Missouri Riots
Discussion
GCH said:
Shots are (roughly) in a line and all shot from the front.
Was he charging the officer and the shots are in a rising pattern?
Officer stops them for walking in the road unaware they were robbery suspects. Michael, knowing he has committed a robbery, panics and gets confrontational?
6 ft 3, built like an NFL tight end, charging aggressively? 6 shots from a glock or beretta come off very quickly.
I know a few cops, and discharging their weapon - and the consequences thereof- is not something they take lightly.
In a rising pattern assumes the arms were down, arms in the air would suggest something entirely different...... Was he charging the officer and the shots are in a rising pattern?
Officer stops them for walking in the road unaware they were robbery suspects. Michael, knowing he has committed a robbery, panics and gets confrontational?
6 ft 3, built like an NFL tight end, charging aggressively? 6 shots from a glock or beretta come off very quickly.
I know a few cops, and discharging their weapon - and the consequences thereof- is not something they take lightly.
Edited by GCH on Monday 18th August 18:07
Guam said:
Shot six times and not from close range, Autopsy results here.
Might be difficult to justify this one by the Police I feel.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2727568/Au...
Explain why!? If you need to shoot, you shoot multiple times. You don't shoot unless absolutely necessary, and then you shoot to stop and stop dead. Whether the second, third, fourth hit the head of not makes no difference, you say yourself it wasn't at close range so it is fair to say the one that hit his head was no doubt luck more then anything. Might be difficult to justify this one by the Police I feel.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2727568/Au...
Edit:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/18/fergu...
Explained quite clearly there, f
king man mountain of a man legging it towards you, momentum and adrenaline would still move him several paces before the headshot brought him down... Edited by Andehh on Tuesday 19th August 10:18
Mark my words, this will eventually unfold (after much beating round the bush and rioting) to be Mr Brown was doing something he shouldn't have been, acted aggressively, officer felt his life was in danger and shot, and he will be cleared of charges and reinstated. Mr Brown will not have been a high school grad innocently walking towards police with his hands in the air, and his mates will have lied to the world protesting his innocence and it unfolded.
fido said:
Perhaps, but some of them seem to lack the conviction and honesty of those who gave them the freedom to develop that tolerance.
For every Martin Luther King we have many more Al Sharptons.
Good to know I could stand outside the supermarket you use with an AK, waiting for a security tag to go off so I could rid the world of dishonest scum.For every Martin Luther King we have many more Al Sharptons.
Because hey, f
k trials. They're boring and sometimes they say things I don't like, like "not guilty".paranoid airbag said:
They're boring and sometimes they say things I don't like, like "not guilty".
Indeed - like in the T. Martin case. Though I guess it's easier to riot and loot from your own community? We should also wait for the toxicology report as well - might explain the victims aggressive behaviour (if indeed he was behaving aggressively).Yet another public black figure came forward last night on the networks and stated:
"A false narrative is being forwarded. One that implies the black community is afraid of the police because the police are killing members of their community. Let's be honest, the young black bodies being stacked in morgues around the nation are not put there by police but by other young black men. This particular incident may well prove to be the officer's fault or it may not. Regardless, the very infrequent shooting of a black person by police, and it is very infrequent, is nearly insignificant when compared to black on black violence".
On another network, the Rev. Jessee L. Peterson stated:
"Martin L. King, in a speech, stated that we are only 10% of the population yet we account for 58% of the crimes, we need to establish and nurture a moral direction in our lives and the lives of our children. Compare that to the poverty pimps of today, like Sharpton, who call looters liberators. This case was not neccessarily about race until you have the race-hustlers and poverty pimps like Al Sharpton and others who turned it into a race issue in order to gain power and wealth,".
"A false narrative is being forwarded. One that implies the black community is afraid of the police because the police are killing members of their community. Let's be honest, the young black bodies being stacked in morgues around the nation are not put there by police but by other young black men. This particular incident may well prove to be the officer's fault or it may not. Regardless, the very infrequent shooting of a black person by police, and it is very infrequent, is nearly insignificant when compared to black on black violence".
