Straight white guy festival
Discussion
WinstonWolf said:
Jimbeaux said:
WinstonWolf said:
Bill said:
Jimbeaux said:
This, along with the fact that after going on about desegregation, being included, etc, they now advocate a "black" festival? Does that not intentionally cause segregation? One should makes up one's mind.
Are white people not allowed in?There would be stands on prostate care, motorbikes, diminishing hair lines, bicycles, how to deal with kids who won't leave home, sports cars etc. and there'd be lots of music, it just wouldn't be too loud...
I think it should be sponsored by Hooters, that should also take care of all the feminists
http://www.blokesfest.co.uk/
Positive discrimination is still discrimination.
'We need more black people in our office to even up the numbers'
Qualified white person goes for job and loses out to a less qualified black guy.
How is this positive?
Equality through more rights to one group. that makes sense.
Best person for the job, regardless of who they like to sleep with, what direction they prey to and what colour plasters they have to buy.
'We need more black people in our office to even up the numbers'
Qualified white person goes for job and loses out to a less qualified black guy.
How is this positive?
Equality through more rights to one group. that makes sense.
Best person for the job, regardless of who they like to sleep with, what direction they prey to and what colour plasters they have to buy.
Jimbeaux said:
WinstonWolf said:
Jimbeaux said:
WinstonWolf said:
Bill said:
Jimbeaux said:
This, along with the fact that after going on about desegregation, being included, etc, they now advocate a "black" festival? Does that not intentionally cause segregation? One should makes up one's mind.
Are white people not allowed in?There would be stands on prostate care, motorbikes, diminishing hair lines, bicycles, how to deal with kids who won't leave home, sports cars etc. and there'd be lots of music, it just wouldn't be too loud...
I think it should be sponsored by Hooters, that should also take care of all the feminists
http://www.blokesfest.co.uk/
WinstonWolf said:
Jimbeaux said:
WinstonWolf said:
Jimbeaux said:
WinstonWolf said:
Bill said:
Jimbeaux said:
This, along with the fact that after going on about desegregation, being included, etc, they now advocate a "black" festival? Does that not intentionally cause segregation? One should makes up one's mind.
Are white people not allowed in?There would be stands on prostate care, motorbikes, diminishing hair lines, bicycles, how to deal with kids who won't leave home, sports cars etc. and there'd be lots of music, it just wouldn't be too loud...
I think it should be sponsored by Hooters, that should also take care of all the feminists
http://www.blokesfest.co.uk/
Jimbeaux said:
In case you missed the point, the whole civil rights movement was to eliminate segregation, make people color blind, outlaw racism. What I described is by definition racism. It is not about joining, it is about following the law and avoiding hypocrisy.
Simple question; take those three examples of organizations I described, replace "Black" with "White" and tell me what would happen.
If I described those organizations to anyone but left out the color description, all the leftys would be up in arms. It is simple folks, are we going to do away with racism or not? One cannot do away with parts of it, it is all or nothing.
I agree with the sentiment, but until there is no discrimination there is a place for organisations that promote minority rights. That said I think the Congressional Black Caucus were particularly stupid to refuse entry to the white Representative who had a substantial black population in his area.Simple question; take those three examples of organizations I described, replace "Black" with "White" and tell me what would happen.
If I described those organizations to anyone but left out the color description, all the leftys would be up in arms. It is simple folks, are we going to do away with racism or not? One cannot do away with parts of it, it is all or nothing.
Blokesfest sounds good though.
Bill said:
Jimbeaux said:
In case you missed the point, the whole civil rights movement was to eliminate segregation, make people color blind, outlaw racism. What I described is by definition racism. It is not about joining, it is about following the law and avoiding hypocrisy.
Simple question; take those three examples of organizations I described, replace "Black" with "White" and tell me what would happen.
If I described those organizations to anyone but left out the color description, all the leftys would be up in arms. It is simple folks, are we going to do away with racism or not? One cannot do away with parts of it, it is all or nothing.
I agree with the sentiment, but until there is no discrimination there is a place for organisations that promote minority rights. That said I think the Congressional Black Caucus were particularly stupid to refuse entry to the white Representative who had a substantial black population in his area.Simple question; take those three examples of organizations I described, replace "Black" with "White" and tell me what would happen.
If I described those organizations to anyone but left out the color description, all the leftys would be up in arms. It is simple folks, are we going to do away with racism or not? One cannot do away with parts of it, it is all or nothing.
Blokesfest sounds good though.
Pixelpeep7r said:
Positive discrimination is still discrimination.
