1st Manned Moon Landing - 45 Years Ago

1st Manned Moon Landing - 45 Years Ago

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Jimbeaux

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33,791 posts

231 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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Not many of these guys left; not that there were many to begin with:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jimclash/2014/07/18/wh...

EK993

1,925 posts

251 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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Can I be first to get in with - there was no moon landing.

rollondeath

317 posts

119 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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I blame the Russian's.

Jimbeaux

Original Poster:

33,791 posts

231 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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EK993 said:
Can I be first to get in with - there was no moon landing.
I bet myself how quickly that would come to fore.....I lost, you were too quick.

Jimbeaux

Original Poster:

33,791 posts

231 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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rollondeath said:
I blame the Russian's.
Funny aside, that is actually somewhat true. smile

Eric Mc

121,992 posts

265 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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Not quite - the landing was on 20th July.

pete a

3,799 posts

184 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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Never happened...

Eric Mc

121,992 posts

265 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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We shall ignore the dopes... they always turn up for these threads.

Ti be fair, it's quite a while since any raised their heads over the parapet on PH. Maybe this is a new batch of idiots, wanting to throw their imbecilic and moronic notions into the discussion.

V8 Fettler

7,019 posts

132 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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Mars by 1980?

Eric Mc

121,992 posts

265 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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V8 Fettler said:
Mars by 1980?
Would have been nice but it was never likely. Mars by 2000 was well within the capability of NASA - but only with silly funding levels - which they were never going to get.

Fort Jefferson

8,237 posts

222 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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Eric Mc said:
V8 Fettler said:
Mars by 1980?
Would have been nice but it was never likely. Mars by 2000 was well within the capability of NASA - but only with silly funding levels - which they were never going to get.
Only because it had no military value.

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 19th July 2014
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Fort Jefferson said:
Eric Mc said:
V8 Fettler said:
Mars by 1980?
Would have been nice but it was never likely. Mars by 2000 was well within the capability of NASA - but only with silly funding levels - which they were never going to get.
Only because it had no military value.
They found $6000bn for Iraq and Afganistan which had no military value either wink

Eric Mc

121,992 posts

265 months

Saturday 19th July 2014
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Fort Jefferson said:
Eric Mc said:
V8 Fettler said:
Mars by 1980?
Would have been nice but it was never likely. Mars by 2000 was well within the capability of NASA - but only with silly funding levels - which they were never going to get.
Only because it had no military value.
Apollo was not actually a military project. It was a political and propaganda project. So, its military value (even if there was some) was not the defining reason for its instigation. The same would have been true for a Mars project.

What killed any ambitious post Apollo projects was the state of the American economy in 1970 which had been severely weakened by the much more expensive Vietnam War.

Also, the Cold War was thawing a bit by then and public support for such large scale propaganda projects had reduced dramatically.

gpo746

3,397 posts

130 months

Saturday 19th July 2014
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I remember when I was in school and the teacher tried to explain about Apollo 13.
Don't have too many early memories but that was one.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

284 months

Saturday 19th July 2014
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Jimbeaux said:
rollondeath said:
I blame the Russian's.
Funny aside, that is actually somewhat true. smile
The US was already going, the Russians just hurried it along.

DJRC

23,563 posts

236 months

Saturday 19th July 2014
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There was no point in going to Mars by 2000. Very little would have been gained for expending a lot of money. All the "gains" that could have been made were achieved by the ISS work. Speccing designing and building. Environmental wise Mars specs are far exceeded by subsequent missions ongoing. Going to Mars now and carrying out scientific work is valid as the cost has been ameliorated over the last 20yrs on different missions which have provided/proofed the techs n specs.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

284 months

Saturday 19th July 2014
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There was a plan for a manned flyby of Venus.

speedyman

1,525 posts

234 months

Saturday 19th July 2014
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I remember staying up watching the actual landing on tv, then having a long wait until they finally opened the hatch door, decended the ladder an then came the famous sentence. " That's one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind"

speedyman

Eric Mc

121,992 posts

265 months

Saturday 19th July 2014
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True - with hindsight.

But back in 1969 NASA was flush with success and they had a very useful ally in the US Vice-President, Spiro Agnew.

It seemed NASA could get whatever they wanted.

What they and Agnew hadn't realised was that the public mood had changed utterly since 1961 and that there was no way the necessary funds would be granted by Congress.
The very ambitious "Agnew Plan" was announced in 1970 and consisted of -

A manned landing on Mars (by 1985 actually)
A permanently manned space station by 1980
A Space Shuttle system to supply the station
A permanently manned base on the moon by 1980
A Lunar Tug vehicle for transferring men and equipment from earth orbit to the moon

The plan was more or less cancelled in full by 1981 with only the Space Shuttle remaining

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 19th July 2014
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Eric Mc said:
We shall ignore the dopes... they always turn up for these threads.

Ti be fair, it's quite a while since any raised their heads over the parapet on PH. Maybe this is a new batch of idiots, wanting to throw their imbecilic and moronic notions into the discussion.
They are moronic s.

Thousands of men and women dedicated their entire lives to the science of space travel, and in many cases, actually gave their lives, all so that we would learn, discover and explore as a race.

But no, these brain dead tts just want to flush all that down the toilet in one stupidity-laden statement.