Malaysian Airlines 777 down on Ukraine / Russia Border?
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Oh dear - they're already on to Oleg:
https://www.bellingcat.com/news/uk-and-europe/2018...
(Note to self: when annexing a neighbouring country and bringing in anti-aircraft missiles, try not to leave my phone numbers online.)
https://www.bellingcat.com/news/uk-and-europe/2018...
(Note to self: when annexing a neighbouring country and bringing in anti-aircraft missiles, try not to leave my phone numbers online.)
Welshbeef said:
Does anyone know how long he search for the plane in Chillie went on back in the 1950/60's? It was discovered a few years ago as the glacier and spat it out at the end.
Possibly will be a similar outcome or not even in our lifetime.
That was interesting ... headwinds were so strong they descended straight into the Andes after thinking they had cleared the mountain range.... basically a CFIT.Possibly will be a similar outcome or not even in our lifetime.
Russia wasn't involved in the investigation so it definitely wasn't them.
http://news.sky.com/story/putin-dismisses-mh17-fin...
http://news.sky.com/story/putin-dismisses-mh17-fin...
Escapegoat said:
Today's other Putin News is that he definitely will NOT stand for President next time. I wonder if Medvedev's available for seat-warming duties...
I don't think he'll be in the frame. Putin will already have an idea who he wants to 'democratically' appoint. It'll be another upcoming little big-shot like himself. Somebody with a bit of 'experience' in the mobster factory that is the FSB.Medvedev is the current Prime Minister and is clearly Putin's puppet but I'm not sure that he would be the successor (at least in the the long term, he might get another seat warming presidency). There was a rumour a few years ago that Putin wanted his bodyguard to succeed him but as the person had no political experience he would have to be installed in some organisation/region to gain some credibility. I forget the name but it was the guy who Putin tasked with extracting Viktor Yanukovych from Ukraine.
Might be:
Alexey Rubezhnoy - head of the SBP (Presidential Security Service) since 2016.
Might be:
Alexey Rubezhnoy - head of the SBP (Presidential Security Service) since 2016.
I was (not very clearly) implying that Putin would just get another temp in to sit in the big seat for 4 years before he returned to the presidency. As yesterday, ,he simply said he will follow the Constitution rule which says "no more than two consecutive terms".
Medvedev is house-trained and knows which side his bread is buttered.
Medvedev is house-trained and knows which side his bread is buttered.
"For the first time since Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 was shot down in July 2014, prosecutors have announced charges against suspects in the case.
Three Russians and a Ukrainian have been charged with bringing a missile into the area in eastern Ukraine and with murdering 298 passengers and crew.
The passenger flight was en route from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur when it was shot down over conflict-hit Ukraine.
A court case will begin in the Netherlands on 9 March 2020.
International arrest warrants have been issued for the four men."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-48691488
Three Russians and a Ukrainian have been charged with bringing a missile into the area in eastern Ukraine and with murdering 298 passengers and crew.
The passenger flight was en route from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur when it was shot down over conflict-hit Ukraine.
A court case will begin in the Netherlands on 9 March 2020.
International arrest warrants have been issued for the four men."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-48691488
El stovey said:
Grim.
Horrific isn't it. Cockpit and and crew torn apart by shrapnel.
https://youtu.be/VwmlOFl9CXI
Ive said this befoer and will keep on saying it,
even said it to 3 MPs spouting off, they soon shut up
as could,nt respond with anything sensible
imagine a nice clear day, blue skys, patchy cloud,
good visibility for miles, hundreds of miles.
in the area of the so called BUK missile launch, there be 1000,s of folk about
most of them got a phone or camera device
But not one image, film clip , no eye witness of a missile launch, or what ever is out there of a missile in flight,
Now thee,s things are Bigg, and the smoke trail they leave is vast.
One can easily see a contrail of a Jet liner for hundreds of miles away
so why not see a missile,s, which is alot moer dense and darker than a Jets.
So how comes no one has shown a missile trail
No one can show me a missile trail
no missile trail, no missile, its as simple as that,
for the believers of the missile theory, please show a missile trail on that day
And, dont get it of Bellingcat, as That idiot showed a contingent of so called Buk launchers and attendant vehicles, saying this was proof of the systems in use in the area at the time,
most of the UK press run this, saying prof of the Russians missile use
It later transpired that it was a combine harvester, with 4 accompanying tractors reaping a harvest
No news retraction given as it did,nt fit the official story
even said it to 3 MPs spouting off, they soon shut up
as could,nt respond with anything sensible
imagine a nice clear day, blue skys, patchy cloud,
good visibility for miles, hundreds of miles.
in the area of the so called BUK missile launch, there be 1000,s of folk about
most of them got a phone or camera device
But not one image, film clip , no eye witness of a missile launch, or what ever is out there of a missile in flight,
Now thee,s things are Bigg, and the smoke trail they leave is vast.
