Islam and the West

[Mermaid]

Alpinestars said:

KarimK, give up. Mermaid likes to st stir

Please yourselves guys, you do need to to do something about the bad press (subject of this conversation) you are in your opinion 'falsely" suffering.

[gpo746]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-28419901

"An "aggressive Islamist agenda" was being pursued in some of the so-called Trojan horse schools in Birmingham, says a Department for Education report"

Fortunately it was stopped.
Hopefully those naughty radicals won't try that sort of thing again but if they do you can expect the usual suspects to pop along and make apologies.



And no mention of "whitey" in the post either I must have had a makeover oh hang on I just did..damn

Edited by gpo746 on Tuesday 22 July 12:20

[Lost soul]

islam is not really compatible with a western Christian state

[KareemK]

Lost soul said:

Islam is not really compatible with a western Christian state

Thats why the 'reverse-missionary' action is taking place.

For hundreds of years the Europeans sent people out into foreign lands to change their belief system and way of life and now there's a little "bounce-back".

Whats the internet word? Oh yeah, "meh"

I personally don't consider the UK to be a "Christian" state in the same sense that (say) Iran is a "Muslim" state anyway. If it were the churches wouldn't be less than 10% full each Sunday.

There is only one way forward from here.

[Mr_B]

KareemK said:

Lost soul said:

Islam is not really compatible with a western Christian state

I personally don't consider the UK to be a "Christian" state in the same sense that (say) Iran is a "Muslim" state anyway. If it were the churches wouldn't be less than 10% full each Sunday.

There is only one way forward from here.

Hope that all religious buildings of worship the world over become 10% full or less ideally ?

[Getragdogleg]

KareemK said:

[There is only one way forward from here.

Hopefully that is the giving up of organised religion from all sides so we can just move on from arguing about which set of rules is better.

[Mermaid]

Getragdogleg said:

KareemK said:

[There is only one way forward from here.

Hopefully that is the giving up of organised religion from all sides so we can just move on from arguing about which set of rules is better.

Agreed, close thread.

[KareemK]

Mermaid said:

Getragdogleg said:

KareemK said:

[There is only one way forward from here.

Hopefully that is the giving up of organised religion from all sides so we can just move on from arguing about which set of rules is better.

Agreed, close thread.

Well, lets not be too hasty here. I'd quite like to see "whitey" (as gpo calls them) do a little squirming for a while now that some religious fundamentalists are over here doing what "whitey" did in Africa/Asia/Every beach they rocked up on for 100's of years. Looking at gpo's posts its working too

[WinstonWolf]

KareemK said:

Mermaid said:

Getragdogleg said:

KareemK said:

[There is only one way forward from here.

Hopefully that is the giving up of organised religion from all sides so we can just move on from arguing about which set of rules is better.

Agreed, close thread.

Well, lets not be too hasty here. I'd quite like to see "whitey" (as gpo calls them) do a little squirming for a while now that some religious fundamentalists are over here doing what "whitey" did in Africa/Asia/Every beach they rocked up on for 100's of years. Looking at gpo's posts its working too

Do you support religious fundamentalism then?

[Mermaid]

KareemK said:

I'd quite like to see "whitey" (as gpo calls them) do a little squirming for a while now that some religious fundamentalists are over here doing what "whitey" did in Africa/Asia/Every beach they rocked up on for 100's of years.

You need help

[KareemK]

WinstonWolf said:

Do you support religious fundamentalism then?

[WinstonWolf]

KareemK said:

WinstonWolf said:

Do you support religious fundamentalism then?

It's a simple enough question, from your statement it sounds like you do...

[KareemK]

Mermaid said:

KareemK said:

I'd quite like to see "whitey" (as gpo calls them) do a little squirming for a while now that some religious fundamentalists are over here doing what "whitey" did in Africa/Asia/Every beach they rocked up on for 100's of years.

You need help

it's just a bit of fun Mermaid.

BTW, and not that its important, but your PH suggests you are a female, is that a correct assumption? Only a veil is a veil be it a garment or an internet name.

No need to answer if you don't want to be "communicative" I can respect that.

[Mr_B]

I think the general feeling is that shaking off religion in the UK as it did from ( roughly )the 60's onward was a good thing, and one which was thankfully dieing a death. Sadly just as it reached its irrelevance, another one in the form of Islam came along and started growing. Being rather more sick than other religions, it quickly caused problems with its stone age 'thinking' and hasn't exactly proved popular, there being not a single benefit to be had.

You don't have to be that old to remember a time when if you said a cartoon offended you or a novel did the same, anyone with a brain would either ignore you or tell you to fk off and grow up. Replacing one religion with an even more backward one isn't viewed as progress. Don't get too upset if people feel they been dragged backwards.

[Einion Yrth]

Mr_B said:

stone age 'thinking'

Be fair, it's bronze age.

[KareemK]

WinstonWolf said:

KareemK said:

WinstonWolf said:

Do you support religious fundamentalism then?

It's a simple enough question, from your statement it sounds like you do...

OK, but I have stated my beliefs (and specifically my lack of them) previously.

However, watching one side get all hot-under-the-collar about something that they themselves did for many-many decades I find amusing.

[WinstonWolf]

KareemK said:

WinstonWolf said:

KareemK said:

WinstonWolf said:

Do you support religious fundamentalism then?

It's a simple enough question, from your statement it sounds like you do...

OK, but I have stated my beliefs (and specifically my lack of them) previously.

However, watching one side get all hot-under-the-collar about something that they themselves did for many-many decades I find amusing.

I haven't read every one of your replies. So just to confirm, you do *not* support them?
Get rid of all religion I say, every time I ask someone to demonstrate the difference between the stories of Santa and of the various profits no-one has come up with a plausible explanation...

[irocfan]

KareemK said:

WinstonWolf said:

KareemK said:

WinstonWolf said:

Do you support religious fundamentalism then?

It's a simple enough question, from your statement it sounds like you do...

OK, but I have stated my beliefs (and specifically my lack of them) previously.

However, watching one side get all hot-under-the-collar about something that they themselves did for many-many decades I find amusing.

difference being years ago we had different standards in what was acceptable and what not - time has moved on

[Digga]

irocfan said:

KareemK said:

WinstonWolf said:

KareemK said:

WinstonWolf said:

Do you support religious fundamentalism then?

It's a simple enough question, from your statement it sounds like you do...

OK, but I have stated my beliefs (and specifically my lack of them) previously.

However, watching one side get all hot-under-the-collar about something that they themselves did for many-many decades I find amusing.

difference being years ago we had different standards in what was acceptable and what not - time has moved on

Precisely. As Gandhi said; an eye for an eye leaves us all blind. Justifying misdeeds of one party on the basis that another once did the same is incredible.

[Mermaid]

irocfan said:

difference being years ago we had different standards in what was acceptable and what not - time has moved on

yes, & most people have too.