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s1962a said:
Jimbeaux said:
s1962a said:
Jimbeaux said:
anonymous said:
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And those supplying weaponry to Hamas, what about them??Think back to 9/11 - how many of the hijackers were Saudi and where did the funding come from? What kind of sanctions did Saudi get?
Mrr T said:
SR7492 said:
If I took over your house and kicked the living daylights out you; put a fence around so you can't move and invited others to live in the garden - how would you feel? How would you you bring your kids up in this situation?
And I'm describing it in best terms, the actual situation is a lot worse.
So why don't you educate yourself before making idiotic statements like that.
You forgot to mention he is lobbing missiles from the garden into your house.And I'm describing it in best terms, the actual situation is a lot worse.
So why don't you educate yourself before making idiotic statements like that.
Further if we are talking about Gaza all the settlements where demolished when Israel left.
Yes the settlements were bulldozed, flattened, and all the infrastructure like electricity supplies and sewers were also destroyed, They knew that housing in the WB is in short supply and people are desperate for new homes., but they realised that the Palestinans could never ever live in such nice modern houses, so they flattened them to allow the Palestinans to rebuild the houses from scratch. This was a nice caring gesture from the Israelis.
US condemns shelling of UN school in Gaza but restocks Israeli ammunition
I am sure the irony is not lost on Putin re Ukraine!
I am sure the irony is not lost on Putin re Ukraine!
Jimbeaux said:
s1962a said:
Jimbeaux said:
s1962a said:
Jimbeaux said:
anonymous said:
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And those supplying weaponry to Hamas, what about them??Think back to 9/11 - how many of the hijackers were Saudi and where did the funding come from? What kind of sanctions did Saudi get?
s1962a said:
There wouldn't need to be any weaponry if the palestinians have a viable state with open borders and freedom to live their lives without outside interference.
I get your point but I think both IDF and Hamas need to be starved of weapons. Perhaps blockade monitored by UN to try to ensure it isn't punitive against all Palestinians.s1962a said:
Jimbeaux said:
s1962a said:
Jimbeaux said:
FredClogs said:
Israel will always receive the support and huge financial backing of the USA, this is abundantly clear.
As is the case with Hamas and a number of Arab/Persian states. Those 1,000s of rockets don't grow on trees, or in tunnels in this case.US just sold a shipment of arms recently to the IDF as well. Bit rich selling weapons that kill people, and then complaining their weapons are being used to kill children.
Who's gonna hold them to account exactly? Don't let the fact they own a big percentage of the US dollar get in the way.
anonymous said:
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My point (however simplistic) was more along the lines of the palestinians having some sort of normal life where they can focus on their kids education, having a career, making money, and just living their lives. Given time, what support would there be for Hamas, and thus conflict?s1962a said:
Jimbeaux said:
supersingle said:
Countdown said:
supersingle said:
The Palestinians love death more than the Jews love life.
I'd suggest the Palestinians fear death as much as the Jews but prefer to fight rather than accept being killed at the whim of the Israelis.When the British fought the Nazis it wasn't because we loved death more than they loved life.
It goes way beyond armed resistance. It's a vile suicidal cult of hate and death which Hamas cultivate for their own ends.
s1962a said:
Jimbeaux said:
s1962a said:
Jimbeaux said:
FredClogs said:
Israel will always receive the support and huge financial backing of the USA, this is abundantly clear.
As is the case with Hamas and a number of Arab/Persian states. Those 1,000s of rockets don't grow on trees, or in tunnels in this case.US just sold a shipment of arms recently to the IDF as well. Bit rich selling weapons that kill people, and then complaining their weapons are being used to kill children.
Who's gonna hold them to account exactly? Don't let the fact they own a big percentage of the US dollar get in the way.
Fotic said:
s1962a said:
Jimbeaux said:
s1962a said:
Jimbeaux said:
FredClogs said:
Israel will always receive the support and huge financial backing of the USA, this is abundantly clear.
As is the case with Hamas and a number of Arab/Persian states. Those 1,000s of rockets don't grow on trees, or in tunnels in this case.US just sold a shipment of arms recently to the IDF as well. Bit rich selling weapons that kill people, and then complaining their weapons are being used to kill children.
Who's gonna hold them to account exactly? Don't let the fact they own a big percentage of the US dollar get in the way.
Jimbeaux said:
Fotic said:
s1962a said:
Jimbeaux said:
s1962a said:
Jimbeaux said:
FredClogs said:
Israel will always receive the support and huge financial backing of the USA, this is abundantly clear.
As is the case with Hamas and a number of Arab/Persian states. Those 1,000s of rockets don't grow on trees, or in tunnels in this case.US just sold a shipment of arms recently to the IDF as well. Bit rich selling weapons that kill people, and then complaining their weapons are being used to kill children.
Who's gonna hold them to account exactly? Don't let the fact they own a big percentage of the US dollar get in the way.
s1962a said:
Jimbeaux said:
Fotic said:
s1962a said:
Jimbeaux said:
s1962a said:
Jimbeaux said:
FredClogs said:
Israel will always receive the support and huge financial backing of the USA, this is abundantly clear.
As is the case with Hamas and a number of Arab/Persian states. Those 1,000s of rockets don't grow on trees, or in tunnels in this case.US just sold a shipment of arms recently to the IDF as well. Bit rich selling weapons that kill people, and then complaining their weapons are being used to kill children.
Who's gonna hold them to account exactly? Don't let the fact they own a big percentage of the US dollar get in the way.
http://time.com/#3033681/hamas-gaza-palestine-isra...
Have you got how much of "a large percent of the US Dollar" the Saudis own worked up yet?
Edited by Jimbeaux on Thursday 31st July 15:23
andymadmak said:
If this conflict is about Hamas wanting an end to the blockade, can I ask whether Hamas also fires rockets into Egypt? Genuine question.
I've already asked that question, but was informed by Countdown that as Hamas only had a limited number of missiles, they were using them on Israel.I did ask when this limited supply would run out but got no response.
otolith said:
FredClogs said:
Israel will always receive the support and huge financial backing of the USA, this is abundantly clear.
Which, for those who like to pick sides in this issue, is enough reason for many to choose the opposite one. Which is ironic, given the historical "enemy of my enemy" doctrine of the US foreign policy they dislike so much.
FredClogs said:
otolith said:
FredClogs said:
Israel will always receive the support and huge financial backing of the USA, this is abundantly clear.
Which, for those who like to pick sides in this issue, is enough reason for many to choose the opposite one. Which is ironic, given the historical "enemy of my enemy" doctrine of the US foreign policy they dislike so much.
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