ebola, anyone else mildly terrified?

[JagLover]

Bill said:

You'd have to check every single incoming passport for visas from affected countries, which would be a monumental task and would probably cause large airports to grind to a halt within hours.

Passports are already checked for foreign passport holders. My experience (at US passport control) is that this takes a few minutes already, not sure how flicking through the Visa stamps is going to significantly increase that.

Yes there will be delays for EU passport holders, which could be partially mitigated by a temporary boost in border staff.

In economic terms alone better to spend an extra sum of money in the tens of millions, plus longer queues, rather than risk economic collapse, which is what a outbreak in the UK would cause.

[Jimbeaux]

Bill said:

Jimbeaux said:

So the nurse calls to say her fever is at 99. The idiot at the CDC reads a chart and says congratulations, you are good up until 100! So, the fact that this nurse was one caring for a person who recently exploded from Ebola didn't maybe give her and extra half degree as a bonus prize?? Common sense has taken a direct hit in his nutsack. The CDC head comes on TV saying she should never have gotten on the plane. Thank you Sherlock; however, since it is your people making dumbassed mistakes like this, and you are in charge of them, it is time for you to go to the house and let the incompetents in charge of you find someone else.

And... They sent the patient away with antibiotics at first and when he came back two days later didn't isolate him immediately. They then didn't get the nursing staff suited up until the diagnosis was confirmed a further two days later.

They fked up big time, and the medical director (IIRC) has made a public apology.

He should be fired as well. Find people who can do the job, there are plenty around who can.

[mcgandalf]

Apparently the passenger on the plane grounded in Madrid flew in from Nigeria via Paris.

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and...

The Indy reports that there have been no new Ebola cases in Nigeria since 8th September, and we're just shy of a week off the 42-day period needed for the WHO to confirm Nigeria is Ebola-free.

I strongly suspect he is simply sporting man flu.

(If not, how long did he spend and where did he go in Paris??)

[2013BRM]

Jimbeaux said:

Bill said:

Jimbeaux said:

So the nurse calls to say her fever is at 99. The idiot at the CDC reads a chart and says congratulations, you are good up until 100! So, the fact that this nurse was one caring for a person who recently exploded from Ebola didn't maybe give her and extra half degree as a bonus prize?? Common sense has taken a direct hit in his nutsack. The CDC head comes on TV saying she should never have gotten on the plane. Thank you Sherlock; however, since it is your people making dumbassed mistakes like this, and you are in charge of them, it is time for you to go to the house and let the incompetents in charge of you find someone else.

And... They sent the patient away with antibiotics at first and when he came back two days later didn't isolate him immediately. They then didn't get the nursing staff suited up until the diagnosis was confirmed a further two days later.

They fked up big time, and the medical director (IIRC) has made a public apology.

He should be fired as well. Find people who can do the job, there are plenty around who can.

yup sack some sense into him, a bungle like that is inexcusable

[Bill]

They'd have to check 32 pages for stamps (assuming they're all legible). You could mitigate that with draconian punishment if you're caught lying in reply to the question "Have you visited west Africa recently?" but even checking one in ten passports properly would be prohibitive.

[ikarl]

Hospital in Connecticut is evaluating a new patient for symptoms

[benjj]

mcgandalf said:

Apparently the passenger on the plane grounded in Madrid flew in from Nigeria via Paris.

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and...

The Indy reports that there have been no new Ebola cases in Nigeria since 8th September, and we're just shy of a week off the 42-day period needed for the WHO to confirm Nigeria is Ebola-free.

I strongly suspect he is simply sporting man flu.

(If not, how long did he spend and where did he go in Paris??)

If this dude does break with ebola then it is an excellent example of just how much st places like Nigeria are talking.

[XJ Flyer]

JagLover said:

Bill said:

You'd have to check every single incoming passport for visas from affected countries, which would be a monumental task and would probably cause large airports to grind to a halt within hours.

