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supersingle said:
league67 said:
supersingle said:
league67 said:
supersingle said:
The Palestinians love death more than the Jews love life.
So by executing more than 1200 people, IDF is actually doing them a favour? Those ungrateful Palestinians. They get what they love and still bh about it.Even by your exceptionally low standards, that's beyond stupid.
Israel is defending itself as best it can. Hamas is attacking Israel and is trying to lose as many Palestinian civilians as it can in order to further its cause. The unfortunate Palestinians are caught up in the death cult and even those with the sense to stop the hate are powerless to act. Witness Hamas' recent slaughter of 30 Palestinian 'traitors' it accused of spying for Israel.
You didn't say Hamas loves dead Palestinians. If you need a reminder look at the quote. 'Caught up in a death cult' - by that do you mean they are caught between their homes and shelters and they'll be bombed to oblivion wherever they turn.
Terrorist Hamas killed 30 'traitor' Palestinians. I've only found one link to that story, and that was by i24news, hardly objective source, but even if true, one terrorist organization kills 30, IDF kills over 1200. Do you need a calculator? Do you know how to use one?
I wonder if those 'unfortunate' Palestinians love death more if inflicted by Hamas or IDF?
Compared to some posters here, that Shaked bint could be mistaken for Ghandi.
I did not say the IDF are doing Palestinians a favour by killing them as you accuse me. I did say that Palestinians love death more than the Jews love life. That's a statement I will stand by. They are deeply brainwashed into a cult of death. It is very difficult for individuals within that culture to break free. I don't blame them as individuals, but I do blame the likes of Hamas who use the misfortune or the Palestinians to further their own gains. All from the safety of a hotel suite in Qatar. They are utter scum without a shred of humanity.
Do you have any comment on the story I linked to? 30 Palestinian 'traitors' executed by Hamas without trial. Do you have any explanation for those actions?
I said that IDF are doing Palestinians a favour. That's a logical conclusion from your dumbass premise. Let me walk you through it. I love go-karts. Friend bought a racing go-kart as a present for me. Hence he did me a favour. He provided something that I love. So far so good?
Palestinians love death, IDF provided that in spades. Hence, my conclusion that IDF is doing them a favour. Still there?
Generalizing that the whole nation/race/tribe love something, anything, is stupid, as is statement that they are all brainwashed.
I did comment on Hamas killing 30 Palestinians, if you read up quote you'll see it. I would appreciate link from a source that is not Times of Israel or i24news. You know something like AP, Reuters, BBC. That kind of thing.
I did say that organization that kills 30 civilians are terrorists. Now that we have that out of the way, how do you call organization that kills over 1200? Freedom fighters? Defensive force? The Incompetents? Utter scum without shred of humanity?
Or, is the catch-all of , 'we are not targeting civilians' enough for you to say 'ah that's ok then'. They'll investigate, and if they can't find any of myriad of excuses, they'll apologize. Because, y'know, killing people who are trying to find safety in the shelter is equivalent of bumping into someone and saying 'Oh, sorry'.
http://davidbyrne.com/gaza-and-the-loss-of-civiliz...
Edit: ack, beaten to the link. Good read though.
Edit: ack, beaten to the link. Good read though.
supersingle said:
The Palestinians love death more than the Jews love life.
I'd suggest the Palestinians fear death as much as the Jews but prefer to fight rather than accept being killed at the whim of the Israelis.When the British fought the Nazis it wasn't because we loved death more than they loved life.
Countdown said:
supersingle said:
The Palestinians love death more than the Jews love life.
I'd suggest the Palestinians fear death as much as the Jews but prefer to fight rather than accept being killed at the whim of the Israelis.@league67, I'm really not interested in talking to you if you can't refrain from the personal insults. It does your argument no good BTW.
The 30 'traitors' killed (and dragged through the streets if the photos are genuine) by Hamas story is from the Times of Israel, quoted from Palestinian news agencies. Sadly I don't speak Arabic so haven't quoted the original stories. Are they false?
