Tilbury - 35 found in container

Tilbury - 35 found in container

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CoolHands

18,696 posts

196 months

Sunday 17th August 2014
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more like why waste my time. As said, it's obvious.

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

124 months

Sunday 17th August 2014
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MajorProblem said:
I wouldn't give a fk if all 35 were dead. I'd have lorries drive thru gas chambers if I could. (Not very PC I know)
There is not very PC and then there is......

I'm quite far to the right when it comes to this topic but calling for mass murder seems a tad extreme to me.

MajorProblem

4,700 posts

165 months

Sunday 17th August 2014
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What benefit are they to us? They'll go on the streets / working for gangmasters / pimps / benefits etc...

They are no use to us at all. You need to think how fcked this country is going to be, not in the next 25 years but in the next 100+ years. Your great great grandkids will inherit an absolute st tip.

I'm kind of glad I'll be long gone, I dont expect it to be that enjoyable in my life time.

mph1977

12,467 posts

169 months

Sunday 17th August 2014
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CoolHands said:
anonymous said:
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outside my local selco (builders merchant) there are approx 50 manual labourers every morning. Most if not all of them are illegals. Are ukbf down there every morning picking them up? Of course not.
- how do you know they are illegals ? unless you've checked them yourself?

it's casual racism that because they are not aryans they must be illegals , regardless of the fact there are significant numbers of British people with some degree of South Asian, Arab or African blood who are legal and in many cases 3 or 4 th generation legal

this is before considering legal migrants, many of whom have 'no recourse to public funds' for 5 to 10 years after their arrival despite paying full tax and NI from day 1

nor does it consider asylum seekers notr other EU nationals


CoolHands

18,696 posts

196 months

Sunday 17th August 2014
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mph1977 said:
CoolHands said:
anonymous said:
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outside my local selco (builders merchant) there are approx 50 manual labourers every morning. Most if not all of them are illegals. Are ukbf down there every morning picking them up? Of course not.
- how do you know they are illegals ? unless you've checked them yourself?

and in many cases 3 or 4 th generation legal
yeah ok they often have to hang around on street corners getting cash-in-hand for casual labouring from builders

It's not rocket science but keep your blinkers on

mph1977

12,467 posts

169 months

Sunday 17th August 2014
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CoolHands said:
mph1977 said:
CoolHands said:
anonymous said:
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outside my local selco (builders merchant) there are approx 50 manual labourers every morning. Most if not all of them are illegals. Are ukbf down there every morning picking them up? Of course not.
- how do you know they are illegals ? unless you've checked them yourself?

and in many cases 3 or 4 th generation legal
yeah ok they often have to hang around on street corners getting cash-in-hand for casual labouring from builders

It's not rocket science but keep your blinkers on
so every one-man-band builder is registered under the CIS as an employer and fully declares all it's income ?

all the one man band builders require CSCS cards, CITB, RTITB and IPAF certificates ?

try getting on a legit building site without CSCS and other tickets

there is a hell of a lot of grey economy work in building

Pebbles167

3,458 posts

153 months

Sunday 17th August 2014
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From Afghanistan apparently. Long ass journey!

dudleybloke

19,859 posts

187 months

Sunday 17th August 2014
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Talk of gas chambers is silly.what we need is a law requiring fire suppression systems installed in every container and lorry trailer.
Not only will it improve fire safety but the mid journey test purge with Halon should do the job regarding the illegals.

Market it as a health and safety device and not a genocide machine, silly I know but in this PC modern world we can't be seen to take action against criminals.

Vote dudleybloke!
wink

davepoth

29,395 posts

200 months

Sunday 17th August 2014
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pcvdriver said:
....also less children going to school having the knock on effect of less need for schools, so school closures - the vicious circle tightens.....and so on and so on - truly a race to the bottom...


By the way Dave, I had you in the "fk off we're full camp" - shows what assumptions can do eh? : ;-) :

Edited by pcvdriver on Sunday 17th August 12:17
As my dear old dad would say, "to assume makes an 'ass' of 'u' and 'me'". wink

Immigration is great and vital for a developed economy with an ageing population (like the UK, or Scotland). If it's not managed effectively it can cause conflict, and I believe that it's an EU-wide problem that needs an EU-wide solution.

Russ T Bolt

1,689 posts

284 months

Sunday 17th August 2014
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pcvdriver said:
but we need a level of immigration in excess of the 50's and 60's to actually pay the taxes that support our elderly. I for one don't want to have to work into my 80's
Do illegal immigrants pay taxes ?

