Malaysian Airlines 777 down on Ukraine / Russia Border?

[AreOut]

there is mobile satellite Internet, slow and expensive but enough to check flight radar

also russian professional operators would know it wouldn't be a military aircraft if they had the information about 35K altitude

@Mojo

handed to them and explained them the basics, it's relatively simple system and fairly easy to use, the problem is that in situations like this experience plays the role

[Mojocvh]

So you support the ongoing Russian operations to usurp democratically elected democracies around it's borders then.

Glad we got that clear.

[AreOut]

how did you get it from my post?

[scherzkeks]

AreOut said:

how did you get it from my post?

He didn't get that from your post. He employs the language typically used to describe the truth of the US-backed coup in Ukraine to depose a sitting democratically elected president for the purpose of accessing petrochemical resources and opening the Ukraine to predatory capitalism.

It's some odd form of reverse projection and is best ignored or laughed at.

[Transmitter Man]

'If' Yanukovych stole money from the Ukraine people what do you think should of happened to him and how would you have implemented any punishment?

Question for Are Out & Scherz.

Phil

[Mojocvh]

scherzkeks said:

AreOut said:

how did you get it from my post?

He didn't get that from your post. He employs the language typically used to describe the truth of the US-backed coup in Ukraine to depose a sitting democratically elected president for the purpose of accessing petrochemical resources and opening the Ukraine to predatory capitalism.

It's some odd form of reverse projection and is best ignored or laughed at.

So you support the ongoing Russian operations to usurp democratically elected democracies around it's borders then.

Glad we got that clear.

[AreOut]

Yanukovich was also democratically elected.

[Mojocvh]

AreOut said:

Yanukovich was also democratically elected.

Yes that is correct. Then he syphoned billions to Putin.

[CorbynFTW]

scherzkeks said:

AreOut said:

how did you get it from my post?

He didn't get that from your post. He employs the language typically used to describe the truth of the US-backed coup in Ukraine to depose a sitting democratically elected president for the purpose of accessing petrochemical resources and opening the Ukraine to predatory capitalism.

It's some odd form of reverse projection and is best ignored or laughed at.

He has been 'on one' today

[Mojocvh]

CorbynFTW said:

scherzkeks said:

AreOut said:

how did you get it from my post?

He didn't get that from your post. He employs the language typically used to describe the truth of the US-backed coup in Ukraine to depose a sitting democratically elected president for the purpose of accessing petrochemical resources and opening the Ukraine to predatory capitalism.

It's some odd form of reverse projection and is best ignored or laughed at.

He has been 'on one' today

I might be mistaken, but have you posted on this topic before?

Or are you upset at having your arse handed to you on the Janner thread you are resorting to trespassing where BEARS dare?

[CorbynFTW]

the internet warrior has spoken.

[Mojocvh]

You have a steadily reducing credibility, I have no wish to interfere with that process..please feel free to carry on...

[CorbynFTW]

Mojocvh said:

You have a steadily reducing credibility, I have no wish to interfere with that process..please feel free to carry on...

I like you. Especially how you just quit trying to make your point on the other thread. Integrity.

Nighty night.


P.s everyone knows it was the CIA!

[Transmitter Man]

AreOut said:

Yanukovich was also democratically elected.

You did not answer my question.

Phil

[AreOut]

Transmitter Man said:

'If' Yanukovych stole money from the Ukraine people what do you think should of happened to him and how would you have implemented any punishment?

Question for Are Out & Scherz.

Phil

Yanukovych didn't steal any (significantly) more money than Poroshenko, do you really think you could become a billionare legally in a corrupted state like Ukraine?!

[skyrover]

bks... Yankukovych was stealing so much it was actually impacting state GDP

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/30/us-ukrai...

[scherzkeks]

Transmitter Man said:

You did not answer my question.

Phil

Your question has nothing to do with the US-backed coup to depose a sitting democratically elected president.


Scherzkeks

[Transmitter Man]

scherzkeks said:

Your question has nothing to do with the US-backed coup to depose a sitting democratically elected president.


Scherzkeks

I thought I was asking too much to expect a direct answer to a direct question anyways.

Nice diversion Sherks.

Phil

[Nikolai Petroff]

AreOut said:

I think professional russian operators would have the means to check if it was a civilian aircraft even without separate radar. More likely it was just handed to rebels with only a basic training and that was the main problem.

The BUK is hard to operate. It's 1960's tech with vacuum tubes etc. It takes too long to train somebody to use it. As I said, it is possible to have proper IFF but that requires a separate vehicle with another radar. The basic BUK launcher has a fairly basic radar.

[Nikolai Petroff]

AreOut said:

there is mobile satellite Internet, slow and expensive but enough to check flight radar

also russian professional operators would know it wouldn't be a military aircraft if they had the information about 35K altitude

@Mojo

handed to them and explained them the basics, it's relatively simple system and fairly easy to use, the problem is that in situations like this experience plays the role

US shot down the Iranian airliner by mistake and it was a ship full of radars and operators. Russian army soldiers are not some supermen with 100% situational awareness etc. The know how to operate the BUK sistem and that's it. They saw a contact and were impatient to shoot it down and get a medal. Simple as that.