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Grumfutock said:
What the hell has that got to do with anything?
I can be racist to a Frenchman, Scotsman or even a Liverpudlian! Just because all 3 might be white and European means nothing.
If I'm white, English and Liverpudlian, and you're (say) white, English and a Manc, I don't see how. Care to explain? I can be racist to a Frenchman, Scotsman or even a Liverpudlian! Just because all 3 might be white and European means nothing.
Racism
The belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races:theories of racism
Prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one’s own race is superior.
TheRealFingers99 said:
Grumfutock said:
What the hell has that got to do with anything?
I can be racist to a Frenchman, Scotsman or even a Liverpudlian! Just because all 3 might be white and European means nothing.
If I'm white, English and Liverpudlian, and you're (say) white, English and a Manc, I don't see how. Care to explain? I can be racist to a Frenchman, Scotsman or even a Liverpudlian! Just because all 3 might be white and European means nothing.
Racism
The belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races:theories of racism
Prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one’s own race is superior.
Kindly explain where this differs from the Egyptians/Palestinians. At least France and England are on the same bloody continent.
Grumfutock said:
One could. However if one was kicked out by nation A, one would tend to have a loathing of that nation. If then nation B gave one sanctuary and an opportunity for one to start again, only to then blow up everything one had re-built and gained for the 2nd time, then personally one would have a burning hatred for nation B!
Agreed - as well as Nation A!
Grumfutock said:
If you are white and French and I am white and English then very easily! Are we not both European? Are we not both of Celtic origin?
Kindly explain where this differs from the Egyptians/Palestinians. At least France and England are on the same bloody continent.
Where it differs, pretty radically, is that we're racially very distinct from the French. I'd suggest that we have much more Viking and Anglo and Saxon in us. Kindly explain where this differs from the Egyptians/Palestinians. At least France and England are on the same bloody continent.
In the case of Egypt and Palestine, the continent effectively forms one land mass -- it's a purely artificial construct. I note that you didn't answer the question, but I'd say that any Manc saying, for example "You Scouse b
d" isn't being racist. Slaav said:
Grumfutock said:
One could. However if one was kicked out by nation A, one would tend to have a loathing of that nation. If then nation B gave one sanctuary and an opportunity for one to start again, only to then blow up everything one had re-built and gained for the 2nd time, then personally one would have a burning hatred for nation B!
Agreed - as well as Nation A!TheRealFingers99 said:
Grumfutock said:
If you are white and French and I am white and English then very easily! Are we not both European? Are we not both of Celtic origin?
Kindly explain where this differs from the Egyptians/Palestinians. At least France and England are on the same bloody continent.
Where it differs, pretty radically, is that we're racially very distinct from the French. I'd suggest that we have much more Viking and Anglo and Saxon in us. Kindly explain where this differs from the Egyptians/Palestinians. At least France and England are on the same bloody continent.
In the case of Egypt and Palestine, the continent effectively forms one land mass -- it's a purely artificial construct. I note that you didn't answer the question, but I'd say that any Manc saying, for example "You Scouse b
d" isn't being racist. Grumfutock said:
Strange that as the genetic analysis suggests that a majority of them in Palestine, inclusive of Arab citizens of Israel, are descendants of Christians, Jews! So that shoots your little theory out of the water.
You don't half spout some gibberish. Since when was religion encoded in a person's genes???? Does my DNA suddenly change if I become a Christian/Jew/Jedi ? They probably share the same genes. It doesn't mean that those genes have any particular religious disposition.Grumfutock said:
As usual you haven't bothered to research anything and as usual you talk of things you know nothing about.
Pot, meet Kettle.Countdown said:
Grumfutock said:
Strange that as the genetic analysis suggests that a majority of them in Palestine, inclusive of Arab citizens of Israel, are descendants of Christians, Jews! So that shoots your little theory out of the water.
You don't half spout some gibberish. Since when was religion encoded in a person's genes???? Does my DNA suddenly change if I become a Christian/Jew/Jedi ? They probably share the same genes. It doesn't mean that those genes have any particular religious disposition. I will ask for a 3rd time. Have you ever been to the middle east? You seem to think you know a lot about the people and the geopolitics of the region but have you ever visited? Maybe you studied them at uni and have a degree on the subject?
Should I take your silence as an admission that you have no grounding in the area at all?
Edited by Grumfutock on Tuesday 2nd December 09:13
Grumfutock said:
Countdown said:
Grumfutock said:
Strange that as the genetic analysis suggests that a majority of them in Palestine, inclusive of Arab citizens of Israel, are descendants of Christians, Jews! So that shoots your little theory out of the water.
You don't half spout some gibberish. Since when was religion encoded in a person's genes???? Does my DNA suddenly change if I become a Christian/Jew/Jedi ? They probably share the same genes. It doesn't mean that those genes have any particular religious disposition. Grumfutock said:
genetic analysis suggests that a majority of them in Palestine, inclusive of Arab citizens of Israel, are descendants of Christians, Jews!
and in your second post...Grumfutock said:
Well I would suggest to you that historic Jewish DNA is different to historic Muslim DNA. Muslim being Arabic and Jewish not!
Could you make up your mind? Are palestinian genes the same as jewish ones (as they are descended from christians/jews) or are they different? Here's a thought. Given that both jews and palestinians are members of the tribe of Shem maybe, just maybe, they have similar genes and religion is irrelevant? You've posted a million times on this thread and yet you don't seem to know even the basic origins of both people
Grumfutock said:
I will ask for a 3rd time. Have you ever been to the middle east? You seem to think you know a lot about the people and the geopolitics of the region but have you ever visited? Maybe you studied them at uni and have a degree on the subject?
Should I take your silence as an admission that you have no grounding in the area at all?
You seem to enjoy dragging the thread off on irrelevant tangents. However, just to satisfy your curiosity, I have been to Morocco, Tunisia, Egypt, Jordan, Saudi, and most of the UAE countries at various times over the last 20 years. Immediate family members are working across the ME at the moment. My FiL worked in Libya for 20 years. That doesn't necessarily make me an expert However based on some of the stuff you've posted my guess is that even my 8 year old probably has a better understanding of the geopolitics of that region than you.Should I take your silence as an admission that you have no grounding in the area at all?
Countdown said:
You seem to enjoy dragging the thread off on irrelevant tangents. However, just to satisfy your curiosity, I have been to Morocco, Tunisia, Egypt, Jordan, Saudi, and most of the UAE countries at various times over the last 20 years. Immediate family members are working across the ME at the moment. My FiL worked in Libya for 20 years. That doesn't necessarily make me an expert However based on some of the stuff you've posted my guess is that even my 8 year old probably has a better understanding of the geopolitics of that region than you.
Your an idiot!
LukeGiles said:
Grumfutock said:
Er OK Mr contributed loads! Muppet.
This is not a joke. You do come across as a real textbook example of a 'tt'. I bet you even smell like fish and get wet when some dick bangs into you too.t?Well done, I hope you have a long career on here. I look forward to your next clever and well thought out response.
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