One can easily see a contrail of a Jet liner for hundreds of miles away
so why not see a missile,s, which is alot moer dense and darker than a Jets.
So how comes no one has shown a missile trail
No one can show me a missile trail
no missile trail, no missile, its as simple as that,
for the believers of the missile theory, please show a missile trail on that day
And, dont get it of Bellingcat, as That idiot showed a contingent of so called Buk launchers and attendant vehicles, saying this was proof of the systems in use in the area at the time,
most of the UK press run this, saying prof of the Russians missile use
It later transpired that it was a combine harvester, with 4 accompanying tractors reaping a harvest
No news retraction given as it did,nt fit the official story
GT6M said:
Ive said this befoer and will keep on saying it,
even said it to 3 MPs spouting off, they soon shut up
as could,nt respond with anything sensible
imagine a nice clear day, blue skys, patchy cloud,
good visibility for miles, hundreds of miles.
in the area of the so called BUK missile launch, there be 1000,s of folk about
most of them got a phone or camera device
But not one image, film clip , no eye witness of a missile launch, or what ever is out there of a missile in flight,
Now thee,s things are Bigg, and the smoke trail they leave is vast.
One can easily see a contrail of a Jet liner for hundreds of miles away
so why not see a missile,s, which is alot moer dense and darker than a Jets.
So how comes no one has shown a missile trail
No one can show me a missile trail
no missile trail, no missile, its as simple as that,
for the believers of the missile theory, please show a missile trail on that day
And, dont get it of Bellingcat, as That idiot showed a contingent of so called Buk launchers and attendant vehicles, saying this was proof of the systems in use in the area at the time,
most of the UK press run this, saying prof of the Russians missile use
It later transpired that it was a combine harvester, with 4 accompanying tractors reaping a harvest
No news retraction given as it did,nt fit the official story
One thing: "One can easily see a contrail of a Jet liner for hundreds of miles away"even said it to 3 MPs spouting off, they soon shut up
as could,nt respond with anything sensible
imagine a nice clear day, blue skys, patchy cloud,
good visibility for miles, hundreds of miles.
in the area of the so called BUK missile launch, there be 1000,s of folk about
most of them got a phone or camera device
But not one image, film clip , no eye witness of a missile launch, or what ever is out there of a missile in flight,
Now thee,s things are Bigg, and the smoke trail they leave is vast.
One can easily see a contrail of a Jet liner for hundreds of miles away
so why not see a missile,s, which is alot moer dense and darker than a Jets.
So how comes no one has shown a missile trail
No one can show me a missile trail
no missile trail, no missile, its as simple as that,
for the believers of the missile theory, please show a missile trail on that day
And, dont get it of Bellingcat, as That idiot showed a contingent of so called Buk launchers and attendant vehicles, saying this was proof of the systems in use in the area at the time,
most of the UK press run this, saying prof of the Russians missile use
It later transpired that it was a combine harvester, with 4 accompanying tractors reaping a harvest
No news retraction given as it did,nt fit the official story
What the how now!? You have not seen contrails from hundreds of miles away.
Exactly how high do you think airliners fly?
GT6M said:
Ive said this befoer and will keep on saying it,
even said it to 3 MPs spouting off, they soon shut up
as could,nt respond with anything sensible
imagine a nice clear day, blue skys, patchy cloud,
good visibility for miles, hundreds of miles.
in the area of the so called BUK missile launch, there be 1000,s of folk about
most of them got a phone or camera device
But not one image, film clip , no eye witness of a missile launch, or what ever is out there of a missile in flight,
Now thee,s things are Bigg, and the smoke trail they leave is vast.
One can easily see a contrail of a Jet liner for hundreds of miles away
so why not see a missile,s, which is alot moer dense and darker than a Jets.
