Sir Cliff Richard

[williamp]

Halmyre said:

mybrainhurts said:

:cough:

What happened to the Harold Webb thread..?

It's become a bit unravelled.

So has he been caught speeding, yes? And does he still own the interceptor? The cad

[Prawnboy]

lets hope he stays free for the next 118 days.........it's just 118 days till xmas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dt_lEknp9tk

[Alex]

Perhaps the police chasing Cliff Richard across the world should have spent a little more time in Rotherham?

[chris watton]

Alison Pearson in the DT said:

Let’s start with a riddle. If South Yorkshire Police can mount a raid on Sir Cliff Richard’s home in pursuit of evidence linked to a single allegation of child sex abuse 30 years ago, why were South Yorkshire Police incapable of pursuing multiple allegations against multiple men who raped 1,400 children over 16 years?

Quite!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11059...

[anonymous-user]

That Telegraph piece is very powerful. I don't often agree with Telegraph columnists, but I agree with that column.

[Digga]

Have Common Purpose issued a memo okaying profiling of 70s slebs, whilst maintaining their position with regard to immigrant child abusers?

When the dust settles, IMHO the Labour party have as much to answer on this as any of the organisations involved.

[XCP]

carinaman said:

I found this link:

http://bernardrix.com/2014/08/27/if-there-were-to-...

It says on a turnout of just over 145K (14.5%) he got 74615 1st preference votes 51.35%.

Given his achievements with the Council, ahem, was he really qualified to stand? It is like the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy where they send the useless folk like Phone Sanitisers off to another planet. But in the UK with our 'British Values' we allow them to apply for £100K jobs.

So 85 % of the electorate couldn't be arsed to vote. Typical. Perhaps more will bother next time.

[Vipers]

chris watton said:

Alison Pearson in the DT said:

Let’s start with a riddle. If South Yorkshire Police can mount a raid on Sir Cliff Richard’s home in pursuit of evidence linked to a single allegation of child sex abuse 30 years ago, why were South Yorkshire Police incapable of pursuing multiple allegations against multiple men who raped 1,400 children over 16 years?

Quite!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11059...

Absolutely shocking. Needs an in depth investigation, and those who ignored the evidence delt with severely, no excuse whatsoever for ignoring the evidence.

Name and shame those responsible for starters.

[vxr8mate]

Vipers said:

chris watton said:

Alison Pearson in the DT said:

Let’s start with a riddle. If South Yorkshire Police can mount a raid on Sir Cliff Richard’s home in pursuit of evidence linked to a single allegation of child sex abuse 30 years ago, why were South Yorkshire Police incapable of pursuing multiple allegations against multiple men who raped 1,400 children over 16 years?

Quite!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11059...

Absolutely shocking. Needs an in depth investigation, and those who ignored the evidence delt with severely, no excuse whatsoever for ignoring the evidence.

Name and shame those responsible for starters.

Agreed. That article does raise a number of questions that need answering. Funny how Cameron and the like find the time to comment on such trivia as overseas tax schemes, football results and actors, but fail to step up when the hard questions are asked.

In light of all our once treasured entertainers now being bought to justice should it not be easy for the police to go back just 12 months and start their investigations ....or would that rustle some racial jimmies?

[JuniorD]

Lessons should be learned...in a prison. The police and public servants who neglected their duties should all be put in prison, with the perpatrators of the original crimes.

[carinaman]

In SP&L Mill Wheel started a thread entitled 'SPEEDOS or PAEDOS', I think making the point that it's inconsistent that every motoring infraction is dealt with while the Great and the Good in the Establishment can cover up terrible sexual crimes against minors and get away with it.

In that thread I opined that going after Paedos and the police and Councillors that protect them doesn't make for cheap advertorial TV like Road Wars and Traffic Cops.

Yesterday in the US a TV Sound Man on a hit show 'Cops' that's been running since 1989 was shot dead when the police arrived at the scene of a robbery where the alleged Perp. was shooting a pellet gun. It was reported on the BBC that that police force had invited the TV programme to film with them as they wanted to improve their image having been caught out with some scandalous police wrongdoings previously.

