London = Awesome / Rest of UK = Rubbish... Discuss...
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London is fecking excellent if you're single and reasonably cash rich. There are so many things to do, brilliant pubs, bars, restaurants, sites, theatre, movies, etc. Unless you're talking about rolling hills and fresh air, then it's got lots going for it.
Yes, for a petrolhead, it's a bit limiting, as it's hard to find somewhere to park or store a car or more than one car.
I work in London still, but to raise a family I moved out to Kent, and once I wasn't single anymore, the social side of London didn't appeal so much. That said, it has a buzz about it, and offers much that other cities in the UK don't.
I find people who can't find anything at all to like about London incomprehensible.
OP: The Standard is a London paper. It pretty well advocates London being a city state independent of the rest of the UK, so it's unsurprising it goes on about that metric.
Having said that, I don't think "rest of UK = Rubbish" is at all fair. Most parts of the UK have something going for them (maybe not Wolverhampton - dunno), and I must admit that if what I do for a living didn't revolve around being in London, I'd probably move further from it.
Yes, for a petrolhead, it's a bit limiting, as it's hard to find somewhere to park or store a car or more than one car.
I work in London still, but to raise a family I moved out to Kent, and once I wasn't single anymore, the social side of London didn't appeal so much. That said, it has a buzz about it, and offers much that other cities in the UK don't.
I find people who can't find anything at all to like about London incomprehensible.
OP: The Standard is a London paper. It pretty well advocates London being a city state independent of the rest of the UK, so it's unsurprising it goes on about that metric.
Having said that, I don't think "rest of UK = Rubbish" is at all fair. Most parts of the UK have something going for them (maybe not Wolverhampton - dunno), and I must admit that if what I do for a living didn't revolve around being in London, I'd probably move further from it.
Prawnboy said:
indeed
Yeppo...makes no sense to have these parts of the business in a high-cost jurisdiction such as Bermuda..so we've movedIT
Accounting
Back-office
to Bristol. Savings are quite extraordinary, especially as you get
Business Rates relief for 5 years
Grants for fibre installs
Funding for job creation (20K per role up to a max of 4 new roles).
They throw money at you to move into their EZ as they are all competing with each other
juice said:
Yeppo...makes no sense to have these parts of the business in a high-cost jurisdiction such as Bermuda..so we've moved
IT
Accounting
Back-office
to Bristol. Savings are quite extraordinary, especially as you get
Business Rates relief for 5 years
Grants for fibre installs
Funding for job creation (20K per role up to a max of 4 new roles).
They throw money at you to move into their EZ as they are all competing with each other
and the money the buiness makes stays in low tax bermuda?IT
Accounting
Back-office
to Bristol. Savings are quite extraordinary, especially as you get
Business Rates relief for 5 years
Grants for fibre installs
Funding for job creation (20K per role up to a max of 4 new roles).
They throw money at you to move into their EZ as they are all competing with each other
Worked & lived there for 7 years. At least workwise it was busy and 'cos it's in the spotlight the resources were generally available.
Not so good IMHO if you want a family life. Towards the end of my time there several colleagues and I referred to it as Mugsville-on-Thames. Only semi-jokingly.
Love going back for a day or two and great to know what I'm going home to, i.e. not there.
If you've got a good job, friends & money and you're happy with the place. And I was. It's not for me now though.
Not so good IMHO if you want a family life. Towards the end of my time there several colleagues and I referred to it as Mugsville-on-Thames. Only semi-jokingly.
Love going back for a day or two and great to know what I'm going home to, i.e. not there.
If you've got a good job, friends & money and you're happy with the place. And I was. It's not for me now though.
Scuffers said:
London = toilet IMHO
get in, do your business and get out as fast as possible...
Correction:get in, do your business and get out as fast as possible...
UK = toilet IMHO
get in, do your business and get out as fast as possible...
which is exactly what I did more than 10 years ago. On the odd occasion when I visit friends in teh UK (including London) I'm amazed at how dirty, uncomfortable and unattractive the whole place has become, definitely the toilet of Europe.
Silver993tt said:
Correction:
UK = toilet IMHO
get in, do your business and get out as fast as possible...
which is exactly what I did more than 10 years ago. On the odd occasion when I visit friends in teh UK (including London) I'm amazed at how dirty, uncomfortable and unattractive the whole place has become, definitely the toilet of Europe.
This morning in the UK.UK = toilet IMHO
get in, do your business and get out as fast as possible...
which is exactly what I did more than 10 years ago. On the odd occasion when I visit friends in teh UK (including London) I'm amazed at how dirty, uncomfortable and unattractive the whole place has become, definitely the toilet of Europe.
Not all the UK is a toilet.
London is though. (Lived there for 30 years and unfortunately have to visit from time to time).
GetCarter said:
Silver993tt said:
Correction:
UK = toilet IMHO
get in, do your business and get out as fast as possible...
which is exactly what I did more than 10 years ago. On the odd occasion when I visit friends in teh UK (including London) I'm amazed at how dirty, uncomfortable and unattractive the whole place has become, definitely the toilet of Europe.
This morning in the UK.UK = toilet IMHO
get in, do your business and get out as fast as possible...
which is exactly what I did more than 10 years ago. On the odd occasion when I visit friends in teh UK (including London) I'm amazed at how dirty, uncomfortable and unattractive the whole place has become, definitely the toilet of Europe.
Not all the UK is a toilet.
London is though. (Lived there for 30 years and unfortunately have to visit from time to time).
vescaegg said:
GetCarter said:
Silver993tt said:
Correction:
UK = toilet IMHO
get in, do your business and get out as fast as possible...
which is exactly what I did more than 10 years ago. On the odd occasion when I visit friends in teh UK (including London) I'm amazed at how dirty, uncomfortable and unattractive the whole place has become, definitely the toilet of Europe.
This morning in the UK.UK = toilet IMHO
get in, do your business and get out as fast as possible...
which is exactly what I did more than 10 years ago. On the odd occasion when I visit friends in teh UK (including London) I'm amazed at how dirty, uncomfortable and unattractive the whole place has become, definitely the toilet of Europe.
Not all the UK is a toilet.
London is though. (Lived there for 30 years and unfortunately have to visit from time to time).
Silver993tt said:
That's the problem, the whole place needs some fancy photos which very, very rarely reflect the true place. I saw the light years ago, the only mistake I made was not seeing it years before that.
Perhaps the UK didn't work out for you, but there's plenty of other people living there quite happily. The UK is quite diverse, and to call the whole place a toilet is a bit ignorant. vescaegg said:
It's easy to be selective with what you show of London though.See?
London is a great place to go as a tourist, I wouldn't want to live there. Even living outside of London and commuting in looks like a chore. For all of the rich enclaves, the financial district, the cultural hotspots etc, there is a rotting hulk of urban sprawl surrounding it.
Scuffers said:
MarshPhantom said:
Scuffers said:
London = toilet IMHO
get in, do your business and get out as fast as possible...
If you had friends visiting the UK from abroad would you tell them not to bother with London?get in, do your business and get out as fast as possible...
It would be like telling someone travelling around Italy to avoid Rome or Venice or Florence. I'm sure you can find bad things to say about those places but to avoid them would be missing out.
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