Israeli

[trashbat]

Funkycoldribena said:

Yep I'm a racist and a bigot.That's what you want to hear isn't it?

Not really. Who benefits from that? I'd much prefer it if you considered why you've apparently picked sides, ditched empathy and tarred a population with the same brush based on the actions of individuals. Silently, for all I care.

Are you looking to be held accountable for the worst acts of Britain and Britons? Of course not. Nor should we consider the population of Israel to be a single entity.

[Mr Snap]

Mrr T said:

So far the Israeli score is 200 out of a population of 1,800,000 in Gaza. Its going to take them a very very long time.

Score?

Not only do you have the numbers wrong by a factor of two, but you equate the deaths of non-combatants and children to some kind of point scoring game?

Add callousness to hypocrisy.

[Qwert1e]

supersingle said:

It's worth bearing in mind that Israel could adequately subdue Hamas using only airstrikes.

The reason for the ground operation is to more accurately target the terrorists with fewer innocent deaths. The cost is being paid in Israeli soldiers lives'.

More to the point, it's instructive to compare the conflict in Israel with the conflict in Northern Ireland.

• Does the conflict in Northern Ireland appear to be broadly resolved? Yes

• Was the conflict resolved by shelling civilians? No.

What Israel singularly fails to understand, or chooses to ignore, is that standing in a pub and regularly punching the small bloke in the face will never make him like you. While everyone else in the pub will immediately recognise you for what you are.

[audidoody]

Art0ir said:

Or the Israeli government's intention to ethnically cleanse Palestine and take what is left of the land?

OK. Watch this

T-H-E-R-E I-S N-O C-O-U-N-T-R-Y C-A-L-L-E-D P-A-L-E-S-T-I-N-E

Never has been.

The West Bank (to which you may be referring) was part of Jordan, a country artificially created from the post-World War I division of West Asia by Britain and France.

In 1946, Jordan became an independent sovereign state known as the Hashemite Kingdom of Transjordan. It captured the West Bank and East Jerusalem from the Israelis in 1948 who won it back in 1967.

King Hussein was so concerned with the plight of the Palestinians he threw them out of Jordan in September 1970 after winning a civil war against the Palestinian Liberation Organisation (have you heard the expression 'Black September'?)

[Funkycoldribena]

trashbat said:

ot really. Who benefits from that? I'd much prefer it if you considered why you've apparently picked sides, ditched empathy and tarred a population with the same brush based on the actions of individuals. Silently, for all I care.

Are you looking to be held accountable for the worst acts of Britain and Britons? Of course not. Nor should we consider the population of Israel to be a single entity.

I will never support the Palestinians owing to the fact of voting in a barbaric organisation, the celebrating of 9/11,the ripping apart of soldiers in ramallah,indoctrination of their children,etc.etc.
Now come back with what I know you're going to say....

[Funkycoldribena]

Art0ir said:

Mrr T said:

I agree completely.

Perhaps you can go and ask Hamas about their demands to destroy Israel and kill all the Jews.

Or the Israeli government's intention to ethnically cleanse Palestine and take what is left of the land?

And don't you think Israel could of done that long ago if they wanted to?

[trashbat]

Funkycoldribena said:

I will never support the Palestinians owing to the fact of voting in a barbaric organisation, the celebrating of 9/11,the ripping apart of soldiers in ramallah,indoctrination of their children,etc.etc.
Now come back with what I know you're going to say....

Meh. No point talking into empty space. Perhaps one day you can find the sliver of humanity required to look at the people of Gaza as actual people and not some political compilation tape.

[Funkycoldribena]

trashbat said:

eh. No point talking into empty space. Perhaps one day you can find the sliver of humanity required to look at the people of Gaza as actual people and not some political compilation tape.

I have no malice towards you it's just we're poles apart and always will be, let's just leave it at that.

[FredClogs]

audidoody said:

OK. Watch this

T-H-E-R-E I-S N-O C-O-U-N-T-R-Y C-A-L-L-E-D P-A-L-E-S-T-I-N-E

Never has been.

This is an oft repeated non sense trotted out by people who could educate themselves in a matter of seconds if they wished to... Such an odd thing to do, display ones ignorance in such a manner... Perhaps they believe what they say?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine

[Mr Snap]

Funkycoldribena said:

And don't you think Israel could of done that long ago if they wanted to?

