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league67 said:
I'm still waiting for an answer; how can one be ashamed of a country? Feel free to agree at any time that it was a dumbass thing to type to start with.
I'm still waiting for you to actually commit to a rational debate!so far, ISFAICT, you're a die hard Hamas supporter for whom they can do no wrong, and anything the IDF or Israel do is an act of terrorism.
or are you just misunderstood?
league67 said:
avinalarf said:
Alpinestars said:
Who gave Britain or the UN the right to divide land and give up half of it to immigrants? It's naive to believe just because the UN RECOMMENDED a course of action, it legitimises it. The fact is Israel was created by Zionist terrorism. No ifs no buts.
On a side note, the people of Palestine should not have to pay for or accommodate Jews who were persecuted. That's just solving a problem for Jews and putting the Palestinians in their (former) shoes.
Quite right.On a side note, the people of Palestine should not have to pay for or accommodate Jews who were persecuted. That's just solving a problem for Jews and putting the Palestinians in their (former) shoes.
So whilst your at it why not talk to us about......
Northern Ireland.......Cyprus....Pakistan .....Bangladesh...Most artificially created African Countries,disputed Islands off the coast of Japan, most recently the Crimea....IS invasion of Iraq and Syria.......The list goes on......and on....and on.
I'm still waiting for an answer; how can one be ashamed of a country? Feel free to agree at any time that it was a dumbass thing to type to start with.
Countdown said:
avinalarf said:
Quite right.
So whilst your at it why not talk to us about......
Northern Ireland.......Cyprus....Pakistan .....Bangladesh...Most artificially created African Countries,disputed Islands off the coast of Japan, most recently the Crimea....IS invasion of Iraq and Syria.......The list goes on......and on....and on.
With regards to Pakistan & Bangladesh,(and possibly Cyprus) it has to be said that they were created as a result of the wishes of the "domestic" populations of both countries wanting the right of self-determination. Even India was created as a result of the indigenous population not wanting to be ruled by an occupation power.So whilst your at it why not talk to us about......
Northern Ireland.......Cyprus....Pakistan .....Bangladesh...Most artificially created African Countries,disputed Islands off the coast of Japan, most recently the Crimea....IS invasion of Iraq and Syria.......The list goes on......and on....and on.
With regards to Cyprus - the only reason the Turkish Army is able to "rule" is because of the consent of the majority of the population.
avinalarf said:
Why is it that you cannot grasp the idea that Israel has different governments some are more hawkish than others,depending on what's going on,either home politics or international politics
Hey, Mr Sanctimonious, I'm the guy posting up links to the current Israeli press on an almost daily basis. I think I have some idea that parties change in Israel, and that views and ideas change. You're the guy who posted up this junk
avinalarf said:
Try......... rounding up every man,woman and child,forcing them into cattle wagons where many died of starvation,or suffocation in their own ste.
Then separating the families,men one way,their wives and children another,
Then shooting those too old or weak to work.
Maybe bayonetting the odd baby you fancied murdering .
Then herding these traumatised people into unheated,unsanitary wooden sheds.
Then starving them whilst working them 12 hours a day in sub human conditions.
Then how about gassing them or performing foul inhuman medical experiments on them.
And then you fecking keyboard warriors pontificating expect the children of those people to take more ste from whoever.
You must be fecking joking.
Then separating the families,men one way,their wives and children another,
Then shooting those too old or weak to work.
Maybe bayonetting the odd baby you fancied murdering .
Then herding these traumatised people into unheated,unsanitary wooden sheds.
Then starving them whilst working them 12 hours a day in sub human conditions.
Then how about gassing them or performing foul inhuman medical experiments on them.
And then you fecking keyboard warriors pontificating expect the children of those people to take more ste from whoever.
You must be fecking joking.
avinalarf said:
Many people judge Israel on standards they do not apply to any other country,and do not have the common sense to take a World view of the problem.
A world view? Let me ask again: "Did Israel ever keep to it? Would they now accept its re-adoption?" And add, can you list the UN conventions that Israel have broken?
Scuffers said:
league67 said:
I'm still waiting for an answer; how can one be ashamed of a country? Feel free to agree at any time that it was a dumbass thing to type to start with.
I'm still waiting for you to actually commit to a rational debate!so far, ISFAICT, you're a die hard Hamas supporter for whom they can do no wrong, and anything the IDF or Israel do is an act of terrorism.
or are you just misunderstood?
league67 said:
Hamas are terrorists and murderous twunts.
And yet I'm 'die hard Hamas supporter'. Nobody else can 'misunderstand' 'terrorists and murderous twunts' for 'die hard supporter'. I think you are just broken beyond help. I understand that for people like you, between complete denial of reality, you always need to find someone to blame, for the fiasco that you've turned out to be. That's why so many people feel sorry for you. Grumfutock said:
So that makes it ok then?