Passports are already checked for foreign passport holders. My experience (at US passport control) is that this takes a few minutes already, not sure how flicking through the Visa stamps is going to significantly increase that.

Yes there will be delays for EU passport holders, which could be partially mitigated by a temporary boost in border staff.

In economic terms alone better to spend an extra sum of money in the tens of millions, plus longer queues, rather than risk economic collapse, which is what a outbreak in the UK would cause.

The scientists are gradually listening to the voice of reason and obviously now looking for advice on PH.Meanwhile the experts at the WHO don't seem to agree.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2783829/Epidemolo...

[Jimbeaux]

You all are correct, this flu season is going to be a straight up bh! I may wander into a local hospital with a boner than won't go down and claim Elephantitis just to throw some variety into the mix.

[plasticpig]

Jimbeaux said:

The nurses first saw Mr. Duncan without PPE because he was just another patient; there was no immediate reason to suspect Ebola, they were not privvy to where he had been. In the other cases, the patients came in as known Ebola patients. If that is how this was spread, there is hope. If we can stop the stupidity, AKA what my last post decribes, we may be able to isolate and let this thing die on the vine. However, if we continue to refuse a travel ban, then it will not. Temperature checks at the airport are useless for a number of reasons already discussed.

It appears there wasn't a "protocol breach" at all. It sounds very much like there wasn't a protocol . Plenty of pictures and information now showing up with medical staff not properly kitted up; given the wrong information about face masks. Allegedly the nurses were allowed to treat other patients as well.

[benjj]

ikarl said:

Hospital in Connecticut is evaluating a new patient for symptoms

Worrying if it turns out to be the case. Huge numbers of people take Amtrak up and down there, in and out of New York, Boston etc a bazillion times a day...

[benjj]

plasticpig said:

It appears there wasn't a "protocol breach" at all. It sounds very much like there wasn't a protocol . Plenty of pictures and information now showing up with medical staff not properly kitted up; given the wrong information about face masks. Allegedly the nurses were allowed to treat other patients as well.

[otolith]

Send them. Send them all. With any luck, most of them won't come back.

https://www.change.org/p/dr-daniel-kertesz-who-end...

[XJ Flyer]

mcgandalf said:

Apparently the passenger on the plane grounded in Madrid flew in from Nigeria via Paris.

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and...

The Indy reports that there have been no new Ebola cases in Nigeria since 8th September, and we're just shy of a week off the 42-day period needed for the WHO to confirm Nigeria is Ebola-free.

I strongly suspect he is simply sporting man flu.

(If not, how long did he spend and where did he go in Paris??)

The question is did his journey originate in Nigeria or somewhere else like Liberia etc while even Nigeria is actually on the list in the case of those countries which have imposed travel bans like Colombia.

[AshVX220]

croyde said:

AshVX220 said:

Yep, Tom Clancy - Executive Orders.

Tom has probably given too many good ideas to the Jizzlamists. He wrote a book that had the enemy taking over a shopping mall and murdering people long before it happened in real life.

In fact so did another writer, Stephen Hunter.

Ideed, he also had someone fly a passenger airliner into a building - Debt of Honour. LOL

[plasticpig]

otolith said:

Send them. Send them all. With any luck, most of them won't come back.

https://www.change.org/p/dr-daniel-kertesz-who-end...

Can we send them some crystal healers and magnetic healing bracelet advocates as well? Perhaps they can swap healing techniques with the local witch doctors.

[otolith]

[Lost soul]

An Air France plane flying from Paris to Madrid has been quarantined in Madrid due to a passenger showing symptoms of Ebola !!!

probably just flu

[B17NNS]

plasticpig said:

Can we send them some crystal healers and magnetic healing bracelet advocates as well? Perhaps they can swap healing techniques with the local witch doctors.

Nonsense. Do something productive like pray for a miracle instead.

[B17NNS]

Lost soul said:

An Air France plane flying from Paris to Madrid has been quarantined in Madrid due to a passenger showing symptoms of Ebola !!!

probably just flu

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