ebola, anyone else mildly terrified?
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guardian said:
A doctor acted dishonestly when she lied to investigators about the dangerously high temperature of a nurse who went on to develop Ebola, a tribunal has found.
Dr Hannah Ryan, who had been working in Sierra Leone during the west Africa Ebola outbreak of 2014, was one of the medics who assessed Pauline Cafferkey following the Scottish nurse’s return to the UK in December 2014.
Ryan did not raise the alarm when a colleague wrote down Cafferkey’s temperature as 1C lower than it actually was during a “chaotic” screening process at Heathrow airport on 28 December 2014, a medical practitioners tribunal found on Monday.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/mar/27/doctor-was-dishonest-in-screening-nurse-who-had-ebola-tribunal-findsDr Hannah Ryan, who had been working in Sierra Leone during the west Africa Ebola outbreak of 2014, was one of the medics who assessed Pauline Cafferkey following the Scottish nurse’s return to the UK in December 2014.
Ryan did not raise the alarm when a colleague wrote down Cafferkey’s temperature as 1C lower than it actually was during a “chaotic” screening process at Heathrow airport on 28 December 2014, a medical practitioners tribunal found on Monday.
FlyingMeeces said:
stevep944 said:
They should both be struck off.
They came back knowing full well one was ill with Ebola, falsified temperature readings to get back in, without giving a toss for the risk they were creating for the rest of the population.
Now they have the cheek to blame the system.
Disgrace.
Do you really think someone who had seen first-hand the effects of ebola would willingly expose the population of the UK - including their family - to it?They came back knowing full well one was ill with Ebola, falsified temperature readings to get back in, without giving a toss for the risk they were creating for the rest of the population.
Now they have the cheek to blame the system.
Disgrace.
Every self respecting healthcare professional would sooner top themselves than risk that.
A very unsympathetic fitness to practice panel nonetheless found that Pauline Cafferkey was in no way at fault and was already unwell enough to be unable to basically think straight by the time she reached the airport.
They highlighted that there were problems with the system for screening arrivals. And there were - or do you think it's okay to leave arriving, exhausted medics to do their own screening, unguided and unsupervised?
trickywoo said:
In light of the tribunal findings your post is cringe worthy.
Mmm, yeah. I can't quite figure out what must have actually gone on: they decided this doctor (not the nurses, about whom I was writing) did not intend to conceal the high temperature, but that she did later then try to keep herself from being implicated in it all? I can't work out the motives - other than stupid panicked decisions.
The Guardian article is weirdly un-damning. It all feels off kilter - they're obviously reporting it quite sympathetically, but it reads like the tribunal itself was also quite sympathetic, in a very odd contrast to the nursing one that wanted to string Cafferkey up last year.
Seems professional standards and a basic concern for the wider safety of the public went out of the window because she wanted her friend (a friendship formed in extreme circumstances, as the tribunal was keen to highlight) to get home as quickly as possible and not miss her connecting flight.
You could read all sorts into this but there seems to have been some sort of feeling of personal entitlement gained from their volunteering which morally allowed them at the time to behave as they did.
Its an age old story and one which you (hopefully historically now) used to see a lot in aircraft crashes where the senior officer would make a bizarre decision or series of decisions which were never questioned by the junior officer(s) leading to disaster. The senior officer was bestowed unquestioned authority and the people involved in this sorry case seem to have had the same feeling.
Its something systems and procedures need to be designed to address and they simply weren't in this case. You can't rely on people to do the correct thing when what they consider to be just (at the time) can so easily be different from correct.
You could read all sorts into this but there seems to have been some sort of feeling of personal entitlement gained from their volunteering which morally allowed them at the time to behave as they did.
Its an age old story and one which you (hopefully historically now) used to see a lot in aircraft crashes where the senior officer would make a bizarre decision or series of decisions which were never questioned by the junior officer(s) leading to disaster. The senior officer was bestowed unquestioned authority and the people involved in this sorry case seem to have had the same feeling.
Its something systems and procedures need to be designed to address and they simply weren't in this case. You can't rely on people to do the correct thing when what they consider to be just (at the time) can so easily be different from correct.
BlackLabel said:
Oh dear.Did they have helmets on? Safety first and all of that.
Looks like the latest outbreak is showing no signs of slowing as people are killing the doctors treating them
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/201...
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/201...
untakenname said:
Looks like the latest outbreak is showing no signs of slowing as people are killing the doctors treating them
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/201...
And getting worse.https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/201...
New Ebola outbreak in DRC is 'truly frightening', says Wellcome Trust director https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-48615667
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