Sir Cliff Richard
Discussion
Breadvan72 said:
Much as I admire the great Geoff, and much as I agree that the media splurging re the search was reprehensible, I think that Geoff may be on a bit of a long shot there, as if any evidence found in the search was objected to there would need to be some specific unfairness, not a general concern that it was a poor show all round (which it was, whether the alleged singer is guilty or innocent).
ISWYDTDerek Smith said:
A conspiracy only takes two people to start. Conspiracies are common.
By the way, I had a visit from a mason. I was threatened and I believed it because there was a well known conspiracy going on which no one was really able to do anything about. This conspiracy was part of a murder, and it took in solicitors and a coroner.
Look up Harold Challenor. Again we have a situation where the only person who had any excuse for his actions was Challenor himself, a war hero, MM, and suffering from what would now be called PTSD. He was sent for psychiatric treatment and there was a full enquiry started - into why his illness hadn't been noticed.
What many people wondered was why the other officers, the lawyers, the magistrates and others did nothing about it. There were rumours, which many say was true, of a stipendiary commenting that he was fed up seeing the same half brick time and again.
I've mentioned before on here that a whole office in a local authority conspired together, from the bloke in charge to a typist. And they conspired with the bosses of various companies. And, the OIC was told, it is the norm.
You don't need a tin hat to believe in conspiracies. What you need are blinkers not to.
Did the shadows of Ridge, Hammersley and Heath loom long over your days policing in Brighton, or had the rot been properly cut out and public faith restored?By the way, I had a visit from a mason. I was threatened and I believed it because there was a well known conspiracy going on which no one was really able to do anything about. This conspiracy was part of a murder, and it took in solicitors and a coroner.
Look up Harold Challenor. Again we have a situation where the only person who had any excuse for his actions was Challenor himself, a war hero, MM, and suffering from what would now be called PTSD. He was sent for psychiatric treatment and there was a full enquiry started - into why his illness hadn't been noticed.
What many people wondered was why the other officers, the lawyers, the magistrates and others did nothing about it. There were rumours, which many say was true, of a stipendiary commenting that he was fed up seeing the same half brick time and again.
I've mentioned before on here that a whole office in a local authority conspired together, from the bloke in charge to a typist. And they conspired with the bosses of various companies. And, the OIC was told, it is the norm.
You don't need a tin hat to believe in conspiracies. What you need are blinkers not to.
25NAD, no need for confusion. I think that your apparent notion that arresting Cliff and other shlerbs is a cunning decoy plan to protect dodgy pols is tinfoil hattish. I think that claims that lots of D/DA Notices have been used are tinfoil hattish. DA Notices only work if the media accept them, as they have no legal force, and the suggestion that lots of editors accepted non national security DA Notices about pervs is inherently implausible. What is not tinfoil hattish is the suggestion that in the past some allegations may have been suppressed because police were bought off or leaned on. I support careful investigation of such shenanigans, but suggest that we maintain a sceptical viewpoint and don't buy into extreme theories.
Prawnboy said:
THE QUESTION NOW IS:
Did someone high up in the establishment order a raid that they new would be illegal to stop any subsequent legal raids? This could stop the trail at Cliff's door before it climbs higher up into the lizard peado ring.
we must be told!
Suspicion that may be the case isn't helped by Theresa May appointing Baroness Butler-closed-Shop to chair the overarching Paedo review and the Telegraph running with a story that a victim may have been encouraged to let stuff go as the Press would love to bash a Bishop.Did someone high up in the establishment order a raid that they new would be illegal to stop any subsequent legal raids? This could stop the trail at Cliff's door before it climbs higher up into the lizard peado ring.
we must be told!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/10963...
Jimboka said:
So any evidence they found in his newish apartment, of an alleged offence in 1985, may not be allowed due to illegal police raid? Blimey, that will make a difference!!
Given the raft of high profile cases over the past couple of years - any celebrity with even the toe bone of a skeleton in their closet will surely have disposed of incriminating evidence by now.
I can't imagine the police going round to any aging celebs house and finding an ACME Noncing kit under the stairs and a 'Primary School' fancy dress costume hanging in their wardrobe.
If there is enough evidence for a prosecution - it'll likely already be in the police's possession - or will be provided by witnesses who come forward. Perhaps raids like this are merely a vehicle to get the investigation on the public's radar (and therefore get witnesses to come forward).
Edited by Moonhawk on Wednesday 20th August 18:48
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