Israeli

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jonby said:

skyrover said:

Unfortunately Islam does not tolerate the existence of Israel.

Slight correction: Islam as it has been hijacked by some, does not tolerate the existence of Israel. If all those who identify as Muslim felt that way, Israel would most likely no longer exist

The Palestinians might not recognise the right of Israel to exist let alone tolerate it, but I'm not sure deep down that has a huge amount to do with religion.

Let's face it, most of the surrounding states, effectively all of which are Muslim, with just a couple of notable exceptions who do help fund the Palestinian cause, don't seem particularly supportive of their Palestinian Muslim brothers & sisters who at times seem to be treated even worse by the likes of Lebanon & Jordan than they do by Israel

I'm really not sure that's the case.

Yes, millions of muslims have done nothing to eradicate Israel, but I am sure if you actually polled them, most would agree with them being removed from the middle east.

The fact most do nothing about it does not indicate they don;t agree with the idea.

[Slaav]

Scuffers said:

I'm really not sure that's the case.

Yes, millions of muslims have done nothing to eradicate Israel, but I am sure if you actually polled them, most would agree with them being removed from the middle east.

The fact most do nothing about it does not indicate they don;t agree with the idea.

Playing Devil's advocate slightly here but agreeing with an idea (in principle) and feeling strongly enough for it to over ride common decency are world's apart????

[Eclassy]

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/10/eritrean-mis...

Dark skinned man shot after bis station attack for no reason other than the colour of his skin (anyone remember Jean Charles de Menezes?). He was then lynched by a mob and then shot some more.

Not surprised it hasnt been mentioned on here.

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Eclassy said:

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/10/eritrean-mis...

Dark skinned man shot after bis station attack for no reason other than the colour of his skin (anyone remember Jean Charles de Menezes?). He was then lynched by a mob and then shot some more.

Not surprised it hasnt been mentioned on here.

Why?

Shirt happens, he was in the wrong place at the wrlong time.

Very unfortunate but extremely understandable.

[Eclassy]

https://youtu.be/GwVG5_78G7ou

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Look at all those bad Islams beating up that innocent man.

[Eclassy]

Scuffers said:

Why?

Shirt happens, he was in the wrong place at the wrlong time.

Very unfortunate but extremely understandable.

What a plonker! Racist moron. It is always understandable when the victim is dark skinned.

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Eclassy said:

What a plonker! Racist moron. It is always understandable when the victim is dark skinned.

Sorry ?

What has race to do with anything?

Look, he was in the wrong place when your best buds the nutjob Palestinians launched another knife attack killing 2(?) Innocent Israel's

Yes, it's very sad, but in the content, very understandable.

[irocfan]

Eclassy said:

Scuffers said:

Why?

Shirt happens, he was in the wrong place at the wrlong time.

Very unfortunate but extremely understandable.

What a plonker! Racist moron. It is always understandable when the victim is dark skinned.

it appears that the guy that shot him initially (security guard) was also Eritrean so half your wacism theory is out of the window. That being said those that joined in in the lynching should be hunted down and prosecuted. This, unfortunately, is what terrorism does though - it makes people suspicious of strangers/foreigners etc and is (partly) why terrorists do what they do.

jonby said:

skyrover said:

Unfortunately Islam does not tolerate the existence of Israel.

Slight correction: Islam as it has been hijacked by some, does not tolerate the existence of Israel. If all those who identify as Muslim felt that way, Israel would most likely no longer exist

The Palestinians might not recognise the right of Israel to exist let alone tolerate it, but I'm not sure deep down that has a huge amount to do with religion.

Let's face it, most of the surrounding states, effectively all of which are Muslim, with just a couple of notable exceptions who do help fund the Palestinian cause, don't seem particularly supportive of their Palestinian Muslim brothers & sisters who at times seem to be treated even worse by the likes of Lebanon & Jordan than they do by Israel

IIRC for a long time the rest of the Arab world despised the Palestinians and wanted nothing to do with them - it's only a 'happy' circumstance where they are now everyone's favourite downtrodden people. As for 'if the Muslim world wanted to do away with Israel they could/would' - well they tried it several times and got their arses handed to them right royally and I rather suspect that they don't relish facing that again. I also suspect that given Iran's hatred of daesh that they are maybe not (in private!) quite as fanatical about wiping out Israel as like 'em or loathe 'em the Israelis are (weirdly) a stabilising force in the ME

[Eclassy]

irocfan said:

it appears that the guy that shot him initially (security guard) was also Eritrean so half your wacism theory is out of the window. That being said those that joined in in the lynching should be hunted down and prosecuted. This, unfortunately, is what terrorism does though - it makes people suspicious of strangers/foreigners etc and is (partly) why terrorists do what they do.

Another EDL card carrying member. There is no it appears in this story. Even Israeli national newspapers carried headlines such as 'just because of the colour of his skin'.

Why else would a man in a group of people fleeing an attack be singled out, shot, then beaten to death?

This is the video of when he was shot. He was fleeing like everyone else!

https://youtu.be/ey5lwJ-qtsU

The real attacker was Bedoiun and so was the guard who shot Haftom Zerhum. Please stop spreading lies.

[g4ry13]

Eclassy said:

https://youtu.be/GwVG5_78G7ou

(Graphic content)

Look at all those bad Islams beating up that innocent man.

I assume you've posted the stabbings and cars driving onto pavements too for fairness? I can direct you to those if you need some help.

In that video (despite them thinking he was involved) there were still people trying to protect him from the crowd.

