Missouri Riots

[jdw100]

irocfan said:

well let's add a few things up for you zee:

kid was jaywalking (minor misdemeanor to be fair), actually walking down the centre of the road not exactly guaranteed to increase your life expectancy
assaulted a cop (if we believe the cop)
held up a convenience store

if he'd not done either of the 1st 2 he'd still be alive. If he'd continued with #3 he'd likely have ended up dead as well

Oh well then. Case closed Your Honour!

Any of those three either individually or in combination definitely deserves being shot dead.

(For the benefit of our American readers: I am using my sarcastic voice)

[scherzkeks]

Pesty said:

http://www.foxnews.com/

[babatunde]

jdw100 said:

irocfan said:

well let's add a few things up for you zee:

kid was jaywalking (minor misdemeanor to be fair), actually walking down the centre of the road not exactly guaranteed to increase your life expectancy
assaulted a cop (if we believe the cop)
held up a convenience store

if he'd not done either of the 1st 2 he'd still be alive. If he'd continued with #3 he'd likely have ended up dead as well

Oh well then. Case closed Your Honour!

Any of those three either individually or in combination definitely deserves being shot dead.

(For the benefit of our American readers: I am using my sarcastic voice)

Yep, Offence: Jaywalking, verdict: guilty as charged, sentence: death penalty

Above is the long and short of this whole incident, notice that the police apologists neglect the fact that his "accompanist" in the so called "Strong Arm Robbery" hasn't been charged, which points to the fact that there probably wasn't a robbery in the first place.
But then I guess a black youth in America is guilty by default.

[jdw100]

babatunde said:

Yep, Offence: Jaywalking, verdict: guilty as charged, sentence: death penalty

You are Judge Dredd AICMFP!

Welcome to Mega City One.

[irocfan]

babatunde said:

jdw100 said:

irocfan said:

well let's add a few things up for you zee:

kid was jaywalking (minor misdemeanor to be fair), actually walking down the centre of the road not exactly guaranteed to increase your life expectancy
assaulted a cop (if we believe the cop)
held up a convenience store

if he'd not done either of the 1st 2 he'd still be alive. If he'd continued with #3 he'd likely have ended up dead as well

Oh well then. Case closed Your Honour!

Any of those three either individually or in combination definitely deserves being shot dead.

(For the benefit of our American readers: I am using my sarcastic voice)

Yep, Offence: Jaywalking, verdict: guilty as charged, sentence: death penalty

Above is the long and short of this whole incident, notice that the police apologists neglect the fact that his "accompanist" in the so called "Strong Arm Robbery" hasn't been charged, which points to the fact that there probably wasn't a robbery in the first place.
But then I guess a black youth in America is guilty by default.

well if you got your head out of your sarcastic arse you'd note that I did state that jaywalking is a minor misdemeanor and even you should sense from that statement that it shouldn't lead to being shot, but for the hard of thinking let me make this perfectly clear... "JAYWLKING SHOULD NOT LEAD TO BEING SHOT"... there we go is that clear enough for you?

As for assaulting a cop (if that's what happened)... well you're on your own on that one - if you're that stupid then it's Darwinism in action. As for the last issue - how else would you interpret a 6'4" 20stone bloke holding someone up by the throat? Was that just a lark and friendly greeting?

Now if we add together an earlier felony and the fact that the cop just stopped him isn't it just possible (even in your liberal state of mind) that the afore mentioned bloke thought "...fk me, the 5-0 has me by the short ones, what can I do to get out of this?" Unfortunately it went horribly wrong for him. As an aside I don't see anyone saying he didn't actually hold up said store...

As someone mentioned earlier had this been in the UK he'd have been '... a promising footballer...'

[anonymous-user]

Matt Harper said:

La Liga said:

It's apparently a lot harder to build a tolerance up to pepper spray than it were for CS (horrible stuff).

There are still the issues of missing / partial hit / taking time to work.

This guy receives lots of it to the face and can still function: http://youtu.be/lTiZb6cXoqA

I suspect he's atypical though and perhaps under the influence of PCP or similar.

No doubt atypical. The risk of someone atypical with a knife approaching you is still too great to take chances with.

I've seen pepper spray work, not work and be delayed. Too much uncertainty for a lethal threat.

[Jimbeaux]

unrepentant said:

Pesty said:

The White House sent three officials to attend Monday's funeral for Michael Brown in St. Louis -- three more than it sent for former British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher's funeral last year.