'We need more black people in our office to even up the numbers'
Qualified white person goes for job and loses out to a less qualified black guy.
How is this positive?
Equality through more rights to one group. that makes sense.
Best person for the job, regardless of who they like to sleep with, what direction they prey to and what colour plasters they have to buy.
I would say this type of discrimination is much more common and goes unpunished, if not encouraged by our s'We need more black people in our office to even up the numbers'
Qualified white person goes for job and loses out to a less qualified black guy.
How is this positive?
Equality through more rights to one group. that makes sense.
Best person for the job, regardless of who they like to sleep with, what direction they prey to and what colour plasters they have to buy.
t government.jimbop1 said:
Pixelpeep7r said:
Positive discrimination is still discrimination.
'We need more black people in our office to even up the numbers'
Qualified white person goes for job and loses out to a less qualified black guy.
How is this positive?
Equality through more rights to one group. that makes sense.
Best person for the job, regardless of who they like to sleep with, what direction they prey to and what colour plasters they have to buy.
I would say this type of discrimination is much more common and goes unpunished, if not encouraged by our s'We need more black people in our office to even up the numbers'
Qualified white person goes for job and loses out to a less qualified black guy.
How is this positive?
Equality through more rights to one group. that makes sense.
Best person for the job, regardless of who they like to sleep with, what direction they prey to and what colour plasters they have to buy.
t government.TKF said:
Fortunately there are laws which protect everybody against this. We don't live in a Daily Mail headline so no need to get your knickers twisted.
If there are laws against this then they definitely don't enforce them.Don't the Police themselves actively recruit black, Asian and homosexuals etc over other people?
Edited by jimbop1 on Monday 28th July 19:45
jimbop1 said:
TKF said:
Fortunately there are laws which protect everybody against this. We don't live in a Daily Mail headline so no need to get your knickers twisted.
If there are laws against this then they definitely don't enforce them.Don't the Police themselves actively recruit black, Asian and homosexuals etc over other people?
Edited by jimbop1 on Monday 28th July 19:45
What was described above was quota filling and employing an unskilled black person instead of a skilled white person. That's illegal and doesn't happen so there is no need to get so cross.
WinstonWolf said:
FAQ said:
#Can Woman & Children attend? Yes, Woman & Children are also welcome
TKF said:
jimbop1 said:
TKF said:
Fortunately there are laws which protect everybody against this. We don't live in a Daily Mail headline so no need to get your knickers twisted.
If there are laws against this then they definitely don't enforce them.Don't the Police themselves actively recruit black, Asian and homosexuals etc over other people?
Edited by jimbop1 on Monday 28th July 19:45
What was described above was quota filling and employing an unskilled black person instead of a skilled white person. That's illegal and doesn't happen so there is no need to get so cross.
TKF said:
Candidates need to be as skilled as each other. Then and only then can employers use positive action.
What was described above was quota filling and employing an unskilled black person instead of a skilled white person. That's illegal and doesn't happen so there is no need to get so cross.
Yes, but everybody knows that is a lie, and more or equally able people are discounted purely because they don't help the figures.What was described above was quota filling and employing an unskilled black person instead of a skilled white person. That's illegal and doesn't happen so there is no need to get so cross.
As every manager's next promotion depends on them proving their equal opportunities credentials, the end result is inevitable.
Every manager knows what is 'expected' of them. They aren't told explicitly. And we can all pretend it is fair and legal.
TKF said:
jimbop1 said:
TKF said:
Fortunately there are laws which protect everybody against this. We don't live in a Daily Mail headline so no need to get your knickers twisted.
If there are laws against this then they definitely don't enforce them.Don't the Police themselves actively recruit black, Asian and homosexuals etc over other people?
Edited by jimbop1 on Monday 28th July 19:45
What was described above was quota filling and employing an unskilled black person instead of a skilled white person. That's illegal and doesn't happen so there is no need to get so cross.
Mr GrimNasty said:
TKF said:
Candidates need to be as skilled as each other. Then and only then can employers use positive action.
What was described above was quota filling and employing an unskilled black person instead of a skilled white person. That's illegal and doesn't happen so there is no need to get so cross.
Yes, but everybody knows that is a lie, and more or equally able people are discounted purely because they don't help the figures.What was described above was quota filling and employing an unskilled black person instead of a skilled white person. That's illegal and doesn't happen so there is no need to get so cross.
As every manager's next promotion depends on them proving their equal opportunities credentials, the end result is inevitable.
Every manager knows what is 'expected' of them. They aren't told explicitly. And we can all pretend it is fair and legal.
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