ebola, anyone else mildly terrified?

ebola, anyone else mildly terrified?

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Thankyou4calling

10,595 posts

172 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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Snoggledog said:
One thing that's obvious from this article is that Ebola is spread in Africa through a degree of ignorance whilst in North America it will be spread through arrogance.
But it won't spread in the Western world.

There will be the odd case, people who think have got it but haven't, but by and large it won't spread.

Far more contagious things out there than Ebola. Let's see how many fuel of flu this winter.

irocfan

40,153 posts

189 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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JagLover said:
Snoggledog said:
One thing that's obvious from this article is that Ebola is spread in Africa through a degree of ignorance whilst in North America it will be spread through arrogance.
Seems a very sensible precaution to me as it is health workers predominantly affected in the west. But apparently civil liberties take precedence over health precautions to some.
seriously??? What the juddering fk is going through people's minds???

Bill

52,479 posts

254 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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irocfan said:
seriously??? What the juddering fk is going through people's minds???
I know, it's a ridiculous knee jerk reaction that will put people off going to help. We should be treating these health workers as the heroes they are.

JagLover

42,266 posts

234 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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Bill said:
irocfan said:
seriously??? What the juddering fk is going through people's minds???
I know, it's a ridiculous knee jerk reaction that will put people off going to help. We should be treating these health workers as the heroes they are.
Treat them as heroes but put them in quarantine.

I am not of the opinion that the west would just shrug off Ebola in the event of an outbreak. Health workers are most at risk so a quarantine period of 21 days seems sensible.

otolith

55,899 posts

203 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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I wonder how long someone has to test negative for in order to be sure that they are not incubating. Substantially less than the maximum anticipated incubation period for the virus, I should think.

plasticpig

12,932 posts

224 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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JagLover said:
Treat them as heroes but put them in quarantine.

I am not of the opinion that the west would just shrug off Ebola in the event of an outbreak. Health workers are most at risk so a quarantine period of 21 days seems sensible.
What about healthcare workers treating Ebola in the US or Europe? MSF in West Africa have a far far better infected patient to infected medical worker ratio than the US or Spain does.


Colonial

13,553 posts

204 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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Thankyou4calling said:
But it won't spread in the Western world.

There will be the odd case, people who think have got it but haven't, but by and large it won't spread.

Far more contagious things out there than Ebola. Let's see how many fuel of flu this winter.
It's mainly spread through poor sanitation and the like. So it can be dealt with far easier in the west.

Things like SARS, Bird Flu etc (remember them, the last major health crisis we were all going to die from) are far more easily transmittable.

But people like a good old end of the world scenario I guess.

bosshog

1,574 posts

275 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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Colonial said:
It's mainly spread through poor sanitation and the like. So it can be dealt with far easier in the west.

Things like SARS, Bird Flu etc (remember them, the last major health crisis we were all going to die from) are far more easily transmittable.

But people like a good old end of the world scenario I guess.
SARS didn't take off DUE to the action that was taken. Get your facts straight. It may already be too late anyhow http://www.wired.com/2014/10/ebola-endemic/

Lost soul

8,712 posts

181 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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JagLover said:
Snoggledog said:
One thing that's obvious from this article is that Ebola is spread in Africa through a degree of ignorance whilst in North America it will be spread through arrogance.
Seems a very sensible precaution to me as it is health workers predominantly affected in the west. But apparently civil liberties take precedence over health precautions to some.
She as a health worker should be ashamed of herself , 3 weeks quarantine is a prudent precaution how on earth she can see fit to sue for compo is beyond me

soad

32,829 posts

175 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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Lost soul said:
She as a health worker should be ashamed of herself , 3 weeks quarantine is a prudent precaution how on earth she can see fit to sue for compo is beyond me
Dogs get quarantined for up to 6 months (in some cases), I believe?

otolith

55,899 posts

203 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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soad said:
Dogs get quarantined for up to 6 months (in some cases), I believe?
That's because the incubation period for rabies can be as long as six months in dogs.

irocfan

40,153 posts

189 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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Lost soul said:
JagLover said:
Snoggledog said:
One thing that's obvious from this article is that Ebola is spread in Africa through a degree of ignorance whilst in North America it will be spread through arrogance.
Seems a very sensible precaution to me as it is health workers predominantly affected in the west. But apparently civil liberties take precedence over health precautions to some.
She as a health worker should be ashamed of herself , 3 weeks quarantine is a prudent precaution how on earth she can see fit to sue for compo is beyond me
as an aside US forces personnel are subject to 3 weeks Q

bosshog

1,574 posts

275 months

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

230 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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Second Dallas nurse declared Ebola free.

Colonial

13,553 posts

204 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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bosshog said:
SARS didn't take off DUE to the action that was taken. Get your facts straight. It may already be too late anyhow http://www.wired.com/2014/10/ebola-endemic/
Errr... I wasn't saying that in the slightest.

I was saying that of the major "OMG WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE" episodes of the last 10 years they were more concerning as they were air borne.

I don't tend to touch poo and spew. So my chances of getting infected are quite low. Precautions should be taken, medical research undertaken, but the poor sanitation that goes with extreme poverty is causing a lot of the spreading of the disease in Africa. And that is something that can easily be fixed.

DUMBO100

1,878 posts

183 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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Sorry getmecoat

otolith

55,899 posts

203 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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It's a shame they named a disease after the river, Ebola would have been a good name for a Lotus.

thehawk

9,335 posts

206 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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Colonial said:
but the poor sanitation that goes with extreme poverty is causing a lot of the spreading of the disease in Africa. And that is something that can easily be fixed.
And Islamic body washing rituals are causing a large percentage of infections.

Colonial

13,553 posts

204 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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thehawk said:
And Islamic body washing rituals are causing a large percentage of infections.
Interesting. Wasn't aware of that.

You got a link? Not disbelief, just genuine interest.

QuantumTokoloshi

4,161 posts

216 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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I have been talking to a good friend of the doctor,now deceased, who treated the Liberian parient in Nigeria. A very close run thing for Nigeria. The Liberian, was the son of an ex president of liberia, and diplomatic pressure was brought on her to release him. Which she resisted
and stopped him and the diplomatic representative from leaving, it was during this episode and his violent reaction to it, that she got infected.

Hearing the families experience from a close friend was shocking, imagine having to check your children, every few hours to see if they have a raised temperature and probably will go on to die if they do, sounds soul destroying. All this after their mother had already died.

The friend is also a doctor, and he made no mistake, he was petrified of this disease having seen how his colleague died from it.

Edited by QuantumTokoloshi on Thursday 30th October 13:56