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[Jimbeaux]

Funkycoldribena said:

There won't be peace as the sole aim is the destruction of Israel.
When you teach hatred in the schools, there's no hope.
The various factions have no peace between themselves let alone coming to any peaceful agreement with next door.
As I said before if you think anything less than Israel being pushed into the sea will bring peace then you are deluded.

And that is the point, spot on. Anyone who does not understand that is being misled.

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Slaav said:

Surely if the 'whole world' via the UN is against your actions and continued building settlements in land that is under debate, then shouldn't you look yourself in the mirror??

Hamas are undoubtedly baddies.... PLO etc seem a pretty unattractive bunch. Unfortunately, so do the Israelis driving forwards against the UN etc.

The Far Right in Israel seem to have absolutely no volume control and the same could be said by Klein and his fellow idiots in the US! Calling Obama a 'Jew hating antisemite' isn't helpful and I think we can all agree isn't progressing any rational argument. In fact, it is so counter productive that I question both the reporting (it is in the Guardian link above) and the motive. I won't question his sanity as he is a politician.....

I don't expect to see peace in my lifetime! Unfortunately!!!

Very true.

[skyrover]

Blib said:

I've no horse in this particular race, thank goodness. However, I've always wondered why Israel's Arab neighbours kept the poor fleeing Palestinians in miserable camps on the borders. Did they try to integrate them into their communities at all??

A good question considering Jordan absorbed roughly 50% of Palestine... why aren't the Palestinians petitioning the king for their land back?

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Jimbeaux said:

Funkycoldribena said:

There won't be peace as the sole aim is the destruction of Israel.
When you teach hatred in the schools, there's no hope.
The various factions have no peace between themselves let alone coming to any peaceful agreement with next door.
As I said before if you think anything less than Israel being pushed into the sea will bring peace then you are deluded.

And that is the point, spot on. Anyone who does not understand that is being misled.

What many people have said is that Israel's continuous expansion of the settlements, and evicting Arabs from East Jerusalem, is counter productive. If it was genuinely serious about peace it would have stopped a long time ago. Obama has pointed this out repeatedly 9as have other US presidents) but they must all be anti-semites

[Funkycoldribena]

Countdown said:

What many people have said is that Israel's continuous expansion of the settlements, and evicting Arabs from East Jerusalem, is counter productive. If it was genuinely serious about peace it would have stopped a long time ago. Obama has pointed this out repeatedly 9as have other US presidents) but they must all be anti-semites

And round and round it goes..
You say settlements, I say pontoons.

[968]

Jimbeaux said:

I believe it is true. Go lay back down with your stale lies.

As long as you believe it that's ok but I guess your messiah has ushered in the post truth age so you'll be right at home. History and facts actually disagree with your account, however.

[eddharris]

Muntu said:

Take it easy Crispin, you can give him a handjob when you visit him.
For now Steven Seagal has his own hispanic help for the rub jobs.

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eddharris said:

Muntu said:

Take it easy Crispin, you can give him a handjob when you visit him.
For now Steven Seagal has his own hispanic help for the rub jobs.

[psgcarey]

Jimbeaux said:

psgcarey said:

Jimbeaux said:

I believe it is true. Go lay back down with your stale lies.

Does this mean that you believe that, prior to 1949, the bit of land that is now Israel was a conveniently empty tract of land just waiting for humans to arrive?

That is apparently what the British thought; others then agreed. Next question.

No, we knew there were other people there already, we were deluded in thinking they would co-exist. The ethnic cleansing that was the bit you guys helped with, because a democratic country was doing it.

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Jimbeaux said:

Funkycoldribena said:

There won't be peace as the sole aim is the destruction of Israel.
When you teach hatred in the schools, there's no hope.
The various factions have no peace between themselves let alone coming to any peaceful agreement with next door.
As I said before if you think anything less than Israel being pushed into the sea will bring peace then you are deluded.

And that is the point, spot on. Anyone who does not understand that is being misled.

This is really the most important point. Throughout history Jews have been persecuted, and quite understandably there is nothing that Israel will not do to avoid another holocaust, and I can understand that.

However, having visited Tel Aviv numerous times I am continually shocked by the the number of young, well-educated, western dressed people I meet that would condone doing exactly the same to Arabs/Muslims as they have suffered to ensure they to survive, and by that I include genocide. If they thought they could get away with it, they would. It really is quite shocking to experience.
I can understand their fear at the thought of another holocaust at the hands of their neighbours, but they would do the same.

[anonymous-user]

combiharvey said:

what is Trumps position on Israel? or hasn't he made that up yet?

Of course he has, he knows the chief st stirrer in all this is Iran.

[anonymous-user]

Blib said:

However, I've always wondered why Israel's Arab neighbours kept the poor fleeing Palestinians in miserable camps on the borders.

Because being in camps they are doing what their masters in Iran and Syria want them to do to get the sympathy vote but fortunately the incoming American government can see through this.

[Jimbeaux]

Countdown said:

Jimbeaux said:

Funkycoldribena said:

There won't be peace as the sole aim is the destruction of Israel.
When you teach hatred in the schools, there's no hope.
The various factions have no peace between themselves let alone coming to any peaceful agreement with next door.
As I said before if you think anything less than Israel being pushed into the sea will bring peace then you are deluded.

