Tesco - another fail

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BoRED S2upid

19,700 posts

240 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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You have to love the doom and gloom that surround Tesco and their plumeting profits some industry experts even thought their profits would fall below £3BILLION last year!

I'm sure many businesses would be quite happy with such a rubbish set of results!

They lost their way years ago when people realised their super offers were actually rubbish offers. Far too many buy 2 for £2 or one for £1.50 type offers. They could compete with Aldi and Lidl if they wanted to by cutting their prices overnight. Be interesting to see what the new boss brings to the party.

Camoradi

4,289 posts

256 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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BoRED S2upid said:
Be interesting to see what the new boss brings to the party.
The party has been cancelled smile

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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crankedup said:
Pappa Lurve said:
crankedup said:
Following another three years of poor and falling profits the C.E.O. has thrown in the towel. Will he be passing back all the incentives offered to turn around the mighty Titanic that is Tesco's, of course not! It used to be a relative doddle to run decent profits year on year back pre 2008, now the market is far more challenging we see the true 'worth' of so called 'top people' without whom nobody would have a job rolleyes Forward thinking long term strategies, they couldn't have done much worse.
If it is so easy to do those kind of jobs, may I enquire as to why they didn't hire you?
Why they didn't hire me you ask, odd thing to ask. However, simply to satisfy your strange curiosity sadly the answer is terminally boring. I had zero interest in working for such an organisation.
It seems a natural thing to ask, as it appears from your incisive criticism that you know where the issues are and what to do about them.

So, what should they be doing?


mgtony

4,019 posts

190 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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Tesco pricing from the weekend, 6 pack Heinz Baked Beans on special reduced from £3.61 to £3, regular 4 pack £2. Digestives £1.09 buy 2 for £2 twin pack £1.89. Buy a couple of bits in there and everything else cheaper in Iceland. biggrin

toppstuff

13,698 posts

247 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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mgtony said:
Tesco pricing from the weekend, 6 pack Heinz Baked Beans on special reduced from £3.61 to £3, regular 4 pack £2. Digestives £1.09 buy 2 for £2 twin pack £1.89. Buy a couple of bits in there and everything else cheaper in Iceland. biggrin
Thats just dishonest. Scumbags.

0000

13,812 posts

191 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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Massive retailer's massive profits are less massive in an economic downturn. Shocker.

shoestring7

6,138 posts

246 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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toppstuff said:
mgtony said:
Tesco pricing from the weekend, 6 pack Heinz Baked Beans on special reduced from £3.61 to £3, regular 4 pack £2. Digestives £1.09 buy 2 for £2 twin pack £1.89. Buy a couple of bits in there and everything else cheaper in Iceland. biggrin
Thats just dishonest. Scumbags.
I think its just incompetence or a systematic inability to track the impact on pricing on tens of thousands of SKUs when a category manager decides to spend their promotional budget on an offer.

SS7

oyster

12,595 posts

248 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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Slyjoe said:
I find their pricing deceitful - for example; bagged Jersey potatoes could be 1.76 per kg, but next to them would be loose potatoes of the same variety would be 19p per 100g - of course I can work that one out, but to me its deliberate mis-direction.
Also, if I see another member of staff in uniform following their mate who's about to do reductions and grabbing all of it I swear I will go postal.
Generally the staff are too busy chatting to their mates when I need alcohol authorised at the self service, and those f@cking machines drive my potty anyway.
Tesco has all but killed so many town centres.

All in all I hope they go horribly bust.
Presumably you'll be ok paying the unemployment benefits of the 300,000 staff in that scenario?

drivin_me_nuts

17,949 posts

211 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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I can't help but wonder if this is the beginning of the decline of Tesco. They can't compete with asda/Wal-Mart price (but can any), the yummy mummies have discovered they like Aldi and Lidl and sainsburys, waitrose and M&S have distinct usp's.

What I find interesting is that there is a whole generation of students growing up who only shop in Lidl and Aldi... And as the big companies know, loyalty to cheap prices and habit is hard to break. There is more at play than the present... I wonder if Tesco are taking a good long hard stare at M&S clothing, thinking could the same thing happen to them. Kids follow their parents, but the kids now like Aldi and Lidl. I think Tesco have real reason to worry for their future.

DoubleSix

11,715 posts

176 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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500,000+ Staff

oyster

12,595 posts

248 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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toppstuff said:
mgtony said:
Tesco pricing from the weekend, 6 pack Heinz Baked Beans on special reduced from £3.61 to £3, regular 4 pack £2. Digestives £1.09 buy 2 for £2 twin pack £1.89. Buy a couple of bits in there and everything else cheaper in Iceland. biggrin
Thats just dishonest. Scumbags.
How is that dishonest?
I suspect the digestives offer is on a number of different items anyway.

sleep envy

62,260 posts

249 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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drivin_me_nuts said:
I can't help but wonder if this is the beginning of the decline of Tesco. They can't compete with asda/Wal-Mart price (but can any), the yummy mummies have discovered they like Aldi and Lidl and sainsburys, waitrose and M&S have distinct usp's.

