Don't rub Max Mosley up the wrong way
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Smiler. said:
BlackLabel said:
Wonder what Max gets out of this arrangement?
"Tom Watson given £500k in donations by Max Mosley in past year
Register of MPs’ interests shows that former Formula One boss gave money to support Watson’s office as deputy leader and shadow culture secretary"
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/feb/22/t...
Do you suspect Tom Watson is being palmed off?"Tom Watson given £500k in donations by Max Mosley in past year
Register of MPs’ interests shows that former Formula One boss gave money to support Watson’s office as deputy leader and shadow culture secretary"
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/feb/22/t...
The donations to Tom Watson MP is mentioned from about 25 minutes in:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syFg1s4Hcjw
Did Tom Watson MP alter his stance on the Snooper's Charter? I thought he was with a group that was against it.
The bloke has built an image, maybe even a self-image, that does not quite tally with what is known about him. Hiding facts and circumstances from internet searches won't stop the truth coming out. However, if this attack on the freedom of the press by those in hacked off does go through in its present form, exposing the truth behind facades with become more difficult. It's bad enough now with out civil courts.I don't know if the people behind the UK Column would go for the 'van' incident? They don't have bottomless pockets.
They said they received some positive criticism from the BBC for this 2016 interview with a former Metropolitan child protection police officer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_sDeTCLVDQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syFg1s4Hcjw
Did Tom Watson MP alter his stance on the Snooper's Charter? I thought he was with a group that was against it.
Derek Smith said:
paulrockliffe said:
Derek, you should write a biography on the chap.
All I'd need is a publisher which had ample profit to cover being sued.The bloke has built an image, maybe even a self-image, that does not quite tally with what is known about him. Hiding facts and circumstances from internet searches won't stop the truth coming out. However, if this attack on the freedom of the press by those in hacked off does go through in its present form, exposing the truth behind facades with become more difficult. It's bad enough now with out civil courts.
They said they received some positive criticism from the BBC for this 2016 interview with a former Metropolitan child protection police officer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_sDeTCLVDQ
Derek Smith said:
Reedited to add:
I was wrong on specifics about Unity Mitford and the head injury article. It was in The New Statesman, http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/martin-bright/20...
There was a TV programme on it evidently but I missed that.
Still can't find the details of Mosely's arrest for the van driving.
All this is the sort of stuff Mosley's movement will make much more difficult to discover.
Bravo for the corrections. Admirable and professional.I was wrong on specifics about Unity Mitford and the head injury article. It was in The New Statesman, http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/martin-bright/20...
There was a TV programme on it evidently but I missed that.
Still can't find the details of Mosely's arrest for the van driving.
All this is the sort of stuff Mosley's movement will make much more difficult to discover.
You know things are bad when even Cathy Newman comes out of an interview looking better than you do.
https://order-order.com/2018/02/27/max-mosley-car-...
Why Max is back in the news again:
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2018/feb/16/max-...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5441827/Di...
https://order-order.com/2018/02/27/max-mosley-car-...
Why Max is back in the news again:
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2018/feb/16/max-...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5441827/Di...
Edited by BlackLabel on Tuesday 27th February 20:56
BlackLabel said:
You know things are bad when even Cathy Newman comes out of an interview looking better than you do.
https://order-order.com/2018/02/27/max-mosley-car-...
Why Max is back in the news again:
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2018/feb/16/max-...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5441827/Di...
Watched it myself.https://order-order.com/2018/02/27/max-mosley-car-...
Why Max is back in the news again:
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2018/feb/16/max-...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5441827/Di...
Edited by BlackLabel on Tuesday 27th February 20:56
IFor someone who stated that he hadn't seen the
Leaflet until CN confronted him with it tonight, MM seemed very knowledgeable
about it's contents.
The fact that it bore his name, as the Publisher, may have helped somewhat .
CoolHands said:
Why have the DM got it in for him? They’ve really gone to town on him, and I think most of the public actually couldn’t give much of a s
t
The online article has Watson on stage beside Corbyn.tSo Mosley has given Watson and/or his campaign against the press about £1/2 Million and Watson is shown in a photo with Corbyn.
So Mosley is campaigning against a press that prints lies, yet the pamphlet could show Mosley may be prone to lying himself.
Mosley is exposed as a rich, holier than thou 'do as I say, not as I do' hypocrite?
Murph7355 said:
CoolHands said:
Why have the DM got it in for him? They’ve really gone to town on him, and I think most of the public actually couldn’t give much of a st...
Hell hath no fury like a newspaper scorned...t...- Providing the vast majority of if not all the funding for Impress, the press regulator that hates the press and which the newspapers refuse to sign up to despite the stringent penalties for not doing so. Of course he denies this as the money is suitably laundered so it isn't a direct payment and he can claim he isn't in control.
- The way he's currently trying to misuse the Data Protection Act to stop the press ever mentioning again any of his little foibles. Like the 'orgy', or his alleged history as a fascist and all that involved.
