Scotland after the vote
Discussion
pcvdriver said:
doogz said:
What impediment or interference are you referring to?
Any at all from those who aren't voting.......but acting as if they have the right to vote.....The rest of the UK, the EU, Irish folk, Scottish folk living in Berwick, 15 year olds? They should be banned from speaking about the referendum?
simoid said:
Where did you mention English? Well, you said "I'm glad we'll get the opportunity to go our separate ways" which is use of divisive language. I should've asked if you thought I lived in England - my apologies. Even if there is a yes vote, you won't be "going separate ways" from the millions of non-Yes voters in Scotland. I want to know if you think you'll be "going separate ways" from me...? 
What do you mean you wouldn't have expected any less from me? Most of what I post is calm, considered and backed up with evidence where applicable.
I don't know what gives you the impression that I'm a supporter of UKIP, either.
I asked what you think of me as you seem to be well wide of the mark in the majority of your replies. Apologies Neonblau if you think it irrelevant - I'm trying to help pcvdriver appreciate and understand my point of view, even if he doesn't agree with it
Oops...my apologies also seem to be in order - I must have mistaken you for our lonely-loon of a kipper North of the border who keeps proclaiming that he's fWhat do you mean you wouldn't have expected any less from me? Most of what I post is calm, considered and backed up with evidence where applicable.
I don't know what gives you the impression that I'm a supporter of UKIP, either.
I asked what you think of me as you seem to be well wide of the mark in the majority of your replies. Apologies Neonblau if you think it irrelevant - I'm trying to help pcvdriver appreciate and understand my point of view, even if he doesn't agree with it
king off post yes vote.....pcvdriver said:
doogz said:
What impediment or interference are you referring to?
Any at all from those who aren't voting.......but acting as if they have the right to vote.....Sounds to me that what you are actually saying is that you cannot bear to hear from anyone that does not agree with YOUR position.
pcvdriver said:
Oops...my apologies also seem to be in order - I must have mistaken you for our lonely-loon of a kipper North of the border who keeps proclaiming that he's fking off post yes vote.....
Are you aware of the results of the most recent elections?king off post yes vote.....Point of order: 140,534 Scottish residents voted for UKIP.
andymadmak said:
So, what you are saying is that anybody who does not have a vote is not entitled to express an opinion? That anyone who does not have a vote and who does express an opinion represents an impediment to Scotland making its own choice in September?
Sounds to me that what you are actually saying is that you cannot bear to hear from anyone that does not agree with YOUR position.
Perhaps a wee bit like that SNP convenor of a Holyrood committee who silenced Prof Adam Tomkins recently, after heSounds to me that what you are actually saying is that you cannot bear to hear from anyone that does not agree with YOUR position.
pointed out that "under international law embassies would belong to the rest of the UK if Scotland voted for independence."
http://www.thecourier.co.uk/news/scotland/committe...
pcvdriver said:
Any at all from those who aren't voting.......but acting as if they have the right to vote.....
What, you mean like us Scottish expats who would like to know if we're going to have to go through customs to get back into our own bloody country? Or what currency I should get before I go home? Or, perish the thought, maybe we're a bit concerned for the welfare of family and friends who still live there? Considering this vote will affect EVERYONE in the UK, it sticks in the craw a little that only those North of the border can vote in it. Especially for us Scots who are no longer there.
simoid said:
Perhaps a wee bit like that SNP convenor of a Holyrood committee who silenced Prof Adam Tomkins recently, after he
pointed out that "under international law embassies would belong to the rest of the UK if Scotland voted for independence."
http://www.thecourier.co.uk/news/scotland/committe...
To be fair, he was interrupted while highlighting incorrect information in the white paper; he had probably been speaking for some time with no sign of stopping. pointed out that "under international law embassies would belong to the rest of the UK if Scotland voted for independence."
http://www.thecourier.co.uk/news/scotland/committe...
andymadmak said:
pcvdriver said:
doogz said:
What impediment or interference are you referring to?
Any at all from those who aren't voting.......but acting as if they have the right to vote.....Sounds to me that what you are actually saying is that you cannot bear to hear from anyone that does not agree with YOUR position.
andymadmak said:
pcvdriver said:
doogz said:
What impediment or interference are you referring to?
