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This notion of 'wannabe' Londoners is bizarre. Most people outside the area regard anything within the M25 as 'London' and so if I were describing a location in the surrounding counties to somebody outside the area I would be inclined to call it London. For example if I were staying in Harrow I would tell somebody it was "in North West London", or Croydon I would say South London, etc. Yes incorrect in terms of actual boundaries but in this sense London is being described as a region rather than city 'proper'.
If I were talking to somebody more familiar with the London area I'd be more specific.
It's no different to somebody from Jersey City telling a Brit they are from NYC - incorrect but far more helpful to anyone who isn't that familiar with US geography...
If I were talking to somebody more familiar with the London area I'd be more specific.
It's no different to somebody from Jersey City telling a Brit they are from NYC - incorrect but far more helpful to anyone who isn't that familiar with US geography...
alfaman said:
Personally I'd rather live/work in Singapore than London having done both:
Better food, transport, climate, housing, lower income tax , much cleaner and less crime.
You forgot to mention that the theatre, culture, museums, sport, business & finance, indeed, everything that makes a city great to experience are far better in Singapore too. Better food, transport, climate, housing, lower income tax , much cleaner and less crime.
To live in London for me is that you can almost walk to central, and all of the great stuff that London offers. And really, unless you're in z1, that just is not the case. You hear this utter s
t about how people couldn't bear to be outside of z2, when the reality is that much of z2 is almost no different (apart from distance) to much of 3/4.
There is a lot of snobbery about zones, its usually very cringey.
t about how people couldn't bear to be outside of z2, when the reality is that much of z2 is almost no different (apart from distance) to much of 3/4.There is a lot of snobbery about zones, its usually very cringey.
theboss said:
This notion of 'wannabe' Londoners is bizarre. Most people outside the area regard anything within the M25 as 'London' and so if I were describing a location in the surrounding counties to somebody outside the area I would be inclined to call it London. For example if I were staying in Harrow I would tell somebody it was "in North West London", or Croydon I would say South London, etc. Yes incorrect in terms of actual boundaries but in this sense London is being described as a region rather than city 'proper'.
If I were talking to somebody more familiar with the London area I'd be more specific.
It's no different to somebody from Jersey City telling a Brit they are from NYC - incorrect but far more helpful to anyone who isn't that familiar with US geography...
I agree - except that in terms of actual boundaries, both Harrow and Croydon really are in London.If I were talking to somebody more familiar with the London area I'd be more specific.
It's no different to somebody from Jersey City telling a Brit they are from NYC - incorrect but far more helpful to anyone who isn't that familiar with US geography...
okgo said:
To live in London for me is that you can almost walk to central, and all of the great stuff that London offers. And really, unless you're in z1, that just is not the case. You hear this utter st about how people couldn't bear to be outside of z2, when the reality is that much of z2 is almost no different (apart from distance) to much of 3/4.
There is a lot of snobbery about zones, its usually very cringey.
I don't believe that people born in London see the city like that. I'd wager that it's 'incomers' who concern themselves with such trifles.t about how people couldn't bear to be outside of z2, when the reality is that much of z2 is almost no different (apart from distance) to much of 3/4.There is a lot of snobbery about zones, its usually very cringey.
To be born a bred a Londoner is the greatest advantage that God can bestow a man.
BJG1 said:
I said they were relevant, not a de-facto measure of how good a city is. Jesus, the standard of debate on PH has really taken a beating in the last year or two. This thread is fking embarrassing.
right back at you, you obviously did not read what I said in my first post on the subject, you just jumped on the Michelin comment, so don't be surprised when I pick up on that.king embarrassing. Back to the subject, London is a s
thole compared to a lot of other cities, and yes, I have been to more than a few.for me the giveaway is the 'London Borough of Harrow' and the 'London Borough of Croydon'...
and despite both those places being in London I doubt if anyone has ever lived in one of those places while working in the other, or even socialised in the other.
