Scotland after the vote
Discussion
andymadmak said:
arp1 said:
We will be true and proud Scottish folk and do what we always do, and the little englanders will bleat and moan as per usual and as per this thread... No wonder there is an underlying yes opinion in Scotland
Actually, no wonder there is a large and growing yes opinion in rUK. Little englanders? Carry on with the abuse, and see where it gets you after the vote sunshine. Bleat and moan? You will be. You have no idea just how much anti Scottish feeling has been stirred up in rUK as a result of the way the Nats have gone about this vote. But you will find out. Please vote yes and go away!
All we hear from most (well to be honest - not even no voters) who happen to live South of the border about how we'll all be in the poor house and about how we will be begging and screaming to rejoin RumpUK.
I feel I need to bring to your attention about our other close neighbour who chose not to be governed from Westminster - who has recently had some quite severe financial woes - never has been inclined to want to rejoin our collective nations.
So Scotland with it's much healthier and diverse economy, not to mention greater mineral wealth deposits than Ireland, should do just grand......(oops, my prose is taking on an Irish lilt there
)Foppo said:
You might as well let Northen Ireland go.Cost the U.K. taxpayer plenty of money and for what in return.?It will happen one united Ireland only takes time.
I think the poorer Scots will vote for independence no relation what so ever with West Minster.Most of the business Scots wil want to stay in the Union.Just my take on it.
We have Foppo suggesting that RumpUK hand the North back to Eire - I can't imagine that going down too well in certain quarters of No Voters. (I won't say more about it in case someone gets it into their head that it's a sectarian comment - which obviously it's not)I think the poorer Scots will vote for independence no relation what so ever with West Minster.Most of the business Scots wil want to stay in the Union.Just my take on it.
Personally - I think Northern Ireland would be better off as a separate independent entity within Europe, but that's entirely another discussion altogether.
Edited by pcvdriver on Wednesday 16th July 02:25
Bear in mind, fellow UK citizens, that the likes of pcvdriver (and whatever other incarnations of nationalist appear) will say anything to make you dislike them, and dislike Scotland, as therefore being their dream of freedom closer.
The nationalist cause is a giant trolling expedition. See the main thread for details. Or the White Paper. Or anything Salmond has ever said.
The nationalist cause is a giant trolling expedition. See the main thread for details. Or the White Paper. Or anything Salmond has ever said.
pcvdriver said:
Personally - I think Northern Ireland would be better off as a separate independent entity within Europe, but that's entirely another discussion altogether.
Haha brilliant.Edited by pcvdriver on Wednesday 16th July 02:25
Some of them want to be in the UK, others want to be in the Republic of Ireland. Your solution is to piss of both groups.
I'll have a half pint if what you're on thanks
simoid said:
Haha brilliant.
Some of them want to be in the UK, others want to be in the Republic of Ireland. Your solution is to piss of both groups.
I'll have a half pint if what you're on thanks
So you agree with Foppo then? We should offer to return the Northern Ireland Counties back to Eire then.....let's face it, that idea will work really well (Not). As you quite correctly pointed out roughly half want to remain British, due to having British roots (even if most British people see them as Irish)......and Eire (or most people in Eire) don't want the North back......so that leaves the option for them to govern themselves.Some of them want to be in the UK, others want to be in the Republic of Ireland. Your solution is to piss of both groups.
I'll have a half pint if what you're on thanks
Neonblau said:
This thread seems to be filling with nat refugees from the main thread. Nothing new, nothing different no facts, no details.
Why is this still a separate thread?
Mods?
Then all the mats who have shown their true colours and got banned from the main thread will have nowhere to peddle the myth of us Scots being a occupied country and once free of the successful shackles of the UK will become a free basket case country with blue face paint for all. Why is this still a separate thread?
Mods?
A.J.M said:
Then all the mats who have shown their true colours and got banned from the main thread will have nowhere to peddle the myth of us Scots being a occupied country and once free of the successful shackles of the UK will become a free basket case country with blue face paint for all.
Maybe you're right. After all PH is probably just another facet of 300 year old brutal English oppression. Neonblau said:
A.J.M said:
Then all the mats who have shown their true colours and got banned from the main thread will have nowhere to peddle the myth of us Scots being a occupied country and once free of the successful shackles of the UK will become a free basket case country with blue face paint for all.
Maybe you're right. After all PH is probably just another facet of 300 year old brutal English oppression. With your Tory powered Tvrs and how Cameron personally signs all JLR cars that come north!
As a Scot and a No supporter have to admit i honestly don't care what happens to Scotland if a Yes vote is successful as i'll be jumping ship before it copies the Concordia.
I know for a fact a yes vote will leave me without a job, as the nature of my employers business relies on UK legislation to operate.
So Far Salmond's given nothing but magic numbers that daft munter
Nicola Sturgeon makes up in her head. We don't even know if we can get into the EU without a fight from the Spanish, Belgians or Dutch. We don't know how our currency will work, trade agreements or even the basics like free movement as all UK passports held within Scotland will be void, as will Driving licenses and N.I Numbers.