The fascism claim is a bit difficult to dodge when there's supposedly documents and film of him in action which make the current 'far right' look a bit soft. Of course he strongly denies any suggestion that he was ever a violent racist fascist with a sideline in Jew-bashing.
Though his attempted warping of the DPA means that facts won't matter if he doesn't want you talking about stuff.
CoolHands said:
Why have the DM got it in for him? They’ve really gone to town on him, and I think most of the public actually couldn’t give much of a st
All papers are rising up against Mosley. Since his Nazi sex dungeon stuff was exposed, he has been attempting to buy press regulation, donating to parties and secretly funding a new state approved regulator that no newspaper is willing to sign up to, various campaign groups and the National Union of Journalists all against him.tBased on everything I haver read about him, he appears to be a nasty piece of work.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/02/15/max-mo...
Well done Mail, hope the perjury charge sticks.
Edited by hyphen on Tuesday 27th February 21:57
The Mail must be pretty sure of their stance and evidence other wise they would be stupid to go after him. I think it is clear there is something to answer as Tom Watson when asked said that The Rothermeres supported the Fascists in some way trying to make out that Mosley was a nice guy. It all seemed to prepared somehow.
Mosley took the papers to court and somehow won, not sure how when the film showed a different thing to that he claimed but instead of leaving it at that has continued to attack the press.
I am no legal expert but if he lied under oath what is the punishment, or was he just economical with the truth and as such is just in the clear.
A sharp mind like his remembers everything, he went from it didn't exist to I cannot recall to is it genuine, it is the first time I have ever seen him rattled. Fair play to CN as when he was almost threatening her with you need to be careful saying that, she carried on quite well
Be good to see this play out now.
Mosley took the papers to court and somehow won, not sure how when the film showed a different thing to that he claimed but instead of leaving it at that has continued to attack the press.
I am no legal expert but if he lied under oath what is the punishment, or was he just economical with the truth and as such is just in the clear.
A sharp mind like his remembers everything, he went from it didn't exist to I cannot recall to is it genuine, it is the first time I have ever seen him rattled. Fair play to CN as when he was almost threatening her with you need to be careful saying that, she carried on quite well
Be good to see this play out now.
BlackLabel said:
You know things are bad when even Cathy Newman comes out of an interview looking better than you do.
https://order-order.com/2018/02/27/max-mosley-car-...
https://order-order.com/2018/02/27/max-mosley-car-...
hyphen said:
All papers are rising up against Mosley. Since his Nazi sex dungeon stuff was exposed, he has been attempting to buy press regulation, donating to parties and secretly funding a new state approved regulator that no newspaper is willing to sign up to, various campaign groups and the National Union of Journalists all against him.
Based on everything I haver read about him, he appears to be a nasty piece of work.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/02/15/max-mo...
Well done Mail, hope the perjury charge sticks.
He denies funding the press regulatory body but admits to funding the body that's funding the regulatory body. Private Eye has much on this. It is scary that a bloke with such a history should be allowed to influence the freedom on the press.Based on everything I haver read about him, he appears to be a nasty piece of work.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/02/15/max-mo...
Well done Mail, hope the perjury charge sticks.
Edited by hyphen on Tuesday 27th February 21:57
He was, after all, a candidate for the Union Movement, the post war reincarnation of the British Union of Fascists. The literature that the party produced, reportedly authored by Ozzy's wife, one of the weird Mitford women, was repulsive in its racist language. Really quite vile.
I think your description does not go far enough.
Jonesy23 said:
Maybe because of a couple of things:
- Providing the vast majority of if not all the funding for Impress, the press regulator that hates the press and which the newspapers refuse to sign up to despite the stringent penalties for not doing so. Of course he denies this as the money is suitably laundered so it isn't a direct payment and he can claim he isn't in control.
- The way he's currently trying to misuse the Data Protection Act to stop the press ever mentioning again any of his little foibles. Like the 'orgy', or his alleged history as a fascist and all that involved.
The fascism claim is a bit difficult to dodge when there's supposedly documents and film of him in action which make the current 'far right' look a bit soft. Of course he strongly denies any suggestion that he was ever a violent racist fascist with a sideline in Jew-bashing.
Though his attempted warping of the DPA means that facts won't matter if he doesn't want you talking about stuff.
How does he afford all this? His role on the FIA was unpaid wasnt it?- Providing the vast majority of if not all the funding for Impress, the press regulator that hates the press and which the newspapers refuse to sign up to despite the stringent penalties for not doing so. Of course he denies this as the money is suitably laundered so it isn't a direct payment and he can claim he isn't in control.
- The way he's currently trying to misuse the Data Protection Act to stop the press ever mentioning again any of his little foibles. Like the 'orgy', or his alleged history as a fascist and all that involved.
The fascism claim is a bit difficult to dodge when there's supposedly documents and film of him in action which make the current 'far right' look a bit soft. Of course he strongly denies any suggestion that he was ever a violent racist fascist with a sideline in Jew-bashing.
Though his attempted warping of the DPA means that facts won't matter if he doesn't want you talking about stuff.
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