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

55 months

Sunday 17th August 2014
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CoolHands said:
meh

I've got my own job to do properly instead.
Aahh confirmed as i thought a typical whining keyboard warrior,
Is that your job per chance ?

Because it's took you longer to wine about it now than to do something about it wobble

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

205 months

Sunday 17th August 2014
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pcvdriver said:
Willy Nilly said:
Do you think an iScotland will have much trouble with people in shipping containers?
Not at all.... in fact we'll be welcoming them in,
I think he was talking about leaving Scotland

Not coming here once you have your left wing utopia

wolves_wanderer

12,387 posts

238 months

Sunday 17th August 2014
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MajorProblem said:
W

I'm kind of glad I'll be long gone,
From the half witted filth you've posted in this thread, I think we can all agree on that.

El Guapo

2,787 posts

191 months

Sunday 17th August 2014
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The question isn't whether or not we need immigration to support our ageing population, it's whether we should have an immigration policy with associated rules that are enforced or simply open our borders to all and sundry.
These economic refugees had already found their way into the EU but felt it necessary to continue their journey to the UK. There are reasons for this, chief among them being the knowledge that the UK is "soft" on illegal immigrants. They know that they are less likely to receive economic aid in Italy, Germany or France than they are in the UK. It is for the same reason that there are encampments of illegal immigrants in Calais trying to make their way here.
I am not against immigration, but I am against tolerance to illegal immigration.

rolex

3,112 posts

259 months

Sunday 17th August 2014
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Thank goodness they got most of them out in time, otherwise it could have opened a can of worms

Edited by rolex on Sunday 17th August 21:39

Enricogto

646 posts

146 months

Sunday 17th August 2014
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El Guapo said:
There are reasons for this, chief among them being the knowledge that the UK is "soft" on illegal immigrants. They know that they are less likely to receive economic aid in Italy, Germany or France than they are in the UK.
A little bit of digging may reveal that last year Germany had the largest number of asylum seekers of the whole EU, or that Italy since the beginning of this year has already recovered 60.000 people who have crossed the Med to escape from wars and "arab springs" that we helped to start/supported. In that perspective the 35 found in Tilbury are just tiny numbers, and the exceptionality of that has made the news headline.

mph1977

12,467 posts

169 months

Sunday 17th August 2014
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Enricogto said:
El Guapo said:
There are reasons for this, chief among them being the knowledge that the UK is "soft" on illegal immigrants. They know that they are less likely to receive economic aid in Italy, Germany or France than they are in the UK.
A little bit of digging may reveal that last year Germany had the largest number of asylum seekers of the whole EU, or that Italy since the beginning of this year has already recovered 60.000 people who have crossed the Med to escape from wars and "arab springs" that we helped to start/supported. In that perspective the 35 found in Tilbury are just tiny numbers, and the exceptionality of that has made the news headline.
it;s France that has the collective 'problem' with migrants - as has been said Germany has significant numbers of people heading towards it;s borders and accepts at least for asylum / processing many of them ...

sometimes peopel are headign to the UK becasue they know there are established communities in the uK from their place of origin, other times it;s becasue English is the european language they speak ... also given the way the french treat them it's unsuprising they want to head for the UK ...

Wilmslowboy

4,215 posts

207 months

Sunday 17th August 2014
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It's very sad and complex.

If I was unfortunate enough to have been born in some poor, war zone, religious zealot country I would do everything to get myself and family to a better place.

I don't care for their cultures and religions however they are humans and at the core they aim to do what 99% of people over the world want to do, give their children a better life than them. (Often taking great risks to achieve it).

As I said it's a very complex issue......

blindswelledrat

25,257 posts

233 months

Monday 18th August 2014
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wolves_wanderer said:
MajorProblem said:
W

I'm kind of glad I'll be long gone,
From the half witted filth you've posted in this thread, I think we can all agree on that.
Agreed.
The major problem is that he doesn't seem to have realised he was born in a tolerant non-racist society.
The delicious irony is that the only places that would cater adequately for his intolerance is a strict Islamic state.
Hope he fks off and enjoys it.

Simpo Two

85,556 posts

266 months

Monday 18th August 2014
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El Guapo said:
I am not against immigration, but I am against tolerance to illegal immigration.
What I picked up on is that the media call these people 'Migrants'.

Is the phrase 'Illegal immigrant' now non-PC? Is 'Migrant' supposed to be more politcially acceptable and/or used to reduce the risk off setting off the population's alarm bells?

'Migrant' implies legality, as in 'Migrant workers'.

Patch 'em up and send 'em back.