Missouri Riots
Discussion
Ummm not seen this thread seems to be an argument (exactly how I'd expect it)
Anyway prepare for riots in Utah. Apparently an unarmed white man was shot to death by a black police officer 10 or so days ago. This has been kept quiet by the media. No milage in stirring up Mormons probably.
Obviously the usual suspects want to make this about race. I personally think it's about how the way us police are trained comply with any request or get shot. ( obviously don't know if this was a good shoot or not yet)
Plenty of unarmed white people also get shot by police one particular case stands out a young man who was burned in a car accident was shot by police who didn't want blood on them. There are many others.
That's before we get onto no knock warrants, swatting etc etc.
Anyway prepare for riots in Utah. Apparently an unarmed white man was shot to death by a black police officer 10 or so days ago. This has been kept quiet by the media. No milage in stirring up Mormons probably.
Obviously the usual suspects want to make this about race. I personally think it's about how the way us police are trained comply with any request or get shot. ( obviously don't know if this was a good shoot or not yet)
Plenty of unarmed white people also get shot by police one particular case stands out a young man who was burned in a car accident was shot by police who didn't want blood on them. There are many others.
That's before we get onto no knock warrants, swatting etc etc.
Edited by Pesty on Thursday 21st August 15:47
Jimbeaux said:
There were 12,000,000 arrests in the U.S. in 2012 (FBI statistics). 99.9% did not result in any gunfire or gun wounding by police (FBI statistics). No need to show the shocking stats for black on black crime as that seems to have no effect here.
Jim those stats will always be ignored by some. Only a few weeks ago Chicago I think there were 60 shootings and the week after 40 drive by shooting somewhere else.Until people are willing to look at uncomfortable truths nothing will change.
There is a man again on youtube commenting about the original case worth watching.
Here it is. Interesting take.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5f0mVn0HH6U
jdw100 said:
Pesty said:
particular case stands out a young man who was burned in a car accident was shot by police who didn't want blood on them.
What?I stare in disbelief at the so-called journalists and community leaders who speak of justice and in the same breath condemn the cop. A cornerstone of our justice is innocent until proven guilty; the investigation is still underway. IF.....it is found that this cop was being run at a second time (some reports indicate his eye socket was crushed in the initial attack) and was defending his life, that would show him justified. I swear to you that those same "justice seekers" will have nothing to do with justice but still call for revenge and burn more places down. The truth will not matter.
Jimbeaux said:
I stare in disbelief at the so-called journalists and community leaders who speak of justice and in the same breath condemn the cop. A cornerstone of our justice is innocent until proven guilty; the investigation is still underway. IF.....it is found that this cop was being run at a second time (some reports indicate his eye socket was crushed in the initial attack) and was defending his life, that would show him justified. I swear to you that those same "justice seekers" will have nothing to do with justice but still call for revenge and burn more places down. The truth will not matter.
Yes, nothing new there though is there. The media want to stir this up not give a balanced view. It's almost as if they want riots.Jimbeaux said:
dudleybloke said:
They've tried the free music studio idea loads of times in certain parts of brum.
Every time they get used to make raps dissing rival gangs, the fallout of which usually ends up with more violence.
Then the equipment gets stolen.
Typical and sadly predictable.Every time they get used to make raps dissing rival gangs, the fallout of which usually ends up with more violence.
Then the equipment gets stolen.
dudleybloke said:
The really annoying thing about it is a lot of these studio ventures, which have been started with the best of intentions, is they've got fantastic links to people in the industry but its all gets wasted on people who don't deserve it.
Isn't that partly why we are where we are? Everyone in these kids lives(and they are still kids, despite the origin of this thread being built like a Buick) telling them they have no future and nothing to live for and demonstrating it by having st lives themselves. How you even begin to address that without the active assistance or participation of the parents I cannot imagine. Pesty said:
Jimbeaux said:
I stare in disbelief at the so-called journalists and community leaders who speak of justice and in the same breath condemn the cop. A cornerstone of our justice is innocent until proven guilty; the investigation is still underway. IF.....it is found that this cop was being run at a second time (some reports indicate his eye socket was crushed in the initial attack) and was defending his life, that would show him justified. I swear to you that those same "justice seekers" will have nothing to do with justice but still call for revenge and burn more places down. The truth will not matter.
Yes, nothing new there though is there. The media want to stir this up not give a balanced view. It's almost as if they want riots.hidetheelephants said:
Isn't that partly why we are where we are? Everyone in these kids lives(and they are still kids, despite the origin of this thread being built like a Buick) telling them they have no future and nothing to live for and demonstrating it by having st lives themselves. How you even begin to address that without the active assistance or participation of the parents I cannot imagine.
But its not.In the west midlands black girls tend to do very well in education.
they have the same parents, backgrounds and economic hardships as the black lads but they don't seem to be held back by the usual excuses.
LucreLout said:
Any shade of ethnic skin colour is a positive advantage in Britain, not only do diversity targets drive hiring, but they also now drive promotions. A pair of tits and a preference for your own gender make it the holy trinity of opportunity - you just need to grab it instead of moaning about what my grandfather said about your grandfather. Its not relevant anymore, for either of us.
You have now completed your transformation into Alf Garnett. Well done.unrepentant said:
Pesty said:
Jimbeaux said:
I stare in disbelief at the so-called journalists and community leaders who speak of justice and in the same breath condemn the cop. A cornerstone of our justice is innocent until proven guilty; the investigation is still underway. IF.....it is found that this cop was being run at a second time (some reports indicate his eye socket was crushed in the initial attack) and was defending his life, that would show him justified. I swear to you that those same "justice seekers" will have nothing to do with justice but still call for revenge and burn more places down. The truth will not matter.
Yes, nothing new there though is there. The media want to stir this up not give a balanced view. It's almost as if they want riots.Maybe, or maybe their recollection of the event is subject to normal human psychology and cognitive bias in high stress situations. Although this is too complex a subject for the media and others to discuss and consider.
It probably wasn't a good idea to shout "shoot me, shoot me" to armed officers whilst walking towards them with a knife.
It probably wasn't a good idea to shout "shoot me, shoot me" to armed officers whilst walking towards them with a knife.
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