The 30 'traitors' killed (and dragged through the streets if the photos are genuine) by Hamas story is from the Times of Israel, quoted from Palestinian news agencies. Sadly I don't speak Arabic so haven't quoted the original stories. Are they false?
slow_poke said:
http://davidbyrne.com/gaza-and-the-loss-of-civiliz...
Edit: ack, beaten to the link. Good read though.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/20/israe...Edit: ack, beaten to the link. Good read though.
article said:
The Israel Defence Forces (IDF) did not deny using the shells in the conflict. "As a rule, the IDF only employs weapons that have been determined lawful under international law, and in a manner which fully conforms with the laws of armed conflict," a spokesperson said in response to a request for specific comment on the deployment of flechettes.
B'Tselem, an Israeli human rights organisation, describes a flechette shell as "an anti-personnel weapon that is generally fired from a tank. The shell explodes in the air and releases thousands of metal darts 37.5mm in length, which disperse in a conical arch 300 metres long and about 90 metres wide".
Protecting civilian lives my arseB'Tselem, an Israeli human rights organisation, describes a flechette shell as "an anti-personnel weapon that is generally fired from a tank. The shell explodes in the air and releases thousands of metal darts 37.5mm in length, which disperse in a conical arch 300 metres long and about 90 metres wide".
supersingle said:
@league67, I'm really not interested in talking to you if you can't refrain from the personal insults. It does your argument no good BTW.
The 30 'traitors' killed (and dragged through the streets if the photos are genuine) by Hamas story is from the Times of Israel, quoted from Palestinian news agencies. Sadly I don't speak Arabic so haven't quoted the original stories. Are they false?
yes the rules of of these debates,is anything which proves/supports israel is either a lie or in the case of videos /photos,faked. The 30 'traitors' killed (and dragged through the streets if the photos are genuine) by Hamas story is from the Times of Israel, quoted from Palestinian news agencies. Sadly I don't speak Arabic so haven't quoted the original stories. Are they false?
thats the first rule ,suprised you didnt know it.
meanwhile the media ,dont show any hamas fighters/rockets etc,although the french reporter who did dare take a photo of a launcher being fired outsdie a school was kicked out by hamas.They utilise hamas figures ,and where there is conflicting versions use the following language..'the palestinians/hamas state ' i.e is fact,whilst israel 'alleges' .
league67 said:
I did say that organization that kills 30 civilians are terrorists. Now that we have that out of the way, how do you call organization that kills over 1200? Freedom fighters? Defensive force? The Incompetents? Utter scum without shred of humanity?
I do not know give me a clue. This must be a name you would be happy calling I assume, your grandparents
On the basis that in the second world war we and our allies, the US, killed over a million civilians most deliberately.
Countdown said:
supersingle said:
The Palestinians love death more than the Jews love life.
I'd suggest the Palestinians fear death as much as the Jews but prefer to fight rather than accept being killed at the whim of the Israelis.When the British fought the Nazis it wasn't because we loved death more than they loved life.
It goes way beyond armed resistance. It's a vile suicidal cult of hate and death which Hamas cultivate for their own ends.
supersingle said:
Countdown said:
supersingle said:
The Palestinians love death more than the Jews love life.
I'd suggest the Palestinians fear death as much as the Jews but prefer to fight rather than accept being killed at the whim of the Israelis.When the British fought the Nazis it wasn't because we loved death more than they loved life.
It goes way beyond armed resistance. It's a vile suicidal cult of hate and death which Hamas cultivate for their own ends.
