Scotland after the vote

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Kermit power

28,692 posts

214 months

Thursday 21st August 2014
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Rick_1138 said:
Good God, now they are saying on the news that an independent Scotland should follow Panama as an example of using the dollar with no lender of last resort.
rofl

Is Salmond on a sponsored ridicule run or something???

William Patterson in 1698 said:
Gentlemen, I have a plan to secure Scotland's greatness on the World Stage!!!! Tell me... have you ever heard of Panama?
Alex Salmond in 2014 said:
Gentlemen, I have a plan to secure Scotland's greatness on the World Stage!!!! Tell me... have you ever heard of Panama?

Troubleatmill

10,210 posts

160 months

Thursday 21st August 2014
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To arp1.

Just out of curiosity - how old are you?

You come across somewhat youthful.

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 21st August 2014
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arp1 said:
Spend our way out of trouble, lower taxes and get more people spending smile
rofl

AstonZagato

12,721 posts

211 months

Thursday 21st August 2014
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Kermit power said:
Rick_1138 said:
Good God, now they are saying on the news that an independent Scotland should follow Panama as an example of using the dollar with no lender of last resort.
rofl

Is Salmond on a sponsored ridicule run or something???

William Patterson in 1698 said:
Gentlemen, I have a plan to secure Scotland's greatness on the World Stage!!!! Tell me... have you ever heard of Panama?
Alex Salmond in 2014 said:
Gentlemen, I have a plan to secure Scotland's greatness on the World Stage!!!! Tell me... have you ever heard of Panama?
Too funny (if it weren't so bloody serious for the poor Scots he's trying to inflict this upon).

NoNeed

15,137 posts

201 months

Thursday 21st August 2014
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arp1 said:
Spend our way out of trouble, lower taxes and get more people spending smile
You obviously didn't get the email about how we got into the mess we are in so I will give you a short summary.

People spent what they couldn't afford, banks lent what they couldn't afford so had to ask the then Labour government who were spending what they couldn't afford for help. The net result is £1.5 Trillion in personal debt and £1.4 Trillion National debt.

£2.9 Trillion was spent that people couldn't afford. That debt not only still exists but is still growing at a rate that is far too high.


So now you know you can either acknowledge you were wrong or explain to us how this spending will get you out of trouble.

Chlamydia

1,082 posts

128 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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fblm said:
arp1 said:
Spend our way out of trouble, lower taxes and get more people spending smile
rofl
There are more genuine laughs in this thread than in the Sean Connery joke thread biggrin

simoid

19,772 posts

159 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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McWigglebum4th said:
Welshbeef said:
McWigglebum4th said:
The scarey thing is

Online i have seen guess nats saying that Scotland should forcefully take over all the utilities and then the oil fields and let the state run them


No not even vaguely fking terrifying
Are they idiotic?

You simply cannot do that without recourse for the share holders



Plus where are they getting the money to do so? Plus these will have huge ongoing infrastructure building going into the many many billions again how will they lend the money?
No

forcefully as in the state takes over with the share holders being left out of pocket
Best not to joke - this is the exact SNP policy about the Royal Mail is it not!?

Troubleatmill

10,210 posts

160 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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Chlamydia said:
fblm said:
arp1 said:
Spend our way out of trouble, lower taxes and get more people spending smile
rofl
There are more genuine laughs in this thread than in the Sean Connery joke thread biggrin
And yet - he has the intelligence to work a computer. Staggering really.

Borghetto

3,274 posts

184 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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I think arp1 is an advisor to John Swinney.

Wombat3

12,221 posts

207 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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Borghetto said:
I think arp1 is an advisor to John Swinney.
I think arp1 IS john Swinney ! smile

Axionknight

8,505 posts

136 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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After the Yes vote Comrade Salmond is going to lead the charge against inequality in iScotland, first things first is to liquidate the Kulaks, after that we start a fresh with collectivization and hey presto, jobs jobbed!

Edited by Axionknight on Saturday 23 August 08:01

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

199 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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I've a funny feeling that after the No vote it will be a Neverendum as in NATS keep pushing for another vote forever more the harm done will be reduced investment from companies - well done NATS you have done more harm to Scotland than anyone else has and its a very very difficult thing to reverse.


Still rUK will benefit from it

Cobnapint

8,636 posts

152 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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McWigglebum4th said:
I believe that Scotland has started down a path filled with hatred and blame along with a rise in sectarian violence, we have already seen a moron going down secterian lines in the main indpendence thread and hope that scumbag has been banned for good from this site.

