ebola, anyone else mildly terrified?

[Jimbeaux]

sjabrown said:

Confirmed case, isolated quickly. Hopefully nobody else has been in contact with body fluid.

http://news.scotland.gov.uk/News/Ebola-case-1414.a...

Yea but how many were in close proximity before the confirmation? One can be contagious just before symptoms are openly apparent.

[wiliferus]

It was only a matter of time.

Am I the only one thinking that going to Africa to help is a very noble cause,but if it risks bringing it back to your home country in your return, it's bloody stupid and potentially counter productive.

And as for border checks, surely people like this who have definately been in direct contact with the disease should have an advanced screening before they travel.

[Snoggledog]

So are we saying that not only is there a risk to the UK, but that she could have exposed any number people in Morocco too?

Edited by Snoggledog on Monday 29th December 19:57

[Puggit]

Snoggledog said:

So are we saying that not only is there a risk to the UK, but that she could have exposed any number people in Morocco too?

Edited by Snoggledog on Monday 29th December 19:57

Transit in Casablanca and Heathrow - personally I think this should be some kind of criminal offence.

[DJRC]

fking livid. What the fk is the point of a passenger manifest??

[Edinburger]

Puggit said:

Snoggledog said:

So are we saying that not only is there a risk to the UK, but that she could have exposed any number people in Morocco too?

Edited by Snoggledog on Monday 29th December 19:57

Transit in Casablanca and Heathrow - personally I think this should be some kind of criminal offence.

Agreed - it's outrageous.

[dandarez]

She went out on the 23 Nov apparently. Screened before she left and at Heathrow, then within hours of being home in Glasgow she's ill.

WTF! - I thought there was a 21 day incubation period to ensure you did not have it? That could not have been followed unless she went out and worked for just a couple weeks. But as she has been confirmed, she must have been working longer.

[Snoggledog]

dandarez said:

She went out on the 23 Nov apparently. Screened before she left and at Heathrow, then within hours of being home in Glasgow she's ill.

WTF! - I thought there was a 21 day incubation period to ensure you did not have it? That could not have been followed unless she went out and worked for just a couple weeks. But as she has been confirmed, she must have been working longer.

Symptoms can present themselves between 2 and 21 days after infection. After 21 days is deemed 'safe' of Ebola

[dandarez]

Snoggledog said:

dandarez said:

She went out on the 23 Nov apparently. Screened before she left and at Heathrow, then within hours of being home in Glasgow she's ill.

WTF! - I thought there was a 21 day incubation period to ensure you did not have it? That could not have been followed unless she went out and worked for just a couple weeks. But as she has been confirmed, she must have been working longer.

Symptoms can present themselves between 2 and 21 days after infection. After 21 days is deemed 'safe' of Ebola

Well, I know my maths are ste, but let's say she worked for 2 weeks. That would leave 22 days before she landed back here.
Let's think about it. If it can present itself between 2 and 21 days, do you think she had a period of ensuring she had not got it, or simply worked on for 5 weeks (approx) then time to go home, was screened (fine) landed screened (fine) got home and was sick?

Or does that have a shaky finger too? I'm no expert but remember Mr Pooley coming home in isolation on a RAF C31 (I think). And I also seem to remember reading that several places were being set up beside the London Royal Free Hospital ...just in case ... but it now transpires Sturgeon has called CMD and the patient will be transferred to the ...London Free.

Let's hope this is isolated.

Edited by dandarez on Monday 29th December 21:09

[Snoggledog]

dandarez said:

Well, I know my maths are ste, but let's say she worked for 2 weeks. That would leave 22 days before she landed back here.
Let's think about it. If it can present itself between 2 and 21 days, do you think she had a period of ensuring she had not got it, or simply worked on for 5 weeks (approx) then time to go home, was screened (fine) landed screened (fine) got home and was sick?

Or does that have a shaky finger too? I'm no expert but remember Mr Pooley coming home in isolation on a RAF C31 (I think). And I also seem to remember reading that several places were being set up beside the London Royal Free Hospital ...just in case ... but it now transpires Sturgeon has called CMD and the patient will be transferred to the ...London Free.

Let's hope this is isolated.

Edited by dandarez on Monday 29th December 21:09

Beg pardon.. I was responding to your point that there is a 21 day incubation period.

[dandarez]

Snoggledog said:

dandarez said:

Well, I know my maths are ste, but let's say she worked for 2 weeks. That would leave 22 days before she landed back here.
Let's think about it. If it can present itself between 2 and 21 days, do you think she had a period of ensuring she had not got it, or simply worked on for 5 weeks (approx) then time to go home, was screened (fine) landed screened (fine) got home and was sick?

Or does that have a shaky finger too? I'm no expert but remember Mr Pooley coming home in isolation on a RAF C31 (I think). And I also seem to remember reading that several places were being set up beside the London Royal Free Hospital ...just in case ... but it now transpires Sturgeon has called CMD and the patient will be transferred to the ...London Free.

Let's hope this is isolated.

Edited by dandarez on Monday 29th December 21:09

Beg pardon.. I was responding to your point that there is a 21 day incubation period.

That's ok. But I ain't snoggledogging up to you... just to be on the safe side!

Let's hope this ends like the Virgin Atlantic drama earlier. Without further incident.

[Dan_1981]

So she's only been out there a month?

My bet is that she was pretty much aware that she had possibly contracted, and wanted to be a little safer in one of the best hospitals in the world rather than a tent in West Africa.

[dandarez]

Dan_1981 said:

So she's only been out there a month?

My bet is that she was pretty much aware that she had possibly contracted, and wanted to be a little safer in one of the best hospitals in the world rather than a tent in West Africa.

Let's be fair. Five weeks, not a month. But up to what point was she 'working'. My bet is right up to the last. Will we find out?

[matchmaker]

Good reporting by Sky News. Apparently the patient is in Gartnavel Royal Hospital. Hope not - that's a mental hospital!

[stu67]

Mad really. I worked out in Guinea for a while, if I can remember that flight through Morocco with Air Maroc has quite a long lay over of about 4 hours in the terminal. Presumably she would have been wondering around eating, going to the toilet etc etc so she's put a load of people at risk. Should have 2 weeks quarantine in country after last known contact. I thought this was why the Navy etc were out there.

[Terminator X]

Surely only at risk if contact made with bodily fluids?



TX.

[hidetheelephants]

matchmaker said:

Good reporting by Sky News. Apparently the patient is in Gartnavel Royal Hospital. Hope not - that's a mental hospital!

Gartnavel has been developed into a general hospital to take over from the Western Infirmary, which will be(or already has been) closed.

Edited by hidetheelephants on Tuesday 30th December 04:33

[Crush]

Is there risk of the aircrew getting this too and passing it onto passengers on other flights as well?

[hidetheelephants]

Crush said:

Is there risk of the aircrew getting this too and passing it onto passengers on other flights as well?

No, as the infected do not become infectious for 2-3 weeks.

[McWigglebum4th]

Edinburger said:

Puggit said:

Snoggledog said:

So are we saying that not only is there a risk to the UK, but that she could have exposed any number people in Morocco too?

Edited by Snoggledog on Monday 29th December 19:57

Transit in Casablanca and Heathrow - personally I think this should be some kind of criminal offence.

Agreed - it's outrageous.

So lets look at this criminal offence of flying while possibly being infected with ebola


Do you know that you can be 100% certain you have not come in contact with someone with ebola?

Realistically you can't


Have you been tested for ebola this week

Of course you haven't



So explain how you can fly