And that is the point, spot on. Anyone who does not understand that is being misled.

What many people have said is that Israel's continuous expansion of the settlements, and evicting Arabs from East Jerusalem, is counter productive. If it was genuinely serious about peace it would have stopped a long time ago. Obama has pointed this out repeatedly 9as have other US presidents) but they must all be anti-semites

Every time a peace process bit was up for a vote, some Hamas type would Chuck a rocket in and screw it up.

[Jimbeaux]

968 said:

Jimbeaux said:

I believe it is true. Go lay back down with your stale lies.

As long as you believe it that's ok but I guess your messiah has ushered in the post truth age so you'll be right at home. History and facts actually disagree with your account, however.

If your Prophet would publish a sequel to his "100 ways to kill an Infidel", perhaps we could all move on; since you wish to get all insulty about it.

Edited by Jimbeaux on Saturday 24th December 23:14

[Jimbeaux]

MTech535 said:

REALIST123 said:

JawKnee said:

Jimbeaux said:

There is no such thing as a "Palestinian". Those are the people that were betrayed and left trapped in lands the "brother nations" lost after five of them attacked Israel and were defeated. Those "brother nations" could have easily, years ago, absorbed those people into their nations. Two reasons they have not. First, they don't really give a damn about them. Secondly, they are happy keeping them right where they are as they serve as an excuse to continue acting out. These nations' leadership not want a two state solution; the only thing that will make them happy is Israel ceasing to exist.

Christ. And I thought I chatted the most st on this forum.

Have to agree, you've been out stted this time ....

Not site what part of Jimbeax's post you are taking issue with. Is what he said incorrect?

Good question; thanks. Prepare to be disappointed though.

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Jimbeaux said:

Every time a peace process bit was up for a vote, some Hamas type would Chuck a rocket in and screw it up.

That's a weak excuse. If the Israelis were genuinely interested in peace they would cease settlement expansion. At the moment their modus operandi is to keep on pushing the settlements and then when the palestinians feel that their best option is to fire back rockets the Israelis throw up their hands in mock horror and say "Look! we've done nothing to these people. It's our way of life! they want to push us back into the sea" etc etc....

[Jimbeaux]

Countdown said:

Jimbeaux said:

Every time a peace process bit was up for a vote, some Hamas type would Chuck a rocket in and screw it up.

That's a weak excuse. If the Israelis were genuinely interested in peace they would cease settlement expansion. At the moment their modus operandi is to keep on pushing the settlements and then when the palestinians feel that their best option is to fire back rockets the Israelis throw up their hands in mock horror and say "Look! we've done nothing to these people. It's our way of life! they want to push us back into the sea" etc etc....

The groups they keep electing as their representatives continue to state their doctrine is to push them into the sea; what would you think??

[Jimbeaux]

eddharris said:

Muntu said:

Take it easy Crispin, you can give him a handjob when you visit him.
For now Steven Seagal has his own hispanic help for the rub jobs.

Hey you, most on here know my wife is Hispanic. I don't appreciate you referring to her as "sexual help". If you have a problem with me, deal with me, don't be a coward and have a dig at my wife who has no part in any of this. Punk.

[Jimbeaux]

Countdown said:

eddharris said:

Muntu said:

Take it easy Crispin, you can give him a handjob when you visit him.
For now Steven Seagal has his own hispanic help for the rub jobs.

And you, Unrepentent's, elf, you most certainly know this. Try to not be a total punk as well.

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Jimbeaux said:

MTech535 said:

REALIST123 said:

JawKnee said:

Jimbeaux said:

There is no such thing as a "Palestinian". Those are the people that were betrayed and left trapped in lands the "brother nations" lost after five of them attacked Israel and were defeated. Those "brother nations" could have easily, years ago, absorbed those people into their nations. Two reasons they have not. First, they don't really give a damn about them. Secondly, they are happy keeping them right where they are as they serve as an excuse to continue acting out. These nations' leadership not want a two state solution; the only thing that will make them happy is Israel ceasing to exist.

Christ. And I thought I chatted the most st on this forum.

Have to agree, you've been out stted this time ....

Not site what part of Jimbeax's post you are taking issue with. Is what he said incorrect?

Good question; thanks. Prepare to be disappointed though.

I'm sure Jawknee is more than capable of answering the points but I'd like to add in my two'pence worth, if thats ok.

Firstly the comment about there being no such as a "palestinian" - it's rubbish, as anybody whose read the bible will know. The word Palestine (falasteen in arabic) is basically the word Philistine.

And the fact about "no palestinians being absorbed by their brother nations" is also complete rubbish. there are a huge number of Palestinians living in Jordan, in Lebanon and are dispersed throughout the Middle East. Should they be absorbed by their countries? Possibly but firstly some of those countries couldnt afford to. Secondly and more importantly, should the other countries just accept Israel's desire to ethnically cleanse the West Bank by increasing settlement building? If somebody tried to evict me from my land I wouldn't make it easy for them.

And the Israelis themselves have stated that they will not accept a two-state solution when they are the ONLY ones who are able to allow it. So it really is disingenuous bo11ocks to suggest it's the leadership of other countries who don't want it.