Taking the lead from the Telegraph article, I don't suppose this high profile raid at a home of Harold Webb by the same police force caught up in these appalling sex crimes in Rotherham may have been an attempt to move the spotlight, a distraction, an attempt to manage the news agenda?

I only saw the first TV documentary about what was going on in Sheffield with Section 30 dispersal orders and staffing levels. Has any upside to that programme all been undone, forgotten? Was that an attempt to manage the news agenda before this Rotherham stuff came out?

If we have people within organisations hiding the sexual abuse of 1400 minors over a 16 years, are doubts that the raid in Royal Berks. may have been an attempt to massage the news agenda really the stuff of conspiracy theorists? When some in the media made unwelcome remarks about the investigation into the disappearance of Jo Yeates didn't Avon & Somerset ban some of the media from attending their PR events on it?

Perhaps Cliff, as mentioned previously in the thread, guilty of no more than being a bit different, a bit like Christopher Jefferies the prime suspect for doing away with Jo Yeates?

Cliff is a bit odd, non-conformist, not like you and I? But then again Cliff probably isn't like the Police and Social Services in Rotherham that doubted and hid reports and sat on their hands for 16 years while 1400 young girls were raped and exploited. Are there comparisons to be made to the Nigel Evans case?

If Mark Williams-Thomas is involved with the media tip-off where would that leave his credibility and standing now comparisons have been made between the raid and the same force's failings in Rotherham? It could be said Rotherham was widely known about and there's more to be gained by calling some of the more 'well connected', high profile offenders to account?

Edited by carinaman on Thursday 28th August 16:46

[XCP]

To be fair to A and S it was only ITV they banned after they had broadcast some pretty stupid comment, and the ban didn't last long!

But this is pretty far off the subject of Sir Cliff.....

[carinaman]

XCP, thank you. Regarding A & S and ITV falling out you have the inside track and I only heard what I heard from the media. I wonder if that will be included in the dramatisation about what happened to Christopher Jefferies? I guess it could be included due to the role of the media in his witch hunt. I guess it's slightly relevant due to the media coverage of the raid on Sir Cliff.

[anonymous-user]

This thread must hold the record for the most unrelated posts, in the history of PH...

[loafer123]

Jimboka said:

This thread must hold the record for the most unrelated posts, in the history of PH...

Quarter to ten.

[anonymous-user]

loafer123 said:

Quarter to ten.

What band was I in? BBC pay me every summer
Damn paedo's in Rotherham

Any news on Cliff?

[hidetheelephants]

Jimboka said:

What band was I in? BBC pay me every summer
Damn paedo's in Rotherham

Any news on Cliff?

Precipitous; he's clearly responsible for the deaths of 4 young men in an AEC Routemaster, who plunged to their fiery doom when distracted by him.

For the slow witted and the litigous; this is a joke.

[Digga]

Jimboka said:

loafer123 said:

Quarter to ten.

What band was I in? BBC pay me every summer
Damn paedo's in Rotherham

Any news on Cliff?

Can't tell you; D notice.

[Vipers]

The authorities should scale this right down, and concentrate on the Rotherham one. If todays papers are right when it said files were destroyed and computer drives cleaned, we need a massive in depth investigation right now.

Edited by Vipers on Friday 29th August 18:29

[carinaman]

Vipers said:

If todays papers are right when it said files were destroyed and computer drives cleaned, we need a massive in depth investigation right now.

I hadn't heard that.

That's unfortunate when Simon Danczuk kicked Sir Peter Fahy over failures to deal with sex crimes:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2726975/...

Then Sir Peter Fahy wants the police to have access to our medical records because it will help the police serve the public better:

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/aug/10/pol...

I guess Sir Peter Fahy has forgotten about these:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-26275858

http://www.bigbrotherwatch.org.uk/home/2014/02/pol...


The politicians and the police are little different from the 'do as I say, not as I do' community elders that are reigning over their communities.

So much for 'If you've done nothing wrong, you have nothing to hide'.


The link to Cliff? How can South Yorks. Police be ferreting around the penthouse of Sir Cliff looking for evidence of an offence 30 years ago while destroying evidence about offenders and victims this century? The police are supposed to be impartial. Impartiality is mentioned on the Constable's Oath.

Edited by carinaman on Friday 29th August 22:30