So how comes no one has shown a missile trail
No one can show me a missile trail
no missile trail, no missile, its as simple as that,
for the believers of the missile theory, please show a missile trail on that day
And, dont get it of Bellingcat, as That idiot showed a contingent of so called Buk launchers and attendant vehicles, saying this was proof of the systems in use in the area at the time,
most of the UK press run this, saying prof of the Russians missile use
It later transpired that it was a combine harvester, with 4 accompanying tractors reaping a harvest
No news retraction given as it did,nt fit the official story
1000s of folk about....?even said it to 3 MPs spouting off, they soon shut up
as could,nt respond with anything sensible
imagine a nice clear day, blue skys, patchy cloud,
good visibility for miles, hundreds of miles.
in the area of the so called BUK missile launch, there be 1000,s of folk about
most of them got a phone or camera device
But not one image, film clip , no eye witness of a missile launch, or what ever is out there of a missile in flight,
Now thee,s things are Bigg, and the smoke trail they leave is vast.
One can easily see a contrail of a Jet liner for hundreds of miles away
so why not see a missile,s, which is alot moer dense and darker than a Jets.
So how comes no one has shown a missile trail
No one can show me a missile trail
no missile trail, no missile, its as simple as that,
for the believers of the missile theory, please show a missile trail on that day
And, dont get it of Bellingcat, as That idiot showed a contingent of so called Buk launchers and attendant vehicles, saying this was proof of the systems in use in the area at the time,
most of the UK press run this, saying prof of the Russians missile use
It later transpired that it was a combine harvester, with 4 accompanying tractors reaping a harvest
No news retraction given as it did,nt fit the official story
WTF. It was just past the patch of land before you get to the donkey in the field in the middle of bloody nowhere FFS.
GT6M said:
Ive said this befoer and will keep on saying it,
even said it to 3 MPs spouting off, they soon shut up
as could,nt respond with anything sensible
imagine a nice clear day, blue skys, patchy cloud,
good visibility for miles, hundreds of miles.
in the area of the so called BUK missile launch, there be 1000,s of folk about
most of them got a phone or camera device
But not one image, film clip , no eye witness of a missile launch, or what ever is out there of a missile in flight,
Now thee,s things are Bigg, and the smoke trail they leave is vast.
One can easily see a contrail of a Jet liner for hundreds of miles away
so why not see a missile,s, which is alot moer dense and darker than a Jets.
So how comes no one has shown a missile trail
No one can show me a missile trail
no missile trail, no missile, its as simple as that,
for the believers of the missile theory, please show a missile trail on that day
And, dont get it of Bellingcat, as That idiot showed a contingent of so called Buk launchers and attendant vehicles, saying this was proof of the systems in use in the area at the time,
most of the UK press run this, saying prof of the Russians missile use
It later transpired that it was a combine harvester, with 4 accompanying tractors reaping a harvest
No news retraction given as it did,nt fit the official story
even said it to 3 MPs spouting off, they soon shut up
as could,nt respond with anything sensible
imagine a nice clear day, blue skys, patchy cloud,
good visibility for miles, hundreds of miles.
in the area of the so called BUK missile launch, there be 1000,s of folk about
most of them got a phone or camera device
But not one image, film clip , no eye witness of a missile launch, or what ever is out there of a missile in flight,
Now thee,s things are Bigg, and the smoke trail they leave is vast.
One can easily see a contrail of a Jet liner for hundreds of miles away
so why not see a missile,s, which is alot moer dense and darker than a Jets.
So how comes no one has shown a missile trail
No one can show me a missile trail
no missile trail, no missile, its as simple as that,
for the believers of the missile theory, please show a missile trail on that day
And, dont get it of Bellingcat, as That idiot showed a contingent of so called Buk launchers and attendant vehicles, saying this was proof of the systems in use in the area at the time,
most of the UK press run this, saying prof of the Russians missile use
It later transpired that it was a combine harvester, with 4 accompanying tractors reaping a harvest
No news retraction given as it did,nt fit the official story
How do you explain the inconvenient truths that wreckage of the plane was found peppered with BUK missile shrapnel shaped holes, there was said shrapnel pieces found embedded in the wreckage of the aircraft, as well as in the corpses of the flight crew. There are numerous other pieces of hard evidence categorically proving the link. Your counter is that you say there are no pics of a BUK rocket smoke trail out in the public domain, so it must be fake.
There are numerous such pictures of the rocket smoke trail out there that match the location and timing of the incident.It’s obvious why you were just fired from your job at a Russian Internet Troll farm.
Edited by dvs_dave on Friday 21st June 01:08
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