US: 'Pregnant' intruder shot dead by home owner

US: 'Pregnant' intruder shot dead by home owner

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Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

232 months

Saturday 2nd August 2014
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croyde said:
Randy Winkman said:
Here's some good anti-gun stuff (Kids and Guns). And not even on the BBC. Some real sickeners on it - though there is at least a nice bit where the ex-army bloke admits he made a bit of a mistake. And to be fair, the few professionals/experts on it actally seem reasonably sensible.

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/kids-and-guns
The 4 year old girl getting a rifle for her birthday. She's more interested in popping the plastic that protected it in the box. Don't blame her at that age.
Many of us were raised at a young age to handle and respect weapons. We never ended up shooting anyone. It taught us responsibility and respect for their handling. That said, 10-12 was usually that age; 4 is absurd.

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

232 months

Saturday 2nd August 2014
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Randy Winkman said:
jimbop1 said:
America does a lot of things wrongly but it does do the odd thing well...This is one one them.

They broke into his house to steal his belongings and when he intervenes he gets attacked. Good on him I say.

The best part is the other intruder may face a murder charge because it was his fault laugh which it was to anyone with any common sense.
I'm glad I live in a country (England) where I don't even have to give a thought to having a gun or shooting anyone. We must be doing something well here too.
You may have to give a thought to someone else who may have a gun and want to shoot you; because like it or not, they are available there and becoming more so all the time.

croyde

22,942 posts

231 months

Saturday 2nd August 2014
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Jimbeaux said:
Many of us were raised at a young age to handle and respect weapons. We never ended up shooting anyone. It taught us responsibility and respect for their handling. That said, 10-12 was usually that age; 4 is absurd.
Just watched the programme and the poor little girl just wasn't interested. Not surprised as the recoil from the rifle nearly took her chin off.

It's a .44 Magnum youth rifle btw.


Edited by croyde on Saturday 2nd August 13:59

Randy Winkman

16,145 posts

190 months

Saturday 2nd August 2014
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Jimbeaux said:
You may have to give a thought to someone else who may have a gun and want to shoot you; because like it or not, they are available there and becoming more so all the time.
Strangely enough, that never enters my head - I wonder why?

Axionknight

8,505 posts

136 months

Saturday 2nd August 2014
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Jimbeaux said:
You may have to give a thought to someone else who may have a gun and want to shoot you; because like it or not, they are available there and becoming more so all the time.
Comparing the figures on gun deaths between the two countries, it'll be a while yet before I start to worry.

longshot

3,286 posts

199 months

Saturday 2nd August 2014
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Years ago I was in a place called Ventura in California.

We'd just been for a meal and I left the Mexican restaurant with a half finished bottle of Bud in my hand.

We walked up the road and into a general store on the corner to buy some bits and bobs.
I completely forgot about the beer in my hand.

I walked up to the counter and the guy behind it said "is that a beer in your hand?" with a horrified look on his face like I had just beheaded his daughter (I kid you not).

It was at that moment that it dawned on me that the extremely freaked out old fella behind the counter may have a gun stashed somewhere to hand and I didn't know why he was so freaked out or what was going to happen next.

I apologised and hurried out of the shop and dumped the bottle outside the door.

Upto that point I had had just over 2 weeks in a country filled with guns and it hadn't crossed my mind once, but at that moment I was scared. Very scared.

I'm so glad we don't have guns over here and don't normalise them to our kids.
That programme the other night was shocking.

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

232 months

Saturday 2nd August 2014
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Randy Winkman said:
Jimbeaux said:
You may have to give a thought to someone else who may have a gun and want to shoot you; because like it or not, they are available there and becoming more so all the time.
Strangely enough, that never enters my head - I wonder why?
It likely won't until a bullet does. Good luck though. I hope you are 100% correct.

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

232 months

Saturday 2nd August 2014
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Randy Winkman said:
Jimbeaux said:
You may have to give a thought to someone else who may have a gun and want to shoot you; because like it or not, they are available there and becoming more so all the time.
Strangely enough, that never enters my head - I wonder why?
It likely won't until a bullet does. Good luck though. I hope you are 100% correct.

pcvdriver

1,819 posts

200 months

Saturday 2nd August 2014
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Jimbeaux said:
Randy Winkman said:
Jimbeaux said:
You may have to give a thought to someone else who may have a gun and want to shoot you; because like it or not, they are available there and becoming more so all the time.
Strangely enough, that never enters my head - I wonder why?
It likely won't until a bullet does. Good luck though. I hope you are 100% correct.
I don't think Randy goes around breaking into peoples' houses - so I think I'm pretty safe to say he needn't worry about that.... Unless you have something to tell us to the contrary Randy?.... Randy?.... Watch out Randy he's got a gun, we'd better get out of here... ;-)


Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

232 months

Saturday 2nd August 2014
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pcvdriver said:
Jimbeaux said:
Randy Winkman said:
Jimbeaux said:
You may have to give a thought to someone else who may have a gun and want to shoot you; because like it or not, they are available there and becoming more so all the time.
Strangely enough, that never enters my head - I wonder why?
It likely won't until a bullet does. Good luck though. I hope you are 100% correct.
I don't think Randy goes around breaking into peoples' houses - so I think I'm pretty safe to say he needn't worry about that.... Unless you have something to tell us to the contrary Randy?.... Randy?.... Watch out Randy he's got a gun, we'd better get out of here... ;-)
I am sure he does not; I was referring to those who may break into his. smile

Jasandjules

69,920 posts

230 months

Saturday 2nd August 2014
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Jimbeaux said:
I am sure he does not; I was referring to those who may break into his. smile
Well surely the criminals will not have weapons because they are illegal here? That's how it works right?!?

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

232 months

Saturday 2nd August 2014
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Jasandjules said:
Jimbeaux said:
I am sure he does not; I was referring to those who may break into his. smile
Well surely the criminals will not have weapons because they are illegal here? That's how it works right?!?
But of course! hehe

Jasandjules

69,920 posts

230 months

Saturday 2nd August 2014
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hairykrishna said:
What do you suggest though? Our tight restrictions work because guns have been controlled here more or less since the invention of modern firearms.
You might want to look into the history of firearms a bit more then wink


Randy Winkman

16,145 posts

190 months

Saturday 2nd August 2014
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Jasandjules said:
Jimbeaux said:
I am sure he does not; I was referring to those who may break into his. smile
Well surely the criminals will not have weapons because they are illegal here? That's how it works right?!?
Most have no need for them because they know that the rest of us don't have them.

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

232 months

Saturday 2nd August 2014
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Randy Winkman said:
Jasandjules said:
Jimbeaux said:
I am sure he does not; I was referring to those who may break into his. smile
Well surely the criminals will not have weapons because they are illegal here? That's how it works right?!?
Most have no need for them because they know that the rest of us don't have them.
And they don't want to play unfair by obtaining one.