Scotland after the vote

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NoNeed

15,137 posts

201 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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Trollburger said:
Done without independence.

Edited by NoNeed on Tuesday 19th August 20:23

NoNeed

15,137 posts

201 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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///ajd said:
NoNeed said:
Trollburger said:
We don't know for sure if he was dishonest though....
I'm sure there would have been a response to the Bank of England if there was even a slight hint that what they was saying was even remotely wrong or incorrect. The silence is the biggest sign of guilt, that and a lack of denial.
Quite. You do have to wonder what a Holyrood MSP has to do before their behaviour is judged below an acceptable level. As said above, Alex has already set the bar low with his EU advice lie and his office trying to get newspapers to discredit a No voting mum.
It would appear we have finally had the "I didn't mean to say that speach"
The SNP will tell any amount of lies as they know their followers are blind and deaf to their actions.

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

205 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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Edinburger said:
McWigglebum4th said:
I never claimed there was one

It is you that is blind to the sins of many of your YES voting brothers

Maybe your fence is a bit high
Actually, you did. Several times. Earlier in the main thread.
Several times

Excellent news

You will have no bother in quoting me then



McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

205 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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Edinburger said:
McWigglebum4th said:
No

I am saying a large proportion of the YES voters are work shy freebies grabbing bampots

lets be clear on this


The majority of scots aren't like that and will be voting NO
Any evidence of this claim?
No as it is an opinion

If you wish to prove me incorrect i would welcome to see that the vast majority of YES voters are hard working industrious people who aren't for a free ride and don't blame everything on england.

arp1

583 posts

128 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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McWigglebum4th said:
Edinburger said:
McWigglebum4th said:
No

I am saying a large proportion of the YES voters are work shy freebies grabbing bampots

lets be clear on this


The majority of scots aren't like that and will be voting NO
Any evidence of this claim?
No as it is an opinion

If you wish to prove me incorrect i would welcome to see that the vast majority of YES voters are hard working industrious people who aren't for a free ride and don't blame everything on england.
Why do you think that yes voters aren't hard working industrious types who are not in it for a free ride? The current government has allowed the people of Scotland to access free services, I don't see that as a bad thing, but clearly you do (even though you benefit from it also). How many no voters do you assume to be the of the same ilk you class yes voters?

I'm assuming you have a chip on your shoulder as since you live in Aberdeen (or the vicinity) that you work for a oil company or close associate or one that benefits from the oil sector. You would have to be an idiot to chose to live there if you weren't. As such, you must think that our government are lying re. Oil revenues etc and you are scared that your company will up sticks and move south. I understand that you may be scared but like a lot of decent hard working yes voters, we are not scared and see through a lot of the lies and spin and hypocrisy the no campaign are producing and then Having to back track or cover up their tracks etc, I get it. Be strong and keep the faith like the yes voter, those that are not scared. Be like those who are wanting a better future for their children and their childrens children. Don't be the scared one.

eldar

21,802 posts

197 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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arp1 said:
Why do you think that yes voters aren't hard working industrious types who are not in it for a free ride? The current government has allowed the people of Scotland to access free services, I don't see that as a bad thing, but clearly you do (even though you benefit from it also). How many no voters do you assume to be the of the same ilk you class yes voters?
Since you ask.... Based on the TV interviews the yes voters appear - in the main - to be fairly inarticulate, scruffy and aligned in not understanding the issues. The no voters less so.

Purely subjective, of course, and it is entirely possible the UK broadcasters are only picking feckless looking yes people to put on telly.

Rollin

6,099 posts

246 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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arp1 said:
McWigglebum4th said:
Edinburger said:
McWigglebum4th said:
No

I am saying a large proportion of the YES voters are work shy freebies grabbing bampots

lets be clear on this


The majority of scots aren't like that and will be voting NO
Any evidence of this claim?
No as it is an opinion

If you wish to prove me incorrect i would welcome to see that the vast majority of YES voters are hard working industrious people who aren't for a free ride and don't blame everything on england.
Why do you think that yes voters aren't hard working industrious types who are not in it for a free ride? The current government has allowed the people of Scotland to access free services, I don't see that as a bad thing, but clearly you do (even though you benefit from it also). How many no voters do you assume to be the of the same ilk you class yes voters?

I'm assuming you have a chip on your shoulder as since you live in Aberdeen (or the vicinity) that you work for a oil company or close associate or one that benefits from the oil sector. You would have to be an idiot to chose to live there if you weren't. As such, you must think that our government are lying re. Oil revenues etc and you are scared that your company will up sticks and move south. I understand that you may be scared but like a lot of decent hard working yes voters, we are not scared and see through a lot of the lies and spin and hypocrisy the no campaign are producing and then Having to back track or cover up their tracks etc, I get it. Be strong and keep the faith like the yes voter, those that are not scared. Be like those who are wanting a better future for their children and their childrens children. Don't be the scared one.
Bullst. You see through the lies? You're just another nationalist parrot who believes whatever the yes campaign says without further research.

arp1

583 posts

128 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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As opposed to a unionist parrot absorbing all the spin and propaganda?

arp1

583 posts

128 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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eldar said:
arp1 said:
Why do you think that yes voters aren't hard working industrious types who are not in it for a free ride? The current government has allowed the people of Scotland to access free services, I don't see that as a bad thing, but clearly you do (even though you benefit from it also). How many no voters do you assume to be the of the same ilk you class yes voters?
Since you ask.... Based on the TV interviews the yes voters appear - in the main - to be fairly inarticulate, scruffy and aligned in not understanding the issues. The no voters less so.

