ebola, anyone else mildly terrified?
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Mr GrimNasty said:
Pauline Cafferkey has made (another!) full recovery, lucky woman, must be a fighter though.
A bit of a twist to this story. The nurse in question now faces disciplinary action by the nursing and midwifery council because they allege that she lied to Public Health England at Heathrow when she initially flew back to the UK from West Africa. This meant that they let her on a plane back to Glasgow. http://www.scotsman.com/news/pauline-cafferkey-acc...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/18/ebola-n...
t from their membersBlackLabel said:
Mr GrimNasty said:
Pauline Cafferkey has made (another!) full recovery, lucky woman, must be a fighter though.
A bit of a twist to this story. The nurse in question now faces disciplinary action by the nursing and midwifery council because they allege that she lied to Public Health England at Heathrow when she initially flew back to the UK from West Africa. This meant that they let her on a plane back to Glasgow. http://www.scotsman.com/news/pauline-cafferkey-acc...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/18/ebola-n...
I'm assuming the recorder of that temperature (who measured her accurate temperature and then announced s/he was writing down a lower one) is going to be facing their own investigation in due course.
I cannot imagine that anyone who'd seen Ebola firsthand would knowingly bring it into this country, however scared they were for themselves. I expect most medics would sooner just quietly top themselves.
Yesterday's update from the hearing here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west...
The hearing has now finished and she's been cleared of everything. I guess it had to be looked into but I'm not sure it was her conduct that needed examining at that point.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west...
Smokehead said:
Rightly or wrongly, I think she has suffered enough. Hopefully her nightmare is over.
I agree. I also think bringing this against her was the wrong decision. I bet the people that decided to bring this against her haven't been out there fighting this disease on the front line either. And wouldn't. Like the politicians that decide we need pointless wars that are happy to send other peoples sons and daughters off to.
SilverSpur said:
Smokehead said:
Rightly or wrongly, I think she has suffered enough. Hopefully her nightmare is over.
I agree. I also think bringing this against her was the wrong decision. I bet the people that decided to bring this against her haven't been out there fighting this disease on the front line either. And wouldn't. Like the politicians that decide we need pointless wars that are happy to send other peoples sons and daughters off to.
SilverSpur said:
Smokehead said:
Rightly or wrongly, I think she has suffered enough. Hopefully her nightmare is over.
I agree. I also think bringing this against her was the wrong decision. I bet the people that decided to bring this against her haven't been out there fighting this disease on the front line either. And wouldn't. Like the politicians that decide we need pointless wars that are happy to send other peoples sons and daughters off to.
I am glad that she is well and understand that she was unwell, not thinking straight and that the system for checking her on arrival was chaotic, but the fact remains is that she knew she felt unwell, had taken drugs to help, had symptoms which might have been related to Ebola and was returning from an infected area.
It did turn out to be Ebola and, if that had spread, it would have been a disaster and risked the lives of many and so bringing a case was quite appropriate.
Yep, a proper whitewash.
Strange that despite not being compus mentus from the disease, she knew that paracetamol would help lower her temp and that recording a temp of 37.5 not the 38+ that she read would get her on plane back home...! I mean, if she had eaten a tin of spam and written down her temp was 3454.9 degrees, that would suggest she wasn't compus mentus! But she JUST so happened to take the correct meds and write down a perfect number. What are the odds?
Will "lessons be learned" I wonder?
Strange that despite not being compus mentus from the disease, she knew that paracetamol would help lower her temp and that recording a temp of 37.5 not the 38+ that she read would get her on plane back home...! I mean, if she had eaten a tin of spam and written down her temp was 3454.9 degrees, that would suggest she wasn't compus mentus! But she JUST so happened to take the correct meds and write down a perfect number. What are the odds?
Will "lessons be learned" I wonder?
s3fella said:
Yep, a proper whitewash.
Strange that despite not being compus mentus from the disease, she knew that paracetamol would help lower her temp
She's a nurse, unless she was actually barking at the moon, groaning about brains, and trying to eat people, of course she knew that paracetamol would help to reduce a fever.Strange that despite not being compus mentus from the disease, she knew that paracetamol would help lower her temp
Oh, and it's "compos mentis" BTW.
s3fella said:
Yep, a proper whitewash.
Strange that despite not being compus mentus from the disease, she knew that paracetamol would help lower her temp and that recording a temp of 37.5 not the 38+ that she read would get her on plane back home...! I mean, if she had eaten a tin of spam and written down her temp was 3454.9 degrees, that would suggest she wasn't compus mentus! But she JUST so happened to take the correct meds and write down a perfect number. What are the odds?
Will "lessons be learned" I wonder?
It wasn't her that wrote the number down, her temperature was taken by one health screening person and written down by another one. One of the arguments that her lawyer used was at that point she was already effectively a patient, the subject of healthcare not the provider of it. Strange that despite not being compus mentus from the disease, she knew that paracetamol would help lower her temp and that recording a temp of 37.5 not the 38+ that she read would get her on plane back home...! I mean, if she had eaten a tin of spam and written down her temp was 3454.9 degrees, that would suggest she wasn't compus mentus! But she JUST so happened to take the correct meds and write down a perfect number. What are the odds?
Will "lessons be learned" I wonder?
You could reduce most sensible adults to the level of a 6 year old and they'd still think to take paracetamol if they were feeling poorly.
The outcry over disciplining her would have been enormous.
The NMC would have been smeared.
They do excellent work, and are in the process of revalidation of all their members with a new code of conduct.
A disciplinary hearing with a harsh outcome would be quite negative.
They're looking at the bigger picture I've no doubt.
Nurses tend to be very good in sorting their professional standards, and will deal with this totally in house and in private
The Nurse involved will have had the carpeting and in no doubt of her failures.
They're dealing with it, and I've no doubt they'll do it properly.
I work with senior Nurses closely daily.
Professionally there standards are so structured
That's why they're so strong, and have a professionality I can only admire and aspire to.
As a group they will always do the right thing.
The NMC would have been smeared.
They do excellent work, and are in the process of revalidation of all their members with a new code of conduct.
A disciplinary hearing with a harsh outcome would be quite negative.
They're looking at the bigger picture I've no doubt.
Nurses tend to be very good in sorting their professional standards, and will deal with this totally in house and in private
The Nurse involved will have had the carpeting and in no doubt of her failures.
They're dealing with it, and I've no doubt they'll do it properly.
I work with senior Nurses closely daily.
Professionally there standards are so structured
That's why they're so strong, and have a professionality I can only admire and aspire to.
As a group they will always do the right thing.
"UK Ebola nurse in 'stable' condition in hospital"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west...
eldar said:
"UK Ebola nurse in 'stable' condition in hospital"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west...
Holy crap this doesnt seem to just be 'fixed' in people does it!http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west...
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