London - as well know - is huge. North and south hate each other while east and west don't even know each other exist. And the centre acts like a king, hoarding all the riches and occasionally throwing scraps of food to peasants.
and despite both those places being in London I doubt if anyone has ever lived in one of those places while working in the other, or even socialised in the other.
London - as well know - is huge. North and south hate each other while east and west don't even know each other exist. And the centre acts like a king, hoarding all the riches and occasionally throwing scraps of food to peasants.
Scuffers said:
Back to the subject, London is a sthole compared to a lot of other cities, and yes, I have been to more than a few.
No other city on the planet can compare to London. Yes, some do one or two things better than us. But, overall, the only city that can possibly compare is New York. And that's three thousand miles from anywhere.thole compared to a lot of other cities, and yes, I have been to more than a few.Over the years, we've had a succession of au pairs live with us. Girls from all over the world. They leave in awe of the place and the opportunities it affords.
If you can't find anything to love and be inspired by in my city then, the problem is clearly yours and not ours.
Blib said:
I don't believe that people born in London see the city like that. I'd wager that it's 'incomers' who concern themselves with such trifles.
To be born a bred a Londoner is the greatest advantage that God can bestow a man.
Possibly, though people do get very funny about it all. I personally can't afford to live as Central as I would like (z1) so I don't bother. And commute in from the burbs. But it seems people are so desperate to live in the middle ground, not quite London, not quite the suburbs, but priced much more like the former than the latter for no real reason...To be born a bred a Londoner is the greatest advantage that God can bestow a man.
I walked from Aldwych to Farringdon the other day, down Fleet St, Royal Courts, had a quick nose down in Middle Temple on the way, worked my way up through Holborn, Leather Lane, then down Exmouth Market for some grub at Moro, so many landmarks in such a short walk, how can anyone seriously suggest its a 's
thole'I challenge anyone to take a walk through the old streets of the city and say its s
t, go and sit in the gardens in the legal part of London, they are incredible serene yet just moments from the madness of the Strand. This looks 's
t' doesn't it
Blib said:
To be born a bred a Londoner is the greatest advantage that God can bestow a man.
I'm with Blib on this.
Down to the person and what they are used to. I like it as a tourist destination, hate it to work there when you have to drive. I like the ability to leave when I have had my fill, hate it when I have to drive away until I get past Reading or Oxford.
Not a city boy so like the quieter parts of the world as my normal everyday life.
Not a city boy so like the quieter parts of the world as my normal everyday life.
rover 623gsi said:
for me the giveaway is the 'London Borough of Harrow' and the 'London Borough of Croydon'...
and despite both those places being in London I doubt if anyone has ever lived in one of those places while working in the other, or even socialised in the other.
Oooops. I was born in Harrow, and whilst living there, dated a girl in Croydon.and despite both those places being in London I doubt if anyone has ever lived in one of those places while working in the other, or even socialised in the other.
Then moved to Hampstead, Camden amongst others.
Best thing I ever did was to stay in London and build a career there. Second best thing I ever did was to get out.
GetCarter said:
Blib said:
GetCarter's website said:
Steve works from his recording studio in the North West Highlands of Scotland, but records his orchestral music in London.
No bloody musos here! Luckily, I don't have to live there any more.
Blib said:
GetCarter said:
Blib said:
GetCarter's website said:
Steve works from his recording studio in the North West Highlands of Scotland, but records his orchestral music in London.
No bloody musos here! Luckily, I don't have to live there any more.
O/T Sadly, Simon is no longer with us, but Roland is still here and probably still drunk. He and I shared a flat for a couple of years. Mad doesn't come close.
GetCarter said:
Blib said:
GetCarter said:
Blib said:
GetCarter's website said:
Steve works from his recording studio in the North West Highlands of Scotland, but records his orchestral music in London.
No bloody musos here! Luckily, I don't have to live there any more.O/T Sadly, Simon is no longer with us, but Roland is still here and probably still drunk. He and I shared a flat for a couple of years. Mad doesn't come close.
.I first saw them perform in the original Comedy Store back in the 80s, IN LONDON!
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