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TheRealFingers99

1,996 posts

128 months

Monday 29th December 2014
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Grumfutock said:
Doesn't need saying. An act of terrorism, by the very nature of it being an act of terrorism, is automatically condemned by any sane person. Does it need stating every time? No. But if you wish to go down that route also I note that the many, many, many examples of terrorism committed by Hamas that I have highlighted have not been condemned by yourself, nor for that matter the examples in my last post.
You seem to forget that I unreservedly condemned all acts of terrorism some time back. I've no need to do so again for every act, and I'm not going to respond to your faux outrage.

What say you to the acts of terrorism committed by Mosad outside of Israel?

Grumfutock

5,274 posts

165 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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I have no problem with it. We do similar things outside the UK with our own SF and Int services.

TheRealFingers99

1,996 posts

128 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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Grumfutock said:
I have no problem with it. We do similar things outside the UK with our own SF and Int services.
AFAIK, we didn't assassinate IRA members outside of the UK, let alone poison them!

cloggy

4,959 posts

209 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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TheRealFingers99 said:
AFAIK, we didn't assassinate IRA members outside of the UK, let alone poison them!
Gibraltar <cough>

Grumfutock

5,274 posts

165 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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TheRealFingers99 said:
Grumfutock said:
I have no problem with it. We do similar things outside the UK with our own SF and Int services.
AFAIK, we didn't assassinate IRA members outside of the UK, let alone poison them!
Really? You absolutely sure about that?

TheRealFingers99

1,996 posts

128 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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OK, but Gib is a British Overseas Territory.

Grumfutock said:
Really? You absolutely sure about that?
Not absolutely. But my name isn't Bondski, Shlomo Bondski.

Take Putin's attentat on Litvinenko: wasn't this an act of terrorism?

Grumfutock

5,274 posts

165 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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TheRealFingers99 said:
OK, but Gib is a British Overseas Territory.

Grumfutock said:
Really? You absolutely sure about that?
Not absolutely. But my name isn't Bondski, Shlomo Bondski.

Take Putin's attentat on Litvinenko: wasn't this an act of terrorism?
No it was an assassination, a murder.

From the Oxford dictionary: "The unofficial or unauthorized use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims".

Grumfutock

5,274 posts

165 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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What would you call the following:

Gib - 3 dead
Loughgall - 8 dead
Coagh - 3 dead
Clonoe - 6 dead
Iranian Embassy - 5 dead

I am genuinely intrigued.

TheRealFingers99

1,996 posts

128 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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Hmmm.

The only ones I know anything about are the Iranian Embassy (arguable either way about whose soil it was on, but clearly directly provoked) and Gib.

Either are arguable either way.

Grumfutock

5,274 posts

165 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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TheRealFingers99 said:
Hmmm.

The only ones I know anything about are the Iranian Embassy (arguable either way about whose soil it was on, but clearly directly provoked) and Gib.

Either are arguable either way.
Well the others were all Ops in NI were we ambushed various PIRA ASU's and killed them under an alleged shoot to kill policy.

TheRealFingers99

1,996 posts

128 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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Shoot to kill is open to some debate, but can't be classed as acts of terrorism, I'd think. Difficult even to call Bloody Sunday a terrorist act.

Grumfutock

5,274 posts

165 months

Wednesday 31st December 2014
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Well that went well:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-306397...

And this will bite them in the arse when they have people accused of war crimes, although I guess neither side will ever give them up so what is the point.

Edited by Grumfutock on Wednesday 31st December 19:29

SR7492

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495 posts

150 months

Sunday 4th January 2015
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Grumfutock

5,274 posts

165 months

Sunday 4th January 2015
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SR7492 said:
Wont matter as Israel has never signed up to the ICC. If the Palestinians get in the only people you will likely see getting extradited for crimes will be Hamas! ICC has no power over no members.

Pointless and pathetic attempt to up the tension just like the attempts at the UN. Sadly the Palestinian Authority seem to have forgotten that the are in a unity government with a terrorist group and are therefore equally answerable for their actions.

Countdown

39,817 posts

196 months

Sunday 4th January 2015
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SR7492 said:
What a strange reason for the Israelis to get upset about. Are they claiming this infringes their inalienable right to exist?

Grumfutock

5,274 posts

165 months

Sunday 4th January 2015
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Countdown said:
SR7492 said:
What a strange reason for the Israelis to get upset about. Are they claiming this infringes their inalienable right to exist?
Strange? So why are the Americans equally upset? Questions their right to exist as well I guess! Or could it be that it is another one of the usual tricks by Abbas and Israel and the Americans can see that?

Countdown

39,817 posts

196 months

Sunday 4th January 2015
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Grumfutock said:
Countdown said:
SR7492 said:
What a strange reason for the Israelis to get upset about. Are they claiming this infringes their inalienable right to exist?
Strange? So why are the Americans equally upset? Questions their right to exist as well I guess! Or could it be that it is another one of the usual tricks by Abbas and Israel and the Americans can see that?
I've no idea (hence the question). I'm guessing the US are upset because the Israelis said "jump"

If you think this is a trick what is it meant to achieve?

Grumfutock

5,274 posts

165 months

Sunday 4th January 2015
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Countdown said:
I've no idea (hence the question). I'm guessing the US are upset because the Israelis said "jump"

If you think this is a trick what is it meant to achieve?
To keep them in the press. They are fighting for world sympathy with the Kurds, Syrian refugees and others in the region. Anything they can do to make news is good from their point of view.

audidoody

8,597 posts

256 months

Sunday 4th January 2015
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Countdown said:
What a strange reason for the Israelis to get upset about. Are they claiming this infringes their inalienable right to exist?
Imagine that. A country which is claiming an inalienable right to exist. Who would have thunk it?

Countdown

39,817 posts

196 months

Monday 5th January 2015
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audidoody said:
Imagine that. A country which is claiming an inalienable right to exist. Who would have thunk it?
Becomes a tad hypocritical when they deny others the same right, don't you think?