Any at all from those who aren't voting.......but acting as if they have the right to vote.....Sounds to me that what you are actually saying is that you cannot bear to hear from anyone that does not agree with YOUR position.
simoid said:
arp1 said:
No point in going over old ground as you know it will just be a screaming match ( my dicks bigger than your dick blah blah blah)... It's all up in the air and open to conjecture anyway so don't fret just vote as you will
Sorry I wasn't aware that you have had a discussion with us on the main thread Anyway, you're half right. It's a shame that so many of the Yes voters like yourself seem to have given up with their campaigning so soon
If there's a yes vote, it's all up in the air. Utter chaos. A Pandora's box of "what if...?" because of the SNP's inability to plan for the real world, such as what currency we'll be using, how much the business of separation will cost and the knock-on effects to UK business in facing major divisional reorganisation.
All that stuff the yes voters don't think about, you know?
McWigglebum4th said:
arp1 said:
Exactly! The number of ppl on here that are of the same opinion and do not allow others to express their opinion is disgusting!
Anyone is allowed to have an opinionjust don't be surprised when it is shown to be based entirely on rubbish
arp1 said:
I didn't realise there was an etiquette for posting in certain posts and conversations? There is a lot the no voters have not thought about or accepted either mind. You are right in as much itvis a Pandora's box but not everything is rUK's to divvy up since we have 300 years of dues to divvy up, including taking back a swathe of stolen Scottish water!
The etiquette/posting rules are that you discuss things on the thread for them. simoid said:
arp1 said:
I didn't realise there was an etiquette for posting in certain posts and conversations? There is a lot the no voters have not thought about or accepted either mind. You are right in as much itvis a Pandora's box but not everything is rUK's to divvy up since we have 300 years of dues to divvy up, including taking back a swathe of stolen Scottish water!
The etiquette/posting rules are that you discuss things on the thread for them. arp1 said:
But what makes all the no propaganda all true and the yes propaganda all false and rubbish?
These definitions should help.true
truː/
adjective
adjective: true; comparative adjective: truer; superlative adjective: truest
1.
in accordance with fact or reality.
"a true story"
synonyms: accurate, correct, verifiable, faithful, literal, veracious; More
in accordance with reality, what actually/really happened, the case, so;
unelaborated, unvarnished;
informalas true as I'm sitting/standing here
"it may seem hard to believe, but I can assure you it's true"
antonyms: untrue, false, fallacious
rightly or strictly so called; genuine.
"people are still willing to pay for true craftsmanship"
synonyms: genuine, authentic, real, actual, proper, veritable; More
bona fide;
informalhonest-to-goodness, kosher, pukka, legit, the real McCoy, regular;
informaldinkum
"people are still willing to pay for true craftsmanship"
rightful, legitimate, legal, lawful, authorized, recognized, valid;
bona fide;
de jure
"the true owner of the goods"
sincere, genuine, real, unfeigned, unpretended, unaffected, heartfelt, from the heart
"the necessity for true repentance"
antonyms: bogus, phoney, de facto, insincere, feigned
real or actual.
"he has guessed my true intentions"
said when conceding a point.
"true, the house faced north, but you got used to that"
2.
accurate or exact.
"it was a true depiction"
synonyms: accurate, true to life, faithful, telling it like it is, as it really happened, fact-based, realistic, close, lifelike, convincing; More
false
fɔːls,fɒls/
adjective
adjective: false; comparative adjective: falser; superlative adjective: falsest
1.
not according with truth or fact; incorrect.
"he was feeding false information to his customers"
synonyms: incorrect, untrue, wrong, erroneous, fallacious, faulty, flawed, distorted, inaccurate, inexact, imprecise, invalid, unfounded; More
untruthful, fictitious, concocted, fabricated, invented, made up, trumped up, unreal, counterfeit, forged, fraudulent, spurious, misleading, deceptive
"he gave a false account of his movements"
antonyms: correct, truthful
not according with rules or law.
"false imprisonment"
2.
made to imitate something in order to deceive.
"the trunk had a false bottom"
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