Rick_1138 said:
JuniorD said:
Top read that, very informed.article said:
I was in Israel last year with Mary. Her sister works for UNWRA in Jerusalem. Showing us round were a Palestinian - Shadi, who is her sister's husband and a professional guide - and Oren Jacobovitch, an Israeli Jew, an ex-major from the IDF who left the service under a cloud for refusing to beat up Palestinians. Between the two of them we got to see some harrowing things - Palestinian houses hemmed in by wire mesh and boards to prevent settlers throwing st and piss and used sanitary towels at the inhabitants; Palestinian kids on their way to school being beaten by Israeli kids with baseball bats to parental applause and laughter; a whole village evicted and living in caves while three settler families moved onto their land; an Israeli settlement on top of a hill diverting its sewage directly down onto Palestinian farmland below; The Wall; the checkpoints… and all the endless daily humiliations. I kept thinking, "Do Americans really condone this? Do they really think this is OK? Or do they just not know about it?".
Is this really true about how the palestinians are treated?supersingle said:
How do you explain mothers celebrating the martyrdom of their suicide bomber sons? How about the Jew hatred in Palestinian children's TV? What about the Palestinian parades of young children dressed as suicide bombers?
It goes way beyond armed resistance. It's a vile suicidal cult of hate and death which Hamas cultivate for their own ends.
If I took over your house and kicked the living daylights out you; put a fence around so you can't move and invited others to live in the garden - how would you feel? How would you you bring your kids up in this situation?It goes way beyond armed resistance. It's a vile suicidal cult of hate and death which Hamas cultivate for their own ends.
And I'm describing it in best terms, the actual situation is a lot worse.
So why don't you educate yourself before making idiotic statements like that.
gabriele barbati @ gabriele barbati,
italian journalist tells it as it is .
'Out of #Gaza far from #Hamas retaliation: misfired rocket killed children yday in Shati. Witness: militants rushed and cleared debris'
2 other french journalists who dared to photograph a rocket launcher outside a school have been kicked out as well.
and here's a tweet of a palestinian mental patient chained to a fence by hamas at a targetted sight
http://punditfromanotherplanet.com/2014/07/30/a-so...
italian journalist tells it as it is .
'Out of #Gaza far from #Hamas retaliation: misfired rocket killed children yday in Shati. Witness: militants rushed and cleared debris'
2 other french journalists who dared to photograph a rocket launcher outside a school have been kicked out as well.
and here's a tweet of a palestinian mental patient chained to a fence by hamas at a targetted sight
http://punditfromanotherplanet.com/2014/07/30/a-so...
franki68 said:
gabriele barbati @ gabriele barbati,
italian journalist tells it as it is .
'Out of #Gaza far from #Hamas retaliation: misfired rocket killed children yday in Shati. Witness: militants rushed and cleared debris'
2 other french journalists who dared to photograph a rocket launcher outside a school have been kicked out as well.
and here's a tweet of a palestinian mental patient chained to a fence by hamas at a targetted sight
http://punditfromanotherplanet.com/2014/07/30/a-so...
Are we allowed to post links of random websites that may or may not be true? Thought that was a no-no.italian journalist tells it as it is .
'Out of #Gaza far from #Hamas retaliation: misfired rocket killed children yday in Shati. Witness: militants rushed and cleared debris'
2 other french journalists who dared to photograph a rocket launcher outside a school have been kicked out as well.
and here's a tweet of a palestinian mental patient chained to a fence by hamas at a targetted sight
http://punditfromanotherplanet.com/2014/07/30/a-so...
SR7492 said:
supersingle said:
How do you explain mothers celebrating the martyrdom of their suicide bomber sons? How about the Jew hatred in Palestinian children's TV? What about the Palestinian parades of young children dressed as suicide bombers?
It goes way beyond armed resistance. It's a vile suicidal cult of hate and death which Hamas cultivate for their own ends.
If I took over your house and kicked the living daylights out you; put a fence around so you can't move and invited others to live in the garden - how would you feel? How would you you bring your kids up in this situation?It goes way beyond armed resistance. It's a vile suicidal cult of hate and death which Hamas cultivate for their own ends.
And I'm describing it in best terms, the actual situation is a lot worse.
So why don't you educate yourself before making idiotic statements like that.
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