Plane crash in Taiwan

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Urban Sports

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11,321 posts

202 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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Just came up as an alert, dozens feared killed as it failed to make an emergency landing!

Urban Sports

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202 months

Legend83

9,947 posts

221 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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Bloody hell.

This week is doing nothing for my fear of flying.

Campo

10,773 posts

196 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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Urban Sports said:
Just came up as an alert
What does this mean?

Urban Sports

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202 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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Campo said:
Urban Sports said:
Just came up as an alert
What does this mean?
A breaking news alert on my phone.

Campo

10,773 posts

196 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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Is that an app you use? Sounds quite handy.

Urban Sports

Original Poster:

11,321 posts

202 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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Campo said:
Is that an app you use? Sounds quite handy.
Yep I have the sky news and bbc apps set up to alert me whenever there is a breaking news story.

Campo

10,773 posts

196 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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Ta very much

toohuge

3,430 posts

215 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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Legend83 said:
Bloody hell.

This week is doing nothing for my fear of flying.
Agree me too.

I'm just waiting for the usual 'You are more likely to be struck by lighting than be involved in a plane crash' brigade. But I don't stand outside for 10 hours in a thunderstorm....

Chris

Mephistofleas

1,385 posts

189 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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toohuge said:
Agree me too.

I'm just waiting for the usual 'You are more likely to be struck by lighting than be involved in a plane crash' brigade. But I don't stand outside for 10 hours in a thunderstorm....

Chris
UK planes haven't had a fatal one since 1989 and the scenario there was so daft that it should never ever repeat. It's still ridiculously low odds even on the dodgiest of carriers so get gone on hols biggrin

I used to be scensoredt scared and it took a few years of self therapy to rationalise and eventually get over the fear, so I fully understand how sick it can make people feel.

onyx39

11,109 posts

149 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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Really odd the way air crashes always seem to happen in multiples, or is that just my imagination?

BHC

17,540 posts

178 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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Mephistofleas said:
UK planes haven't had a fatal one since 1989 and the scenario there was so daft that it should never ever repeat. It's still ridiculously low odds even on the dodgiest of carriers so get gone on hols biggrin

I used to be scensoredt scared and it took a few years of self therapy to rationalise and eventually get over the fear, so I fully understand how sick it can make people feel.
Do you mean planes operated by UK airlines or planes in the UK?

Moonhawk

10,730 posts

218 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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onyx39 said:
Really odd the way air crashes always seem to happen in multiples, or is that just my imagination?
It's human nature - we are geared to see patterns.

However - randomness is inherently lumpy. I'd be more concerned if planes came down routinely once every couple of months.

Mephistofleas

1,385 posts

189 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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BHC said:
Mephistofleas said:
UK planes haven't had a fatal one since 1989 and the scenario there was so daft that it should never ever repeat. It's still ridiculously low odds even on the dodgiest of carriers so get gone on hols biggrin

I used to be scensoredt scared and it took a few years of self therapy to rationalise and eventually get over the fear, so I fully understand how sick it can make people feel.
Do you mean planes operated by UK airlines or planes in the UK?
Operated by 'big' UK carriers with 'big' planes is the best way I can put it.

Appreciate a few foreign carriers have managed a few fatals on our soil as well as a few of our smaller domestic carriers such as LoganAir (who could singlehandedly blow my assertion out the water paperbag)...

-Z-

5,980 posts

205 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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Moonhawk said:
It's human nature - we are geared to see patterns.

However - randomness is inherently lumpy. I'd be more concerned if planes came down routinely once every couple of months.
More that its judged as more newsworthy and hence more visible following MH17/MH370.

This time last year it would have been buried on a regional news page.

Crafty_

13,248 posts

199 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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Legend83 said:
Bloody hell.

This week is doing nothing for my fear of flying.
Just consider that your chances of being in a crash are decreasing smile

V41LEY

2,889 posts

237 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Crafty_ said:
Legend83 said:
Bloody hell.

This week is doing nothing for my fear of flying.
Just consider that your chances of being in a crash are decreasing smile
Surely it"s a fear of crashing rather than a fear of flying. Flying is inherently safe - crashing less so !!

Anyway, another ATR down. They do seem to crash quite frequently. Is it the aircraft design or the environment they
operate in ? I flew on a couple in Myanmar this year. You seem to land at an incredible speed with a lot of roll but that might
just be the ground effect as you skim in over the mountains / water etc.

anonymous-user

53 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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V41LEY said:
Anyway, another ATR down. They do seem to crash quite frequently. Is it the aircraft design or the environment they
operate in ?
The ATR(s) are susceptible to icing problems, unstable in crosswinds and have a narrow track undercarriage which makes them hard to handle in windy conditions on the ground. Apart from that they're great. hehe

Seriously though. I expect it's more to do with the airlines in question and the pilots operating them.

stain

1,051 posts

209 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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I used to maintain the ATR. Not nice to work on and not an aircraft I would ever fly on either.

Eric Mc

121,783 posts

264 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Never been a big fan of the ATR series. However, they are still a basically safe aircraft. Because of the nature of the routes on which many are operated - short, feederline type, they are a bit more exposed to the circumstances in which accidents sometimes occur - icing, more landing and takeoffs, operating in and out of less well equipped airports etc.