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Non-vertical drilling is certainly possible (but a rather expensive way of doing exploratory drilling, I'd think).
Here's the problem. Given the gas is there, would it belong (given a two state solution) to Israel or to Palestine? Could the pipeline be made secure? Would any sane oil company want to get involved?
I really don't know how much weight to give to the report -- I fell upon the rumours of gas off Gaza elsewhere, did a little sniffing, and found the article in the Guardian. Given the state of Israel's economy it may have more significance than you'd think.
In the meantime (as published elsewhere) I found this for Scuffers, Mrr T. Grum, et al.
Here's the problem. Given the gas is there, would it belong (given a two state solution) to Israel or to Palestine? Could the pipeline be made secure? Would any sane oil company want to get involved?
I really don't know how much weight to give to the report -- I fell upon the rumours of gas off Gaza elsewhere, did a little sniffing, and found the article in the Guardian. Given the state of Israel's economy it may have more significance than you'd think.
In the meantime (as published elsewhere) I found this for Scuffers, Mrr T. Grum, et al.
Scuffers said:
don't be a dipstck
IF Gaza was sitting on oil or gas, just how hard would it be to tap into these without touching Gaza soil?
think about it, Gaza is not that big, ever heard of horizontal drilling?
I've never heard of horizontal drlling from "onshore" to "offshore". Have you?IF Gaza was sitting on oil or gas, just how hard would it be to tap into these without touching Gaza soil?
think about it, Gaza is not that big, ever heard of horizontal drilling?
It would seem far safer, and much more cost-effective, to have conventional drilling in place. Looking at the article, the economics seem to stack up for the Israelis, it's just the political factors that are causing the problem.
Scuffers said:
You lot don't get out much then...
You might want t read the comments on the link....
I've had flu. Only been out of the house to briefly attend a Christening/Baptism party and help small Romani girl with her homework (on Adolf Hitler, ferchrissakes!). Need to get back to fix T5. You might want t read the comments on the link....
But all the reviews (and I don't usually read You Tube reviews because they seem to be written by illiterate psychopaths) are positive. Is this a first?
In the meantime, Prof. Pappe has convinced me that a one state solution is the (only) way to go.
TheRealFingers99 said:
I see no obvious rebuttal of the article. Just the usual suspects at it, with a little knife fight by some minor league historians thrown in.
Agreed - but I thought (perhaps incorrectly) that Scuffers was suggesting that something in the "comments" bit conclusively disproved the assertions made in the Article.as usual, selective reading seems to be the norm here:
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/earth-insig...
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/earth-insig...
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/earth-insig...
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/earth-insig...
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/earth-insig...
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/earth-insig...
Scuffers said:
as usual, selective reading seems to be the norm here:
Or a selective view of history. While the "other" deposits almost certainly are bigger than the ones off Gaza:a. Who is to say that they are Israel's? (There is no internationally recognised border between Israel and Palestine).
b. De-facto, the ones off Gaza are Israel's anyway -- they are the occupying power.
Is the presence of gas off the coast of Gaza significant?
Who knows.
If it isn't, why not let the population of Gaza have it?
If it is, would Israel have attacked to get it (and push Hamas out)? I rather doubt the last point -- the Israelis don't need excuses, although sometimes a reason suits their purposes.
Half a mo'. We have a gas rich Israel, the 11th biggest arms exporter, 5th ranked nuclear super power. But they still can't get their economy straight and keep running to the US for cash?
More stupidity...
If you bothered to look, all the aid from the US is military, ie, missiles for the iron dome system (they are far from cheap) and they would not be required if it were not for the nutters.
Without the security concerns from the nutjobs, Israel is perfectly self sufficient.
If you bothered to look, all the aid from the US is military, ie, missiles for the iron dome system (they are far from cheap) and they would not be required if it were not for the nutters.
Without the security concerns from the nutjobs, Israel is perfectly self sufficient.
Scuffers said:
More stupidity...
If you bothered to look, all the aid from the US is military, ie, missiles for the iron dome system (they are far from cheap) and they would not be required if it were not for the nutters.
Without the security concerns from the nutjobs, Israel is perfectly self sufficient.
And the money they wanted from the States to compensate for the demolition of the illegal settlements in Gaza (while planning further illegal settlements in the West Bank)? Compensation of $240,000 per house was mooted. If you bothered to look, all the aid from the US is military, ie, missiles for the iron dome system (they are far from cheap) and they would not be required if it were not for the nutters.
Without the security concerns from the nutjobs, Israel is perfectly self sufficient.
Much of this money is in the form of grants, which are always written off.
Israel generally makes money from weapons sales/weapons development. It has ordered 5 nuclear capable submarines from Germany at around $2 billion. It vastly out guns any of its neighbours.
Iron Dome is a technical marvel, but can only cope with low grade missiles. What next? The IDF has already stated that it can't deal with the next generation (which Hezbollah already have).
How long can the US continue to afford to pay?
Why do you think the "nutters" persist?
Stealing 1000 hectares of land now and then helps balance the books.
Or just take houses that don't belong to you...
http://972mag.com/settlers-take-over-7-e-jerusalem...
Or just take houses that don't belong to you...
http://972mag.com/settlers-take-over-7-e-jerusalem...
PA envoy: We’ll join ICC if no Israel pullout deadline
Is this why Abbas didn't join the ICC (International Criminal Court) earlier?
Is this why Abbas didn't join the ICC (International Criminal Court) earlier?
TheRealFingers99 said:
PA envoy: We’ll join ICC if no Israel pullout deadline
Is this why Abbas didn't join the ICC (International Criminal Court) earlier?
Is this why Abbas didn't join the ICC (International Criminal Court) earlier?
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