Todays major fire.

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onyx39

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11,128 posts

151 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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Is a power station in Yorkshire.
15 Fire engines currently in attendance apparently.
Fire Service are earning their money this week!

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/jul/31/fir...

Puggit

48,488 posts

249 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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Guardian link? irked

Fittster

20,120 posts

214 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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Puggit said:
Guardian link? irked
A link for hate filled right wingers: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2712083/Bl...

Beati Dogu

8,898 posts

140 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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It all that Russian coal we're burning. They probably stuck some dynamite in a few lumps.

Jonny_

4,128 posts

208 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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That's the new FGD (flue gas desulphurisation) plant that's gone up.

Mandated by the EU, to reduce atmospheric pollution. Can't help but see the irony in that bloody great plume of black smoke...

Important thing, nobody hurt.

tenpenceshort

32,880 posts

218 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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It's just us Northerners having a barbecue. Nothing to see here.

sampsan

82 posts

127 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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FGD plant, main absorber unit, lot bigger than it looks in the picture. Where the flue gasses are sprayed with limestone slurry to scrub the SO2 and therefore remove Sulphur from the chimney discharge.

The limestone slurry impregnated with So2 is bubbled with air and undergoes a chemical reaction within the process and this is used to grow gypsum that is extracted then used in plasterboard etc.

The absorber is fully rubber lined and therefore always a fire risk, the unit was I believe undergoing maintenance therefore suspect hot work type control issues....... someone might be in trouble.

Not the first unit to go up in flames worldwide even think one FGD unit burnt down at Aberthaw PS, major cost and rebuld required..... out of action for a long time which will also apply to Ferrybridge!

hyperblue

2,802 posts

181 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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Yeah the FGD stuff is massive, just looks small next to the cooling towers and stack.

sampsan said:
The absorber is fully rubber lined and therefore always a fire risk, the unit was I believe undergoing maintenance therefore suspect hot work type control issues....... someone might be in trouble
Squeaky bum time for one of the maintenance contractors no doubt! hehe

Edited by hyperblue on Thursday 31st July 21:50

V88Dicky

7,305 posts

184 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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Let's hope we don't have a particularly cold winter. Ferrybridge provides a fair percentage of our electricity needs iirc.

tescorank

1,997 posts

232 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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There was quite a big one yesterday

Trax

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233 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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Jonny_ said:
That's the new FGD (flue gas desulphurisation) plant that's gone up.
New FGD plant you say.....

I remember doing a quote for the installation of the fire sprinkler systems for that, about 20 odd years ago.... From memory it was to cover the conveyor systems.

I am sure the company I worked for the didn't get the job, erm, I think.....

sampsan

82 posts

127 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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The FGD plant at Ferrybridge was constructed 5-6 years ago, so fairly new. Wasnt even a twinkle in SSE's eye 20 years ago!!!

V8 Fettler

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133 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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sampsan said:
The FGD plant at Ferrybridge was constructed 5-6 years ago, so fairly new. Wasnt even a twinkle in SSE's eye 20 years ago!!!
It had reached an early design stage for the CEGB in 1990. And then the CEGB was no more.

sampsan

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127 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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Agree on that, Drax had the only operational FGD plant installed by the CEGB but others were planned.

In 1990 Ferrybridge would have actually been Powergen which at that point was a 'division' of the CEGB just prior to privatisation.

Still classed as new, design was completely redone by Lentjes or Lurgi as it was know at that point in time. ;-)

baldy1926

2,136 posts

201 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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Got a feeling some of these 'big' fires could cause more damage due to fire service cuts.
For instance Leicester are reducing manning to only 4 per pump. Which means the first crew on scene cant even deploy ba. So you will wait for the second crew or more realistically just risk it and go in.
With less manpower and units things will have more chance of going wrong

Steve vRS

4,848 posts

242 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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When I do industrial fire risk assessments, I always assume that as long as everyone is safe, the fire service will not put them selves at risk to save an asset- quite rightly so. Therefore if you cannot afford to loose the capital or capacity from that asset, then additional layers of protection or mitigation should be considered.

However, fitters with oxy-acetylene torches in a rubber lined vessel make my teeth itch!

Steve

elster

17,517 posts

211 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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Siniat are going to be a bit pissed off.

onyx39

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151 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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baldy1926 said:
Got a feeling some of these 'big' fires could cause more damage due to fire service cuts.
For instance Leicester are reducing manning to only 4 per pump. Which means the first crew on scene cant even deploy ba. So you will wait for the second crew or more realistically just risk it and go in.
With less manpower and units things will have more chance of going wrong
But presumably when control send out the initial attendance, they are going to know if "persons resported" and order 2 appliances accordingly?

baldy1926

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201 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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Ideally yes but as a lot of crews are retained you can be waiting a bit. Just hope there resource planning is up to the mark. To make certain the cover overlaps properly

legzr1

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140 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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V88Dicky said:
Let's hope we don't have a particularly cold winter. Ferrybridge provides a fair percentage of our electricity needs iirc.
I'm guessing Eggborough and Drax would cope with the demand short term.

This could be a 'good' thing for Eggborough actually - they've been campaigning for some time for financial help to convert to Biomass burning. With Ferrybridge possibly out of the picture for some time it's probably a good time to increase the lobbying...