We already have morons calling for all NO voters to be hung from lampposts as well as idiots calling for an armed up rising

I also belive that less and less government contracts will be heading to Scotland.

I think this has badly hurt scotlands future

I hope i am wrong.
I think you may well be right. As well as the air of uncertainty that will hang over Scotland for a couple of decades now the independence seed has been planted, by the sounds of it it'll be leaving an open sore in many communities that will probably take alot longer to heal.

Alex, what have you done....?

Kermit power

28,692 posts

214 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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I rather suspect the Yes voters on here either won't believe me or will choose to stick their fingers in their ears, but I was at a presentation yesterday from a smallish (around £5m turnover, 50-ish employees) company who said that they'd started in Scotland, but had recently moved much of their operation South of the border, as they were worried about the referendum debate and the uncertainty impact it was having on their attempts to win business in England.

First person I've actually met face to face who has said they've specifically moved jobs out of Scotland because of the referendum.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

199 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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Kermit power said:
I rather suspect the Yes voters on here either won't believe me or will choose to stick their fingers in their ears, but I was at a presentation yesterday from a smallish (around £5m turnover, 50-ish employees) company who said that they'd started in Scotland, but had recently moved much of their operation South of the border, as they were worried about the referendum debate and the uncertainty impact it was having on their attempts to win business in England.

First person I've actually met face to face who has said they've specifically moved jobs out of Scotland because of the referendum.
Let me guess a Pro Yes supporters response

All lies its bluff and bluster or they were vermin which are not welcome in our country.


Scaremongering

Preposterous

Bullying

Wasteminster - they live that one

Small cock big clock

MintyChris

848 posts

193 months

Saturday 23rd August 2014
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Welshbeef said:
I've a funny feeling that after the No vote it will be a Neverendum as in NATS keep pushing for another vote forever more the harm done will be reduced investment from companies - well done NATS you have done more harm to Scotland than anyone else has and its a very very difficult thing to reverse.


Still rUK will benefit from it
Personally I hope that after a No vote the UK government tells the nats and snp to shut up and accept it. I'm hoping this wont be needed though and the snp will be royally booted out of office soon.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

199 months

Saturday 23rd August 2014
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MintyChris said:
Personally I hope that after a No vote the UK government tells the nats and snp to shut up and accept it. I'm hoping this wont be needed though and the snp will be royally booted out of office soon.
You can never force against the will of the people so more referendums could be par for course.

Cornwall
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Walford

Original Poster:

2,259 posts

167 months

Saturday 23rd August 2014
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Welshbeef said:
You can never force against the will of the people so more referendums could be par for course.


England
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Would be 75% YES

HenryJM

6,315 posts

130 months

Saturday 23rd August 2014
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Can't we have a Yorkshire one? We are as big as Scotland in population and prosperity (and got a hell of a lot more gold medals!)

Only snag is I think we like being British...

Derek Smith

45,739 posts

249 months

Saturday 23rd August 2014
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I have to say that as the date approaches I am getting a bit worried. Despite the polls, anything can happen on the day.

I've lived with Scots, worked with them and have one or two as friends. I like them in the same way that I like other people. They are just like us.

The Scots I know have moved out of Scotland and no one could criticise them for a parochial attitude.

If the UK does break up then it will cost the rest of us to a considerable degree but it will hurt the Scots more. The likelihood is that there will be a lurch to the left and that's not going to be good.

I keep reading reports of firms considering, and planning, for a move south of Hadrian's Wall. For some this will be regardless of the outcome.

There will be massive political upheaval. The lawyers will make a killing. Shetland might well cause all sorts of aggravation. We have only to look across the Irish Sea to realise what partition can cause.

The Union was the best thing that happened to England/Wales and Scotland. If there were valid reasons to break up the partnership then so be it but there aren't. All this stuff about self determination yet the intent seems to be, requirement actually, to join the EU. As a newbie there will be even less self-determination than there is now.

What seems to have been the motivation behind this was the suggestion of the Celtic arc of prosperity, and look what happened there. If that happens to Scotland then it would be a tragedy for a country I regard as part of mine.

A leap into the unknown is about the best description of a yes vote I can think of.

This has hurt the Union. If there's a close no vote then this will give further problems. If there's a close yes vote then that too might cause problems.

So I'm worried. I'm worried about the UK, about Scotland and about the rest of us.

Nothing good will come of this.