Salmond just thinks if he waves enough tartan about it'll all sorted out and St Andrew himself will descend and take the Fat useless f
k to Haggis heaven.
I know for a fact a yes vote will leave me without a job, as the nature of my employers business relies on UK legislation to operate.
So Far Salmond's given nothing but magic numbers that daft munter
Nicola Sturgeon makes up in her head. We don't even know if we can get into the EU without a fight from the Spanish, Belgians or Dutch. We don't know how our currency will work, trade agreements or even the basics like free movement as all UK passports held within Scotland will be void, as will Driving licenses and N.I Numbers. Salmond just thinks if he waves enough tartan about it'll all sorted out and St Andrew himself will descend and take the Fat useless f
k to Haggis heaven.
VeeDubBigBird said:
As a Scot and a No supporter have to admit i honestly don't care what happens to Scotland if a Yes vote is successful as i'll be jumping ship before it copies the Concordia.
I know for a fact a yes vote will leave me without a job, as the nature of my employers business relies on UK legislation to operate.
So Far Salmond's given nothing but magic numbers that daft munter Nicola Sturgeon makes up in her head. We don't even know if we can get into the EU without a fight from the Spanish, Belgians or Dutch. We don't know how our currency will work, trade agreements or even the basics like free movement as all UK passports held within Scotland will be void, as will Driving licenses and N.I Numbers.
Salmond just thinks if he waves enough tartan about it'll all sorted out and St Andrew himself will descend and take the Fat useless fk to Haggis heaven.
you better do it quick cuz if your not in the EU you will need a visa to get into most countrys, and they wont be easy to get, on a bongo bongo passportI know for a fact a yes vote will leave me without a job, as the nature of my employers business relies on UK legislation to operate.
So Far Salmond's given nothing but magic numbers that daft munter
Nicola Sturgeon makes up in her head. We don't even know if we can get into the EU without a fight from the Spanish, Belgians or Dutch. We don't know how our currency will work, trade agreements or even the basics like free movement as all UK passports held within Scotland will be void, as will Driving licenses and N.I Numbers. Salmond just thinks if he waves enough tartan about it'll all sorted out and St Andrew himself will descend and take the Fat useless f
k to Haggis heaven.pcvdriver said:
So you agree with Foppo then? We should offer to return the Northern Ireland Counties back to Eire then.....let's face it, that idea will work really well (Not). As you quite correctly pointed out roughly half want to remain British, due to having British roots (even if most British people see them as Irish)......and Eire (or most people in Eire) don't want the North back......so that leaves the option for them to govern themselves.
You're not from Northern Ireland, are you? It's painfully simplistic to say 'roughly half' want to remain British. An awful lot more than that, including a great many catholics, wish to remain part of the union. It's probably closer to 70/30, ideologically, and in the event of a vote, even greater again.People aren't stupid. They know what side their bread is buttered.
arp1 said:
No point in going over old ground as you know it will just be a screaming match ( my dicks bigger than your dick blah blah blah)... It's all up in the air and open to conjecture anyway so don't fret just vote as you will
Hardly "old ground" when the questions have never been answered, and I'm not sure why you think your dick's got anything to with it. Your response typifies the nats' duck, dodge and deflect approach to the tough questions.
"It's all up in the air" - really? We are two months out from a vote of massive importance to everyone in the UK and the best argument you have is that. This is the raison d'etre of the nationalist movement, has been for 80 years, and they don't have an answer. Really?
Don't fret? Try that approach with anyone in farming, fishing, defence, financial services or relies on a state pension and see how far you get.
An easier way is just to say "I'm sorry, I haven't a clue".
simoid said:
doogz said:
Willy Hill are giving 4/1 on a 'yes' outcome.
You putting a few quid on it?
Probably prudent, in terms of maximisation of worst outcome, to put 20% of everything I own on a yes vote, then.You putting a few quid on it?
As lets be honest if it is a YES win then we have just lost our house and jobs
so losing the savings as well isn't that much worse
iphonedyou said:
pcvdriver said:
So you agree with Foppo then? We should offer to return the Northern Ireland Counties back to Eire then.....let's face it, that idea will work really well (Not). As you quite correctly pointed out roughly half want to remain British, due to having British roots (even if most British people see them as Irish)......and Eire (or most people in Eire) don't want the North back......so that leaves the option for them to govern themselves.
You're not from Northern Ireland, are you? It's painfully simplistic to say 'roughly half' want to remain British. An awful lot more than that, including a great many catholics, wish to remain part of the union. It's probably closer to 70/30, ideologically, and in the event of a vote, even greater again.People aren't stupid. They know what side their bread is buttered.
pcvdriver said:
I was merely pointing out the glaring anomaly of Foppo's reply - but yet you don't have issue with that......interesting
No you weren't.You said:
"Personally - I think Northern Ireland would be better off as a separate independent entity"
We're just pointing out we disagree with that, and some reasons why.
Neonblau said:
A.J.M said:
Then all the mats who have shown their true colours and got banned from the main thread will have nowhere to peddle the myth of us Scots being a occupied country and once free of the successful shackles of the UK will become a free basket case country with blue face paint for all.
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