The administration's handling of the Brown funeral already has started to raise comparisons between the two.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/08/25/more-wh...

It has? On FOX News? Seriously? Fox news is a right wing joke of a "news" organization that has a visceral hatred of Obama and is a megaphone for the racist and divisive elements of the republican party that just cannot accept that a black man was elected president. I'm guessing you must get your UK news from the Sun because that's about the standard of lowest common denominator reporting you get from FOX.

Nobody in the Obama White House ever met Thatcher so Obama was represented by two very senior former politicians who knew her well together with a former ambassador to the UK. Very appropriate. Or would you prefer he'd sent some young staffers who never met her? You think that would be better? Did you think at all before posting that?

In the case of Michael Brown's funeral one of the attendees was a school friend of the slain boys mother and another was the chairman of the My Brothers Keeper task force.

This is true. Although sending any WH official to this funeral definately has a political angle, they did have ties to the town/person. As to your "people are mad a black (half black) man was elected POTUS".....it is his policies, not his race that rattles most IMO. I would love to vote for Ben Carson for POTUS, he is very black.

[Jimbeaux]

scherzkeks said:

Pesty said:

http://www.foxnews.com/

Maybe he should have quoted MSNBC, that'd been worth two

[unrepentant]

Jimbeaux said:

As to your "people are mad a black (half black) man was elected POTUS".....it is his policies, not his race that rattles most IMO. I would love to vote for Ben Carson for POTUS, he is very black.

Sorry, you're wrong. There are a LOT of FOX news viewing white Americans who hate Obama simply because he's black. That's why FOX panders to that demographic with very slanted reportage of this kind of issue. You seem unwilling to beleve that the semi educated white "redneck" (for use of a better word) electorate vote republican. They do and a lot of pretty overt racism exists in that group. Drive around the trailer parks and the poor white areas during the next election and you'll see a lot of republican yard signs and hardly any democrat ones. On the contrary in my experience most educated whites (particularly those under 50) in good jobs tend to think more progressively and lean democrat. I'm sure things are different in the deep south.....

[Jimbeaux]

unrepentant said:

Jimbeaux said:

As to your "people are mad a black (half black) man was elected POTUS".....it is his policies, not his race that rattles most IMO. I would love to vote for Ben Carson for POTUS, he is very black.

Sorry, you're wrong. There are a LOT of FOX news viewing white Americans who hate Obama simply because he's black. That's why FOX panders to that demographic with very slanted reportage of this kind of issue. You seem unwilling to beleve that the semi educated white "redneck" (for use of a better word) electorate vote republican. They do and a lot of pretty overt racism exists in that group. Drive around the trailer parks and the poor white areas during the next election and you'll see a lot of republican yard signs and hardly any democrat ones. On the contrary in my experience most educated whites (particularly those under 50) in good jobs tend to think more progressively and lean democrat. I'm sure things are different in the deep south.....

Let's be clear, there is just as much hate on the black side going the other way; racism goes both ways. I could show you poor uneducated black areas with Dem signs. I believe you are being a bit too all or nothing on this TBH. Of course there is some of what you describe but it by no means is all what you describe. As for me personally, it is about policy, to that point, I like Dr. Ben Carson's views.

[unrepentant]

Jimbeaux said:

I could show you poor uneducated black areas with Dem signs.

Eh? Of course you can. They should be voting democrat, it's in their interest to do so. The republicans haven't exactly got their back have they?

Why do white trailer dwellers vote republican though? It's hardly in their economic interests as most of them are in the "47%". I'll help you out. It's becuase they believe (because they are told it by FOX and others) that "liberals" want to take away their guns and because they believe that "liberals" want to let more brown people into the country and they really don't like people who are brown. Oh and Obama is a "Kenyan born Muslim". He must be because they hear it all the time from Limbaugh, Donald Trump etc....

[Jimbeaux]

unrepentant said:

Jimbeaux said:

I could show you poor uneducated black areas with Dem signs.

Eh? Of course you can. They should be voting democrat, it's in their interest to do so. The republicans haven't exactly got their back have they?

Why do white trailer dwellers vote republican though? It's hardly in their economic interests as most of them are in the "47%". I'll help you out. It's becuase they believe (because they are told it by FOX and others) that "liberals" want to take away their guns and because they believe that "liberals" want to let more brown people into the country and they really don't like people who are brown. Oh and Obama is a "Kenyan born Muslim". He must be because they hear it all the time from Limbaugh, Donald Trump etc....

