Malaysian Airlines 777 down on Ukraine / Russia Border?

[Cobnapint]

They're struggling to co-ordinate their lies at the moment. They are that confused that someone will eventually blurt out the truth, believing it to be another lie.

Then we'll ALL be confused.

[scherzkeks]

Meh, I'm waiting for the JIT report. That's going to be the high in this spectacle. Particularly when one takes into consideraiton the fact that Ukraine, obviously a suspect in this crime, are serving as co-investigators. You couldn't make this stuff up.

[skyrover]

Cobnapint said:

They're struggling to co-ordinate their lies at the moment. They are that confused that someone will eventually blurt out the truth, believing it to be another lie.

Then we'll ALL be confused.

Everyone apart from Scherzkeks obviously

Anyone think he's been emailing ideas to Putin's office?

Edited by skyrover on Sunday 18th October 08:16

[skyrover]

Well the Dutch led, International Joint Investigation Team has published it's findings and has pointed the finger definitely at a missile which originated in Russia.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-37495067



Russia is of course having none of it and has published new evidence, which interestingly enough claims previous Russian evidence was untrue. You couldn't make it up.

https://www.bellingcat.com/news/uk-and-europe/2016...

[greygoose]

Seems pretty obvious it was a Russian missile but Putin and co will just say it wasn't and wait for the affair to go away. How anyone believes the Russian official version of anything is beyond me.

[Cobnapint]

greygoose said:

Seems pretty obvious it was a Russian missile but Putin and co will just say it wasn't and wait for the affair to go away. How anyone believes the Russian official version of anything is beyond me.

Scherzkeks will be along in a minute, don't worry.

[DamienB]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsokGIeQFFI&fe...

[Wozy68]

[redacted]

[dudleybloke]

Press conference by the makers of the BUK system. 70 mins long.

http://youtu.be/JbIPo8dW9b0

[scherzkeks]

dudleybloke said:

Press conference by the makers of the BUK system. 70 mins long.

http://youtu.be/JbIPo8dW9b0

Yep. Forget Cold War 2.0; seems US is bent on actual war. And the bovine masses are pumped and primed.

[Zod]

greygoose said:

Seems pretty obvious it was a Russian missile but Putin and co will just say it wasn't and wait for the affair to go away. How anyone believes the Russian official version of anything is beyond me.

Scherzkeks does, but then he also believes that WTC7 was brought down by the US government.



Scherzkeks

[DMN]

scherzkeks said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

Is all I see when I read your posts.

[scherzkeks]

DMN said:

scherzkeks said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

Is all I see when I read your posts.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism

https://theintercept.com/2016/08/08/dems-tactic-of...

Ready the nukes, nutters!

[ATG]

scherzkeks said:

DMN said:

scherzkeks said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

Is all I see when I read your posts.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism

https://theintercept.com/2016/08/08/dems-tactic-of...

Ready the nukes, nutters!

You need help

[Gandahar]

This is pretty damning words from a respected source

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/opinion...

[slartibartfast]

[redacted]

[Cobnapint]

Gandahar said:

This is pretty damning words from a respected source

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/opinion...

Damning words indeed, and very true. But in the great scheme of things, totally ineffectual.

Russia has been lying to it's own people and getting away with it for so long now, it thinks it can carry on doing it to everybody else without getting found out.

The trouble is, modern technology has gifted the worlds media and intelligence services with all the tools necessary to expose the vast majority of Russian governmental statements for what they truly are.

Recent interviews on the streets of Moscow highlight the fact that the Russian population are the only ones still in the dark - their only source of information being propaganda being fed out of state-owned media outlets. Anybody who tries to give a contrary opinion knows they'll end up getting a 'visit' or worse, so nobody says a dicky bird.

It was pitiful to see Lavrov today saying how much care the Russian AF took to avoid harming civilians in Aleppo.

Edited by Cobnapint on Friday 30th September 21:26

[Zod]

Cobnapint said:

Gandahar said:

This is pretty damning words from a respected source

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/opinion...

Damning words indeed, and very true. But in the great scheme of things, totally ineffectual.

Russia has been lying to it's own people and getting away with it for so long now, it thinks it can carry on doing it to everybody else without getting found out.

The trouble is, modern technology has gifted the worlds media and intelligence services with all the tools necessary to expose the vast majority of Russian governmental statements for what they truly are.

Recent interviews on the streets of Moscow highlight the fact that the Russian population are the only ones still in the dark - their only source of information being propaganda being fed out of state-owned media outlets. Anybody who tries to give a contrary opinion knows they'll end up getting a 'visit' or worse, so nobody says a dicky bird.

It was pitiful to see Lavrov today saying how much care the Russian AF took to avoid harming civilians in Aleppo.

Edited by Cobnapint on Friday 30th September 21:26

well said.

[AreOut]

it's ukrainians that sent the plane through a war-torn area full of SAMs, they share the responsibility

[Cobnapint]

Yep. It's all Ukraine's fault.

They provided the field in which the BUK was fired from too. Russia is totally in the clear.