[sleep envy]

Zod said:

defence of taxi drivers

[johnfm]

French cabbies now blockading streets in protest at Uber.

Imagine if the French had been as militant as their current workforce back in WW2...

[okgo]

Customer service fantastic today, got a car, realised the prat was watching tv on his phone while driving (had it balanced by the speedo) - this caused him to sit stationary twice when he should have been moving, prompting horns from others, and a couple of missed lights, which made me a couple of mins late for meeting.

Left a 1 star review with a comment, a CS rep emailed me under 5 mins later saying it would be dealt with and they do not condone this sort of thing (obviously) and gave me £10 credit.

[George111]

Hopefully from 2020 we'll see the end of the hideous, odious, uncomfortable and noisy black cab anyway as they will mostly be scrapped and replaced.

https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/ultra-low-emissio...