Even if it doesn't make it ok, and let's say the situations cited are also henious acts, does that make the Israeli terrorism ok? It's irrelevant. Now take your proverbial ball away again and go home.
Edited by Alpinestars on Saturday 23 August 17:08
Grumfutock said:
Mojocvh said:
Righty ho, I would like to invite you to show us ALL where anyone has posted on here "defending" the terrorist actions of Hamas.
What you sinlemindedly fail to realise is that people UNDERSTAND, note UNDERSTAND, not SUPPORT, why they attack.
Once you grasp that concept then the thread may actually progress away from a little children's shouting match.
But I'm not holding my breath on the above.
And yet they don't CONDEMN, note CONDEMN, not JUSTIFY, when they do! What you sinlemindedly fail to realise is that people UNDERSTAND, note UNDERSTAND, not SUPPORT, why they attack.
Once you grasp that concept then the thread may actually progress away from a little children's shouting match.
But I'm not holding my breath on the above.
Fine.
Alpinestars said:
Grumfutock said:
So that makes it ok then?
Even if it doesn't make it ok, and let's say the situations cited are also henious acts, does that make the Israeli terrorism ok? It's irrelavent. Now take your proverbial ball away again and go home.
league67 said:
Scuffers said:
league67 said:
I'm still waiting for an answer; how can one be ashamed of a country? Feel free to agree at any time that it was a dumbass thing to type to start with.
I'm still waiting for you to actually commit to a rational debate!so far, ISFAICT, you're a die hard Hamas supporter for whom they can do no wrong, and anything the IDF or Israel do is an act of terrorism.
or are you just misunderstood?
league67 said:
Hamas are terrorists and murderous twunts.
And yet I'm 'die hard Hamas supporter'. Nobody else can 'misunderstand' 'terrorists and murderous twunts' for 'die hard supporter'. I think you are just broken beyond help. I understand that for people like you, between complete denial of reality, you always need to find someone to blame, for the fiasco that you've turned out to be. That's why so many people feel sorry for you. Please add me to your list of people being in complete denial.
I hope one day I might be like you and see the Israel/Palestine problem with the same objective mindset that you possess.
Until that day I shall,regrettably, be of the opinion that chances of peace have been lost because of the intransigence of both parities.
That both parties have sometimes acted with poor judgement and bad faith.
Oh woe is me to try and see both sides of the narrative.
Grumfutock said:
And again you jump in on a question that wasn't ask of you and try to provoke an argument. What is your problem?
It's a public forum in case you hadn't realised. Now take your latest statement to its logical conclusion, who the fk invited you to reply the first time you posted? Get the logic? Edited by Alpinestars on Saturday 23 August 17:13
Mojocvh said:
Grumfutock said:
Mojocvh said:
Righty ho, I would like to invite you to show us ALL where anyone has posted on here "defending" the terrorist actions of Hamas.
What you sinlemindedly fail to realise is that people UNDERSTAND, note UNDERSTAND, not SUPPORT, why they attack.
Once you grasp that concept then the thread may actually progress away from a little children's shouting match.
But I'm not holding my breath on the above.
And yet they don't CONDEMN, note CONDEMN, not JUSTIFY, when they do! What you sinlemindedly fail to realise is that people UNDERSTAND, note UNDERSTAND, not SUPPORT, why they attack.
Once you grasp that concept then the thread may actually progress away from a little children's shouting match.
But I'm not holding my breath on the above.
Fine.
Kindly point me in the direction of where you have said it???? Take your time? No rush.
Alpinestars said:
It's a public forum in case you hadn't realised. Now take that your latest statement to its logical conclusion, who the fk invited you to reply the first time you posted? Get the logic?
So it is a public forum? So why do you tell me or order me to leave? Get the logic?Grumfutock said:
So it is a public forum? So why do you tell me or order me to leave? Get the logic?
Nope. Your modus operandi is to pile in with a bunch of ill thought out comments and when the going gets too tough for you, you have a juvenile moment and threaten to leave. Just do it. No one gives a st. Seriously. Grumfutock said:
Mojocvh said:
Grumfutock said:
Mojocvh said:
Righty ho, I would like to invite you to show us ALL where anyone has posted on here "defending" the terrorist actions of Hamas.
What you sinlemindedly fail to realise is that people UNDERSTAND, note UNDERSTAND, not SUPPORT, why they attack.
Once you grasp that concept then the thread may actually progress away from a little children's shouting match.
But I'm not holding my breath on the above.
And yet they don't CONDEMN, note CONDEMN, not JUSTIFY, when they do! What you sinlemindedly fail to realise is that people UNDERSTAND, note UNDERSTAND, not SUPPORT, why they attack.
Once you grasp that concept then the thread may actually progress away from a little children's shouting match.
But I'm not holding my breath on the above.
Fine.
Kindly point me in the direction of where you have said it???? Take your time? No rush.
Just for posterity.
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