Well, again, to be a bit less extreme than your view.....I can show you large swaths of such "white trailer dwellers" who vote Democrat. They receive government assistance and want it to continue.
You say poor blacks vote Dems because it is in their economic interest but claim poor whites vote GOP because they are uneducated and misled. Blacks are not misled by Dems to perpetuate an endless cycle of poverty-for-votes? You see, it is some of what we both say but not all or the other. Again to my point however, I share the view of many who do not support Obama because we feel his policies are not helpful. I would support the (very black) Ben Carson if he ran as I agree with his views. No need for us to argue though, we just have different opinions.

[scherzkeks]

Jimbeaux said:

Maybe he should have quoted MSNBC, that'd been worth two

I tend to read Die Zeit. Das kannst'e nicht, oder?

[unrepentant]

Which liberal wrote this in response to the situation in Ferguson;


"Given the racial disparities in our criminal justice system, it is impossible for African-Americans not to feel like their government is particularly targeting them. This is part of the anguish we are seeing in the tragic events outside of St. Louis, Missouri. It is what the citizens of Ferguson feel when there is an unfortunate and heartbreaking shooting like the incident with Michael Brown. There is a legitimate role for the police to keep the peace, but there should be a difference between a police response and a military response. The images and scenes we continue to see in Ferguson resemble war more than traditional police action. Washington has incentivized the militarization of local police precincts by using federal dollars to help municipal governments build what are essentially small armies."

(No Googling allowed!)

[Jimbeaux]

scherzkeks said:

Jimbeaux said:

Maybe he should have quoted MSNBC, that'd been worth two

I tend to read Die Zeit. Das kannst'e nicht, oder?

"The Time" is well regarded; however, it is a left leaning socially liberal organization by most accounts. It is slid under my hotel door when I stay in Frankfurt. Sounds like your kind of rag. Would you like me to renew your subscription? Call is a belated B-Day present for your newborn.

[scherzkeks]

Jimbeaux said:

"The Time" is well regarded; however, it is a left leaning socially liberal organization by most accounts. It is slid under my hotel door when I stay in Frankfurt. Sounds like your kind of rag.

It comes out once a week, so it doesn't fit under a door.

I love this.

[Jimbeaux]

scherzkeks said:

Jimbeaux said:

"The Time" is well regarded; however, it is a left leaning socially liberal organization by most accounts. It is slid under my hotel door when I stay in Frankfurt. Sounds like your kind of rag.

It comes out once a week, so it doesn't fit under a door.

I love this.

Outside the door if we must be specific. Yes, it is very large as most newspapers go. I appreciate them giving it although I have not read it. Oh, some advice just between us;
Aufhören zu versuchen, übermäßig intelligent, um zu erscheinen, es dient nur dazu, damit Sie sich dumm und lächerlich highbrow aussehen. Handeln mit mehr Würde.

[scherzkeks]

Jimbeaux said:

Outside the door if we must be specific. Yes, it is very large as most newspapers go. I appreciate them giving it although I have not read it. Oh, some advice just between us;
Aufhören zu versuchen, übermäßig intelligent, um zu erscheinen, es dient nur dazu, damit Sie sich dumm und lächerlich highbrow aussehen. Handeln mit mehr Würde.

Not the worst auto-translate result I've ever seen, but the funniest use of one.

Hustle, hustle.

[Jimbeaux]

scherzkeks said:

Jimbeaux said:

Outside the door if we must be specific. Yes, it is very large as most newspapers go. I appreciate them giving it although I have not read it. Oh, some advice just between us;
Aufhören zu versuchen, übermäßig intelligent, um zu erscheinen, es dient nur dazu, damit Sie sich dumm und lächerlich highbrow aussehen. Handeln mit mehr Würde.

Not the worst auto-translate result I've ever seen, but the funniest use of one.

Hustle, hustle.

Actually me, not translator; I would assume a translator would do a better job. Oh, a comment on your disdain for "hustlers":
"Things may come to those who wait, but only the things left by those who hustle" - Abraham Lincoln

[scherzkeks]

Jimbeaux said:

Actually me, not translator;

Trust me, Jim. You don't want to take credit for that collection of random clauses.