Scotland after the vote
Discussion
arp1 said:
Uh... Majority of English voters want Scots 'punished', block grant cut, powers reduced, Barnett formula scrapped, English voters want westminister I take a 'hard line' against punitive Scots daring to have a referendum! That answer your question? Because it won't stay the same, that's for sure!
Actually we don't know why the Scots get a better deal than we get. The SNP keep banging on about a fairer society yet continue to take more than they give at the expense of other worthy causes within our society. It is about fairness not punishment but I can see why those with a victim mentality woukd think that.arp1 said:
Why is the phrases 'nationalists' and 'nationalism' seem to have this bad and derisory feel to it by fellow ph'ers? Those no voters are nothing but uk nationalists spouting uk nationalism ideals...
Funnily enough, I've just commented on that in the main thread. I would copy and paste it in here but then the teacher's pet would report me to the Mods for a repost... 
MintyChris said:
arp1 said:
Nah let's ride away on three lions instead, fud!
Oh? I must be an Englishman to be dissagreeing with you. Scotsman here Im afraid.p.s Scotland is in deficit with its block grant. Well over £10 billion a year. That doesnt include the billions it receives from the UK and EU for its oil, renewables and farming.
pps. Hitler was a Nationalist.
Edited by MintyChris on Wednesday 20th August 17:42
Play the ball, not the man.
McWigglebum4th said:
Wombat3 said:
Victim - much!
Remind me where the two previous prime ministers that did so much damage to the entire economic and social fabric of the entire country came from and which party they came from?
You have no proof that Tony Blair came from scotlandRemind me where the two previous prime ministers that did so much damage to the entire economic and social fabric of the entire country came from and which party they came from?
As that would be to deny the basic fact that he is a lizard and or undead reincarnation of the devil
Edinburger said:
MintyChris said:
arp1 said:
Nah let's ride away on three lions instead, fud!
Oh? I must be an Englishman to be dissagreeing with you. Scotsman here Im afraid.p.s Scotland is in deficit with its block grant. Well over £10 billion a year. That doesnt include the billions it receives from the UK and EU for its oil, renewables and farming.
pps. Hitler was a Nationalist.
Edited by MintyChris on Wednesday 20th August 17:42
Play the ball, not the man.
"Sir Ian Wood, the most influential figure in the Scottish oil industry, has accused Alex Salmond's government of exaggerating North Sea oil reserves by up to 60%.
Wood, the billionaire founder of the oil services firm Wood Group, said the first minister's administration had also overestimated North Sea oil income over the next five years by up to £2bn a year or £370 per person, raising serious questions about Salmond's public spending plans.
Revealing himself as an opponent of Scottish independence, Wood said North Sea oil reserves would begin to decline sharply within 15 years, raising questions about the future of the Scottish economy, jobs and its balance of payments if voters backed independence."
NoNeed said:
MintyChris said:
arp1 said:
Nah let's ride away on three lions instead, fud!
Oh? I must be and Englishman to be dissagreeing with you. Scotsman here Im afraid.p.s Scotland is in deficit with its block grant. Well over £10 billion a year. That doesnt include the billions it receives from the UK and EU for its oil, renewables and farming.
pps. Hitler was a Nationalist.
fblm said:
arp1 said:
Why is the phrases 'nationalists' and 'nationalism' seem to have this bad and derisory feel to it by fellow ph'ers? Those no voters are nothing but uk nationalists spouting uk nationalism ideals...
Call it irrational xenophobia then if it makes you feel better. It seems to be a pretty standard reaction that the power hungry have always been able to rely on to manipulate the dim. For the last f
king time (and I don't swear much) the Scottish political situation is not xenophobic or racist or anti-English or anti-anything.Seriously, get over that. Look at volumes 1 and 2 of the main thread if you still need educated about that.
Jeez.
MintyChris said:
The difference between London and the rest of the UK is that London runs a surplus. I allways laugh when yes voters go on about London hoovering up funds.
I swear yes voters are masochistic, they do more harm to their own campaign than we ever could.
Fixed that for you I swear yes voters are masochistic, they do more harm to their own campaign than we ever could.
Edinburger said:
STOP
For the last fking time (and I don't swear much) the Scottish political situation is not xenophobic or racist or anti-English or anti-anything.
Seriously, get over that. Look at volumes 1 and 2 of the main thread if you still need educated about that.
Jeez.
You have to admit that there is a lot of anti English sentiment out there, though.For the last f
king time (and I don't swear much) the Scottish political situation is not xenophobic or racist or anti-English or anti-anything.Seriously, get over that. Look at volumes 1 and 2 of the main thread if you still need educated about that.
Jeez.
Troubleatmill said:
Edinburger - as you seem to be in a debating mood these days.
Do you accept that food will be more expensive in an independent Scotland? (Source: All the major supermarkets who say it will )
Yes, I do. Economies of scale. Many things would be more expensive in an independent Scotland.Do you accept that food will be more expensive in an independent Scotland? (Source: All the major supermarkets who say it will )
Rollin said:
Edinburger said:
MintyChris said:
arp1 said:
Nah let's ride away on three lions instead, fud!
Oh? I must be an Englishman to be dissagreeing with you. Scotsman here Im afraid.p.s Scotland is in deficit with its block grant. Well over £10 billion a year. That doesnt include the billions it receives from the UK and EU for its oil, renewables and farming.
pps. Hitler was a Nationalist.
Edited by MintyChris on Wednesday 20th August 17:42
Play the ball, not the man.
"Sir Ian Wood, the most influential figure in the Scottish oil industry, has accused Alex Salmond's government of exaggerating North Sea oil reserves by up to 60%.
Wood, the billionaire founder of the oil services firm Wood Group, said the first minister's administration had also overestimated North Sea oil income over the next five years by up to £2bn a year or £370 per person, raising serious questions about Salmond's public spending plans.
Revealing himself as an opponent of Scottish independence, Wood said North Sea oil reserves would begin to decline sharply within 15 years, raising questions about the future of the Scottish economy, jobs and its balance of payments if voters backed independence."
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