Sir Cliff Richard

[Mr GrimNasty]

Oooops. Lenny Henry mentions Cliff on One Show, same reaction as if he'd pulled down his trousers and taken a dump on the sofa.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUyYpAlIocQ

[mybrainhurts]

ATTAK Z said:

25NAD90TUL said:

ATTAK Z said:

Agreed Peter

Mate I promise you I'm NOT Peter Hook!

I know ... I think you're Peter Coyle

FFS...and I'm Spartacus.

Now, can we move on, we have hanging to do....

[25NAD90TUL]

Mr GrimNasty said:

Oooops. Lenny Henry mentions Cliff on One Show, same reaction as if he'd pulled down his trousers and taken a dump on the sofa.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUyYpAlIocQ

Sorry I missed that, couldn't take my eyes of that welsh bird...

this is getting a lot of play on YT re cliff:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHKwzpwK8Ss

Interesting mention of two boys, a Krays' party and the boy who wasn't cliff ending u in little pieces in a suitcase.

Dunno what to think, sometimes it seems a lot of silly stuff to make us sceptical.

Edited by 25NAD90TUL on Tuesday 19th August 23:25

[longblackcoat]

Legacywr said:

longblackcoat said:

Leave Carter USM out of this!

One of their members died recently!

Jon wasn't part of the band, but certainly a large part of the scenery. We'll give him a good send off in November.

[Halmyre]

Cliff's got Cilla Black's backing; that's him sorted then.

[jmorgan]

Qwert1e said:

Impasse said:

Cliff has pulled out of a charity event in Canterbury Cathedral next month. He's decided not to attend because he "doesn't want the event to be overshadowed by the false allegation"

Sounds sensible enough to me.

The media scrum would be OTT.

[gpo746]

Halmyre said:

Cliff's got Cilla Black's backing; that's him sorted then.

There is a new 3 parter about Cilla starting sooon - possibly next week

[onyx39]

I got a text last night that said simply " 12 year old boy tossed off cliff"


Made me a laugh

[KareemK]

gpo746 said:

There is a new 3 parter about Cilla starting sooon - possibly next week

Care to elaborate? Any idea on the content of the (said) program? I presume you mean that its not just a "Cilla's greatest hits" kinda show.

[Digga]

Steffan said:

...I was once a Director of a company years ago where two other directors traded fraudulently unbeknownst to the rest of that company and made a great deal of money without anyone other than those two rogues having any idea what they were really up to.

First we heard was when the fraud squad turned up and arrested the miscreants who were both jailed.

Caused a hell of a fuss at the time and the uninvolved Directors (inc Moi) and staff were expecting serious questions from the Police, in due course, although we were all totally unaware of the complex fraud that had been perpetrated, until then. In fact we were exonerated from any responsibility by the Police within the first two days of their investigation and I was never even interviewed I am delighted to say.

I was most impressed that the Police were that clued up and thorough from the start. We had no idea what was afoot on the fraud side and the Police obviously realised without even speaking to the uninvolved staff and Directors that we were simply not involved. Impressed me then and continues to do so. I think the quieter backwaters of Accountancy are a lot less trouble...

I've provided evidence in a recent, high-profile VAT fraud case. It involved the usual carousel fraud and the firm in question reckons they were exporting machinery produced by one of the firms I'm a director of.

I was 'phoned by the two officers running the investigation, who then came to visit. They were a pair of scruffy bds, jeans & trainers sort of look (never judge a book and all that) but had an astonishing grasp of the case and the network of firms and individuals involved.

I was wondering how exactly I was going to be of help to them - since the machinery in question could easily have been bought secondhand (rather than new from us) from any third party/parties - when I had the brainwave to ask how many machines were involved. It quickly became apparent that the numbers (these were very specialist bits of kit) were way in excess of total build. I was never called for more evidence - clearly they already knew we were not involved - and the subsequent reports in the press a year or two later IIRC (these cases take a lot of time to unpick) indicated they police were successful in securing convictions.

Edited by Digga on Wednesday 20th August 11:23

[Halmyre]

gpo746 said:

Halmyre said:

Cliff's got Cilla Black's backing; that's him sorted then.