[irocfan]

Eclassy said:

irocfan said:

it appears that the guy that shot him initially (security guard) was also Eritrean so half your wacism theory is out of the window. That being said those that joined in in the lynching should be hunted down and prosecuted. This, unfortunately, is what terrorism does though - it makes people suspicious of strangers/foreigners etc and is (partly) why terrorists do what they do.

Another EDL card carrying member. There is no it appears in this story. Even Israeli national newspapers carried headlines such as 'just because of the colour of his skin'.

Why else would a man in a group of people fleeing an attack be singled out, shot, then beaten to death?

This is the video of when he was shot. He was fleeing like everyone else!

https://youtu.be/ey5lwJ-qtsU

The real attacker was Bedoiun and so was the guard who shot Haftom Zerhum. Please stop spreading lies.

you really are a pathetic little st aren't you. You know nothing about me and my racial background. I read the article wherein it was stated that the security guard who shot him was Eritrean so the immediate cry of racism is not going to wash. Just because not every agrees with your view doesn't immediately make them racist so wind your scrawny little neck in

[No Bend]

Scuffers said:

Eclassy said:

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/10/eritrean-mis...

Dark skinned man shot after bis station attack for no reason other than the colour of his skin (anyone remember Jean Charles de Menezes?). He was then lynched by a mob and then shot some more.

Not surprised it hasnt been mentioned on here.

Why?

Shirt happens, he was in the wrong place at the wrlong time.

Very unfortunate but extremely understandable.

Simon, your lack of logic in this or blatant one sidedness towards this subject is appalling. It's disturbing to think there's people who think this way on the planet still.

[Funkycoldribena]

No Bend said:

Simon, your lack of logic in this or blatant one sidedness towards this subject is appalling. It's disturbing to think there's people who think this way on the planet still.

Are you on first name terms or extremely patronising?

[allnighter]

Funkycoldribena said:

No Bend said:

Simon, your lack of logic in this or blatant one sidedness towards this subject is appalling. It's disturbing to think there's people who think this way on the planet still.

Are you on first name terms or extremely patronising?

Noo he's neither, but he's right though!

[Funkycoldribena]

allnighter said:

oo he's neither, but he's right though!

Oh Barry,how wrong you are...

[jonby]

irocfan said:

Eclassy said:

Scuffers said:

Why?

Shirt happens, he was in the wrong place at the wrlong time.

Very unfortunate but extremely understandable.

What a plonker! Racist moron. It is always understandable when the victim is dark skinned.

it appears that the guy that shot him initially (security guard) was also Eritrean so half your wacism theory is out of the window. That being said those that joined in in the lynching should be hunted down and prosecuted. This, unfortunately, is what terrorism does though - it makes people suspicious of strangers/foreigners etc and is (partly) why terrorists do what they do.

jonby said:

skyrover said:

Unfortunately Islam does not tolerate the existence of Israel.

Slight correction: Islam as it has been hijacked by some, does not tolerate the existence of Israel. If all those who identify as Muslim felt that way, Israel would most likely no longer exist

The Palestinians might not recognise the right of Israel to exist let alone tolerate it, but I'm not sure deep down that has a huge amount to do with religion.

Let's face it, most of the surrounding states, effectively all of which are Muslim, with just a couple of notable exceptions who do help fund the Palestinian cause, don't seem particularly supportive of their Palestinian Muslim brothers & sisters who at times seem to be treated even worse by the likes of Lebanon & Jordan than they do by Israel

IIRC for a long time the rest of the Arab world despised the Palestinians and wanted nothing to do with them - it's only a 'happy' circumstance where they are now everyone's favourite downtrodden people. As for 'if the Muslim world wanted to do away with Israel they could/would' - well they tried it several times and got their arses handed to them right royally and I rather suspect that they don't relish facing that again. I also suspect that given Iran's hatred of daesh that they are maybe not (in private!) quite as fanatical about wiping out Israel as like 'em or loathe 'em the Israelis are (weirdly) a stabilising force in the ME

Of course they have tried, but if the whole Muslim world really did get together, on the basis of the post I was responding to which states 'Islam does not tolerate the existence of Israel', united with the aim of destroying Israel, they could do it if they wanted to. The reality is that for many Muslim countries, it's really not that high up on the list of priorities - let's face it, places like Dubai actually do plenty of business with Israeli companies despite not officially recognising it's existence, they just have to keep quiet about it. The point being that some Muslim countries are more pragmatic than dogmatic, especially in terms of what they practice as opposed to what they preach

Meanwhile when you come across the most radical Muslim views, it seems it's more about Sharia law & Islam taking over everything as part of world domination, rather than a singling out of Israel or Jews.

Surely the fact that the rest of the ME, by and large, seems to have no great interest in helping the Palestinians, indicates a 'lack of tolerance of the existence of Israel' is really just not that important to them

[irocfan]

well on the subject of Israel.... has Netanyahu lost the plot?

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/10/21/benjami...

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No Bend said:

Simon, your lack of logic in this or blatant one sidedness towards this subject is appalling. It's disturbing to think there's people who thijnk this way on the planet still.

logic?
Your going to have to explain what logic has to do with this?

[BlackLabel]

irocfan said:

well on the subject of Israel.... has Netanyahu lost the plot?

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/10/21/benjami...

Wow!

One would expect such a comment from a David Duke or David Irving.

[irocfan]

BlackLabel said:

irocfan said:

well on the subject of Israel.... has Netanyahu lost the plot?

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/10/21/benjami...

Wow!

One would expect such a comment from a David Duke or David Irving.

or even David Icke