What I find interesting is that there is a whole generation of students growing up who only shop in Lidl and Aldi... And as the big companies know, loyalty to cheap prices and habit is hard to break. There is more at play than the present... I wonder if Tesco are taking a good long hard stare at M&S clothing, thinking could the same thing happen to them. Kids follow their parents, but the kids now like Aldi and Lidl. I think Tesco have real reason to worry for their future.
Considering that they're being pushed to build housing on their land bank I do hope so.

Awful, grotty retailer.

pcvdriver

1,819 posts

199 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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Fotic said:
Pappa Lurve said:
crankedup said:
Following another three years of poor and falling profits the C.E.O. has thrown in the towel. Will he be passing back all the incentives offered to turn around the mighty Titanic that is Tesco's, of course not! It used to be a relative doddle to run decent profits year on year back pre 2008, now the market is far more challenging we see the true 'worth' of so called 'top people' without whom nobody would have a job rolleyes Forward thinking long term strategies, they couldn't have done much worse.
If it is so easy to do those kind of jobs, may I enquire as to why they didn't hire you?
Is it not possible for someone to criticise someone/thing without a poster immediately saying 'if it's that easy, why don't you do it??'? We see a lot of it on PH and it's quite bizarre - you're effectively arguing the case of the person/thing but without any substance.
To use the words of a 3 certain bumbling idiot(s) at the BBC "How hard can it be?" Imagine the japes as Jeremy tries to "fix" things with a hammer....... laugh

BoRED S2upid

19,700 posts

240 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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drivin_me_nuts said:
I can't help but wonder if this is the beginning of the decline of Tesco. They can't compete with asda/Wal-Mart price (but can any), .
Pretty sure they could if the wanted to if would be one hell of a price war which I'd be happy to participate in shopping at the cheapest every week.

They are stuck in the middle at the moment and are big enough to go in whichever direction the new boss wants. Or stick it out with the current profits.

They could also max out the benefits of club card points people love something for nothing.

Jasandjules

69,889 posts

229 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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We stopped using them when they put stores on too many High Streets ruining them (IMHO).


sleep envy

62,260 posts

249 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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Jasandjules said:
We stopped using them when they put stores on too many High Streets ruining them (IMHO).
May 2009 for me. Not looked back.

wolves_wanderer

12,387 posts

237 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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heppers75 said:
Moominho said:
Slaav said:
Any comments on the rumoured £10M payoff?

Or was he simply bright enough to pick the Chalice up and refuse to drink the poison after holding it for a while?
It's a lot of money for someone who has overseen some pretty poor performance over the last few years, however he has been with the company for nigh on 40 years so some compensation is probably deserved.

It's probably worth bearing in mind that as struggling and poor-performing as Tesco are, they are still the biggest supermarket in the country and make a profit of over 3 billion quid a year. It's hardly Ratners.
Oh no don't you start using actual facts... tut tut... Crankedup will be along to tell you what an evil evil man the CEO is and how he should live in a hovel and be thankful for his workers and they should be walking on rose petals and bathing in fresh sows milk whilst he genuflects at their mere desire to work for his company!

Never mind the man worked his way up from the shop floor and in fact as a shelf stacker and in turn gave 40 years of his life to the company, that is irrelevant... he earns "too much" said "too much" being based on some unfathomable equation not actually capable of being articulated. That is simply the only trigger for this entire thread.

Edited by heppers75 on Tuesday 22 July 00:27
I'm sure your forelock-tugging is plenty for him.

Dracoro

8,683 posts

245 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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oyster said:
Slyjoe said:
I find their pricing deceitful - for example; bagged Jersey potatoes could be 1.76 per kg, but next to them would be loose potatoes of the same variety would be 19p per 100g - of course I can work that one out, but to me its deliberate mis-direction.
Also, if I see another member of staff in uniform following their mate who's about to do reductions and grabbing all of it I swear I will go postal.
Generally the staff are too busy chatting to their mates when I need alcohol authorised at the self service, and those f@cking machines drive my potty anyway.
Tesco has all but killed so many town centres.

All in all I hope they go horribly bust.
Presumably you'll be ok paying the unemployment benefits of the 300,000 staff in that scenario?
But if Tesco collapsed (it won't but...) then other supermarkets would then get all the customers. To satisfy that demand they'd need a heck of lot more staff (and stores), possibly run by companies that employ a higher number of staff per store/customers so could end up with MORE employment.

maxrider1

91 posts

212 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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dxg said:
I've never had a problem with Tescos. The huge store round here has got nice, friendly staff - it's the locals from the sink estate next door that are the problem...
Bradgate said:
Do you live in the north Leicester area, by any chance? smile
My first thought too - Beaumont Leys!

sleep envy

62,260 posts

249 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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Dracoro said:
But if Tesco collapsed (it won't but...) then other supermarkets would then get all the customers. To satisfy that demand they'd need a heck of lot more staff (and stores), possibly run by companies that employ a higher number of staff per store/customers so could end up with MORE employment.
The competitors would buy the stores much like when morrisons bought out safeways