There is a new 3 parter about Cilla starting sooon - possibly next week

Part 1: Hung
Part 2: Drawn
Part 3: Quartered

We can only dream...

[gpo746]

Kareem : The Cilla Thing:

http://www.itv.com/presscentre/press-releases/itv-...

Its one of the Autumn programmes ITV are trailing heavily I may be out in my mention of next week just saw some trailers last night for some stuff
May be a tie in with 50 years in show business or whatever.

[KareemK]

gpo746 said:

Kareem : The Cilla Thing:

http://www.itv.com/presscentre/press-releases/itv-...

Its one of the Autumn programmes ITV are trailing heavily I may be out in my mention of next week just saw some trailers last night for some stuff
May be a tie in with 50 years in show business or whatever.

Damn, I thought it was going to be a huge exposé of something dark or devious that happened in the past to do with current events.

I'll give that a miss.

[EskimoArapaho]

KareemK said:

Damn, I thought it was going to be a huge exposé of something dark or devious that happened in the past to do with current events.

I'll give that a miss.

Well, she did sing a lovely little song about getting her husband to thump her children, so who knows?

[Digga]

Guam said:

According to one Lawyer the Raid on cliffs penthouse may have broken the law?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2729290/Po...

Breadvan72 said:

Nope. Won't work. English law has no general exclusionary "fruits of the poisoned tree" doctrine, and there is in any event nothing to suggest that the warrant was gained or executed unlawfully. Seeing spooks and shadows behind every bush may be fun, but sometimes boring old reality intervenes.

So which lawyer is right?

And, as I said before, if the raid was fudged, was it accident or sabotage?

[Einion Yrth]

Digga said:

Guam said:

According to one Lawyer the Raid on cliffs penthouse may have broken the law?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2729290/Po...

Breadvan72 said:

Nope. Won't work. English law has no general exclusionary "fruits of the poisoned tree" doctrine, and there is in any event nothing to suggest that the warrant was gained or executed unlawfully. Seeing spooks and shadows behind every bush may be fun, but sometimes boring old reality intervenes.

So which lawyer is right?

And, as I said before, if the raid was fudged, was it accident or sabotage?

If they recovered any evidence it scarcely matters. It might be inadmissible in a court of law but the court of popular opinion would not make his life very pleasant.

[Langweilig]

Halmyre said:

Cliff's got Cilla Black's backing; that's him sorted then.

IIRC, she was "sickened" at Rolf getting banged up.

[anonymous-user]

Much as I admire the great Geoff, and much as I agree that the media splurging re the search was reprehensible, I think that Geoff may be on a bit of a long shot there, as if any evidence found in the search was objected to there would need to be some specific unfairness, not a general concern that it was a poor show all round (which it was, whether the alleged singer is guilty or innocent).

[25NAD90TUL]

Breadvan72 said:

Much as I admire the great Geoff, and much as I agree that the media splurging re the search was reprehensible, I think that Geoff may be on a bit of a long shot there, as if any evidence found in the search was objected to there would need to be some specific unfairness, not a general concern that it was a poor show all round (which it was, whether the alleged singer is guilty or innocent).

BV I'm confused, on sunday you were suggesting I was a tin-foil hat nutter for believing in cover-ups, reading your recent input you seem to have said several times that in your view it's going on.

[tenpenceshort]

Breadvan72 said:

Much as I admire the great Geoff, and much as I agree that the media splurging re the search was reprehensible, I think that Geoff may be on a bit of a long shot there, as if any evidence found in the search was objected to there would need to be some specific unfairness, not a general concern that it was a poor show all round (which it was, whether the alleged singer is guilty or innocent).

As you would expect it would depend on the specific circumstances. At it's highest it might be shown the Police gave the Magistrates such a cock and bull story and colluded wrongly with the BBC to such an extent the trial is an abuse and it would be unfair to try him. At the other end, it might be that the magistrates pushed the limit of acceptability but the warrant wasn't unlawful or even that there isn't a hint of unlawfulness at all.

Without knowing the details it's impossible to say.

If there is a sniff of illegality about the actions of the Police you can certainly bet your own bottom there'll be a pre trial abuse hearing and a strong attempt to get any raid-connected evidence excluded under PACE.

Edited to add, all this presupposes he'll be charged at all.