Purely subjective, of course, and it is entirely possible the UK broadcasters are only picking feckless looking yes people to put on telly.
I quite believe that there is a major bias within the media regarding the referendum campaign, and anybody disagreeing must have blinkers on to that fact.

Rollin

6,099 posts

246 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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arp1 said:
As opposed to a unionist parrot absorbing all the spin and propaganda?
From who? NATO? EU? BoE?

arp1

583 posts

128 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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Oh come on, you are categorically saying they are tellin 100% of the story?

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

205 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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arp1 said:
eldar said:
arp1 said:
Why do you think that yes voters aren't hard working industrious types who are not in it for a free ride? The current government has allowed the people of Scotland to access free services, I don't see that as a bad thing, but clearly you do (even though you benefit from it also). How many no voters do you assume to be the of the same ilk you class yes voters?
Since you ask.... Based on the TV interviews the yes voters appear - in the main - to be fairly inarticulate, scruffy and aligned in not understanding the issues. The no voters less so.

Purely subjective, of course, and it is entirely possible the UK broadcasters are only picking feckless looking yes people to put on telly.
I quite believe that there is a major bias within the media regarding the referendum campaign, and anybody disagreeing must have blinkers on to that fact.
I suppose Facebook and Twitter has excluded all the smart yes voters and is giving the fkwits their chance to call me an English Tory

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

205 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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arp1 said:
Why do you think that yes voters aren't hard working industrious types who are not in it for a free ride? The current government has allowed the people of Scotland to access free services, I don't see that as a bad thing, but clearly you do (even though you benefit from it also). How many no voters do you assume to be the of the same ilk you class yes voters?

I'm assuming you have a chip on your shoulder as since you live in Aberdeen (or the vicinity) that you work for a oil company or close associate or one that benefits from the oil sector. You would have to be an idiot to chose to live there if you weren't. As such, you must think that our government are lying re. Oil revenues etc and you are scared that your company will up sticks and move south. I understand that you may be scared but like a lot of decent hard working yes voters, we are not scared and see through a lot of the lies and spin and hypocrisy the no campaign are producing and then Having to back track or cover up their tracks etc, I get it. Be strong and keep the faith like the yes voter, those that are not scared. Be like those who are wanting a better future for their children and their childrens children. Don't be the scared one.

The think of the children line

Getting really fking boring now.


And why do you believe that YOU have exclusive rights to caring?

Is that the moral superiority of the true scots?

If I did give a st about the children I'd be voting No as the plans laid out by the SNP will cripple Scotland for at least a generation

arp1

583 posts

128 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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Troll troll troll troll troll

HenryJM

6,315 posts

130 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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arp1 said:
Troll troll troll troll troll
We knew that but it's good of you to identify yourself do clearly.

Rollin

6,099 posts

246 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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arp1 said:
Oh come on, you are categorically saying they are tellin 100% of the story?
So if NATO had said you would be a member following a yes vote, would you believe them?

Is it just because they've said otherwise that you don't believe them?

Same with EU?
Same with BoE?

Strange that isn't it?

Edinburger

10,403 posts

169 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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Sadly, this thread has gone the way of the main thread on independence and anyone who has the audacity to challenge or contradict the majority No posters is branded a troll.

So sad.

AstonZagato

12,719 posts

211 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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Burger, if you or your Yes fellows would engage in the debate, you'd be called trolls far less.

In fact, I notice since you have been reported to the mods, you have actually tried to answer some questions - I think I've seen more answers from you in 24 hours than the last 24 weeks. Less evasion, more engagement.

pcvdriver admitted that the Yes campaign had been lying - which was a big start. You also came close - but couldn't quite bring yourself to admit it fully. Get it out, man, you will feel far better.

HenryJM

6,315 posts

130 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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Edinburger said:
Sadly, this thread has gone the way of the main thread on independence and anyone who has the audacity to challenge or contradict the majority No posters is branded a troll.

So sad.
What's sad is the sheer lack of logic applied. Raise a subject like currency union or EU membership and all you get are Yessers disappearing for a while and coming back with more nonsense avoiding the issues.

It's not trolling to point out that Scotland doesn't own the pound, can't have a currency union, won't be in the EU, at least not initially. But in common with the SNP generally the issues just get ignored.

Rollin

6,099 posts

246 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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Edinburger said:
Sadly, this thread has gone the way of the main thread on independence and anyone who has the audacity to challenge or contradict the majority No posters is branded a troll.

So sad.
rofl

More like self righteous nats like yourself.

A simple one for you. What about the EU letters? Do you accept that a yes vote is a vote for Scotland to leave the EU?