On another network, the Rev. Jessee L. Peterson stated:
"Martin L. King, in a speech, stated that we are only 10% of the population yet we account for 58% of the crimes, we need to establish and nurture a moral direction in our lives and the lives of our children. Compare that to the poverty pimps of today, like Sharpton, who call looters liberators. This case was not neccessarily about race until you have the race-hustlers and poverty pimps like Al Sharpton and others who turned it into a race issue in order to gain power and wealth,".
Edited by Jimbeaux on Tuesday 19th August 14:26
Jimbeaux said:
Yet another public black figure came forward last night on the networks and stated:
"A false narrative is being forwarded. One that implies the black community is afraid of the police because the police are killing members of their community. Let's be honest, the young black bodies being stacked in morgues around the nation are not put there by police but by other young black men. This particular incident may well prove to be the officer's fault or it may not. Regardless, the very infrequent shooting of a black person by police, and it is very infrequent, is nearly insignificant when compared to black on black violence".
On another network, the Rev. Jessee L. Peterson stated:
"Martin L. King, in a speech, stated that we are only 10% of the population yet we account for 58% of the crimes, we need to establish and nurture a moral direction in our lives and the lives of our children. Compare that to the poverty pimps of today, like Sharpton, who call looters liberators. This case was not neccessarily about race until you have the race-hustlers and poverty pimps like Al Sharpton and others who turned it into a race issue in order to gain power and wealth,".
Cant argue with that."A false narrative is being forwarded. One that implies the black community is afraid of the police because the police are killing members of their community. Let's be honest, the young black bodies being stacked in morgues around the nation are not put there by police but by other young black men. This particular incident may well prove to be the officer's fault or it may not. Regardless, the very infrequent shooting of a black person by police, and it is very infrequent, is nearly insignificant when compared to black on black violence".
On another network, the Rev. Jessee L. Peterson stated:
"Martin L. King, in a speech, stated that we are only 10% of the population yet we account for 58% of the crimes, we need to establish and nurture a moral direction in our lives and the lives of our children. Compare that to the poverty pimps of today, like Sharpton, who call looters liberators. This case was not neccessarily about race until you have the race-hustlers and poverty pimps like Al Sharpton and others who turned it into a race issue in order to gain power and wealth,".
Edited by Jimbeaux on Tuesday 19th August 14:26
Huffington Post reporter Ryan J. Reilly in Ferguson, who had previously been arrested there, breaks another important story:
http://imgur.com/gallery/aRcwq
LOL
http://imgur.com/gallery/aRcwq
LOL
Beati Dogu said:
Huffington Post reporter Ryan J. Reilly in Ferguson, who had previously been arrested there, breaks another important story:
http://imgur.com/gallery/aRcwq
LOL
Yea a pal of mine in the states posted that one on facebook. The man is a fecking genius.http://imgur.com/gallery/aRcwq
LOL
Beati Dogu said:
Huffington Post reporter Ryan J. Reilly in Ferguson, who had previously been arrested there, breaks another important story:
http://imgur.com/gallery/aRcwq
LOL
What a dumbass. http://imgur.com/gallery/aRcwq
LOL
That is hilarious. The Huff staffers are so left and anti-gun that they know nothing about guns, including a rubber bullet from an earplug. WTF is the world coming to?Edited by Jimbeaux on Tuesday 19th August 18:45
Grumfutock said:
Jimbeaux said:
Yet another public black figure came forward last night on the networks and stated:
"A false narrative is being forwarded. One that implies the black community is afraid of the police because the police are killing members of their community. Let's be honest, the young black bodies being stacked in morgues around the nation are not put there by police but by other young black men. This particular incident may well prove to be the officer's fault or it may not. Regardless, the very infrequent shooting of a black person by police, and it is very infrequent, is nearly insignificant when compared to black on black violence".
On another network, the Rev. Jessee L. Peterson stated:
"Martin L. King, in a speech, stated that we are only 10% of the population yet we account for 58% of the crimes, we need to establish and nurture a moral direction in our lives and the lives of our children. Compare that to the poverty pimps of today, like Sharpton, who call looters liberators. This case was not neccessarily about race until you have the race-hustlers and poverty pimps like Al Sharpton and others who turned it into a race issue in order to gain power and wealth,".