Yes, they could have done it quicker but more people might have noticed. Israel's current policies on the WB are bringing about ethnic cleansing at a pace tolerated by the western powers. The Palestinians, unfortunately, find the pace somewhat less tolerable.

How would you feel if a bloke with a machine gun threw stones at your children? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1ovdA1VZ-c

Or what do you think about the way Israeli border guards treat innocent people going about their business? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QorJMPtz1Fw

If the Israelis treated the peaceful Palestinians (as opposed to Hamas combatants) like human beings and respected their rights, most of the problems would vanish.

[Scuffers]

Mr Snap said:

How would you feel if a bloke with a machine gun threw stones at your children? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1ovdA1VZ-c

no argument, they are scum

we have such scum in this country too, does not make us all scum though does it?

[raftom]

Funkycoldribena said:

I will never support the Palestinians owing to the fact of voting in a barbaric organisation

There are 55% of them that voted against Hamas.

[Countdown]

Scuffers said:

actually, wrong, there were two before the ground troops when it, both from rocket attacks.

now, just try and imagine how many there would have been without iron dome?

Look people, for all your hand wringing, the simple way to stop this is for Hamas to stop firing rockets.

yes, it really is that simple.

I know this probably does not fit with your sense of injustice etc, but it's the only way it will end.

Do you think Israel will look for a genuine peace agreement if Hamas were to stop today?

Because, based on what the leadership of Israel has said, it's highly unlikely.

[S 8 GRN]

FredClogs said:

audidoody said:

OK. Watch this

T-H-E-R-E I-S N-O C-O-U-N-T-R-Y C-A-L-L-E-D P-A-L-E-S-T-I-N-E

Never has been.

This is an oft repeated non sense trotted out by people who could educate themselves in a matter of seconds if they wished to... Such an odd thing to do, display ones ignorance in such a manner... Perhaps they believe what they say?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine

Read it and nope there still isn't a country called Palestine.

[Countdown]

Scuffers said:

Mr Snap said:

How would you feel if a bloke with a machine gun threw stones at your children? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1ovdA1VZ-c

no argument, they are scum

we have such scum in this country too, does not make us all scum though does it?

Well, it would if the Govt and a large proportion of the population supported the stone-throwing scum with machine guns, tanks, and apache helicopters.

We don't accept scummy behaviour from extremists. We certainly don't back it up with State support.

[Mastodon2]

Bizarre justification from a Palestinian terrorism advocate on C4, saying that Hamas don't want to kill anyone, which is why they are firing rockets into Israel. If they're not trying to kill people, why are filming themselves firing rockets at buildings, or emerging from tunnels to shoot at people in Israel? They keep goading Israel, and they are getting pounded. They must like seeing civilians getting killed, and the Gaza strip turned into even more of a dump than it already is.

[anonymous-user]

S 8 GRN said:

FredClogs said:

audidoody said:

OK. Watch this

T-H-E-R-E I-S N-O C-O-U-N-T-R-Y C-A-L-L-E-D P-A-L-E-S-T-I-N-E

Never has been.

This is an oft repeated non sense trotted out by people who could educate themselves in a matter of seconds if they wished to... Such an odd thing to do, display ones ignorance in such a manner... Perhaps they believe what they say?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine

Read it and nope there still isn't a country called Palestine.

I'm guessing you're an Israeli? You certainly show the same trait of obstinate stupidity.

[S 8 GRN]

REALIST123 said:

S 8 GRN said:

FredClogs said:

audidoody said:

OK. Watch this

T-H-E-R-E I-S N-O C-O-U-N-T-R-Y C-A-L-L-E-D P-A-L-E-S-T-I-N-E

Never has been.

This is an oft repeated non sense trotted out by people who could educate themselves in a matter of seconds if they wished to... Such an odd thing to do, display ones ignorance in such a manner... Perhaps they believe what they say?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine

Read it and nope there still isn't a country called Palestine.

I'm guessing you're an Israeli? You certainly show the same trait of obstinate stupidity.

I'm guessing you work for the UN then? Oh and failed charm school?

[Mermaid]

An indecent proposal - give every citizen of the lands, a Million dollars (in instalments, of course) - if peace is maintained. Your neighbour gets in a fight you lose your million.

There has to be a solution/incentive.

[Muntu]

Mermaid said:

There has to be a solution/incentive.

Stop firing rockets into Israel. If you do, the IDF won't be eventually obliged to respond, and peace will break out