Cant argue with that."A false narrative is being forwarded. One that implies the black community is afraid of the police because the police are killing members of their community. Let's be honest, the young black bodies being stacked in morgues around the nation are not put there by police but by other young black men. This particular incident may well prove to be the officer's fault or it may not. Regardless, the very infrequent shooting of a black person by police, and it is very infrequent, is nearly insignificant when compared to black on black violence".
On another network, the Rev. Jessee L. Peterson stated:
"Martin L. King, in a speech, stated that we are only 10% of the population yet we account for 58% of the crimes, we need to establish and nurture a moral direction in our lives and the lives of our children. Compare that to the poverty pimps of today, like Sharpton, who call looters liberators. This case was not neccessarily about race until you have the race-hustlers and poverty pimps like Al Sharpton and others who turned it into a race issue in order to gain power and wealth,".
Edited by Jimbeaux on Tuesday 19th August 14:26
I've got to say this whole thing is, for me, much greater than a single guy being shot in a minor town in a southern (ish) state of the US. Almost everything that's been discussed from a black guy being shot by a white cop, to crime stats, to representation in 'establishment' organisations such as police, local and national government and corporations hints at the underlying problem the US still has with racism. A friend of mine attended a BUNA camp in South Virginia in the 90's and there was a single black UK student at that camp. He was told in no uncertain terms not to go into town on his own and not to go into any bars etc without consulting the staff a the park first. I suspect it wouldn't be too much different today?
I've been interested to see/read various opinions that it's much harder for Obama to address the race issues in the US because he's black.
I can't see them finding a solution to thier problems any time soon but it does seem thier right to free speech doesn't help matters.
I've been interested to see/read various opinions that it's much harder for Obama to address the race issues in the US because he's black.
I can't see them finding a solution to thier problems any time soon but it does seem thier right to free speech doesn't help matters.
Andehh said:
Mark my words, this will eventually unfold (after much beating round the bush and rioting) to be Mr Brown was doing something he shouldn't have been, acted aggressively, officer felt his life was in danger and shot, and he will be cleared of charges and reinstated. Mr Brown will not have been a high school grad innocently walking towards police with his hands in the air, and his mates will have lied to the world protesting his innocence and it unfolded.
But are saying you think that's what actually happened?bhstewie said:
hstewie said: I think the simple reality is very few people know what happened, and at least one of those that does is dead.
I don't really get why racism seems to be implied practically every time a black man is shot dead by a Police officer.
Because the copper is white and put six bullets in a unarmed black man with his arms up.Predominantly black people area and no black coppers or very few.I don't really get why racism seems to be implied practically every time a black man is shot dead by a Police officer.
Obama is a puppet and he will never be the saviour of black people in the States.
Not saying the perp was a angel but he didn't deserve to die that way.
Biscuit dunker said:
I've been interested to see/read various opinions that it's much harder for Obama to address the race issues in the US because he's black.
No, it's because whenever opens his mouth on subjects like this, it's to say uninformed and deliberately inflamatory things like "he could have been my son" only to have the defendant found not guilty.I've not heard anything this time, perhaps he's learning to act presidential and keep quiet until the facts are in.
Foppo said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: I think the simple reality is very few people know what happened, and at least one of those that does is dead.
I don't really get why racism seems to be implied practically every time a black man is shot dead by a Police officer.
Because the copper is white and put six bullets in a unarmed black man with his arms up.Predominantly black people area and no black coppers or very few.I don't really get why racism seems to be implied practically every time a black man is shot dead by a Police officer.
Obama is a puppet and he will never be the saviour of black people in the States.
Not saying the perp was a angel but he didn't deserve to die that way.
Perhaps it wasn't justified, the investigation will determine that, but would the outcome have been different had the victim been white i.e. did colour play a part in the pulling of the trigger?
I'm just not a fan of the race card being played almost every time someone black is killed by someone white before the facts are established.
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