Burning birds

[irocfan]

unpc said:

John145 said:

depends on the species you moron.

180000 blue tits, blackbirds, robins, house sparrows fair enough.

10,000 migrating geese can be a bit more severe when global populations are only in 7 figures.

Sensitive much?

I don't think cats give a fk which species they eat. It'd be pretty unlucky for 10000 geese to fly in to a wind farm don't you think?

no need for name calling but that being said I'd hate to meet the cat who could take down a goose!!! fking terrifying

[Grumfutock]

John145 said:

unpc said:

I worked in the wind energy business for a while and the fecking tree huggers were wringing their hands over a few dead birds so someone did a study and calculated that around 10000 birds get dissected by wind turbines in the UK each year. How awful, but to put that in perspective, 180000 are killed just in Denmark each year by domestic cats.

depends on the species you moron.

180000 blue tits, blackbirds, robins, house sparrows fair enough.

10,000 migrating geese can be a bit more severe when global populations are only in 7 figures.

Yea because 10,000 when the population is 7 figures is going to make a huge difference. Is that 1,000,000 or 9,999,999?

[Jimbeaux]

After reading the title here, I thought for a moment that Goldeneye had come online.

[ATG]

Oakey said:

So we should throw cats into the solar death ray too?

You could throw them, but I'd use a catapult.

[Mr Sparkle]

TLandCruiser said:

ATG said:

More to the point, who cares? Does it matter if a few birds go up in smoke? Don't think there's much evidence that birds get shredded by wind farms, but even if there was, do we really care?

Yes because it leads to consequences which can have a bad effect to the ecosystem, going by the figure thats quoted in the article means that 262,800 birds are roughly killed a year, those birds are not eating the insects in the area which then overwhelm and kill local crops for instance.

Then we need to build another Solar Death Ray to kill the insects.

[Jasandjules]

ATG said:

More to the point, who cares? Does it matter if a few birds go up in smoke? Don't think there's much evidence that birds get shredded by wind farms, but even if there was, do we really care?

I don't care if Greenpeace staff go up bit birds are important.

[Pit Pony]

Grumfutock said:

Oh for he love of god. Pass the tree, I need to hug something.

I can put a "LOG" in the post if you send me your address.

[Grumfutock]

Pit Pony said:

Grumfutock said:

Oh for he love of god. Pass the tree, I need to hug something.

I can put a "LOG" in the post if you send me your address.

Can I burn it or will it pollute the atmosphere?

[FredClogs]

Grumfutock said:

Pit Pony said:

Grumfutock said:

Oh for he love of god. Pass the tree, I need to hug something.

I can put a "LOG" in the post if you send me your address.

Can I burn it or will it pollute the atmosphere?

He meant a turd.

Hth

[V8 Fettler]

Save birds: build AGRs

[Oakey]

FredClogs said:

He meant a turd.

Hth

Thank you Captain Obvious.

[DonnyMac]

ATG said:

Oakey said:

So we should throw cats into the solar death ray too?

You could throw them, but I'd use a catapult.

Never ever suggest a mere catapult when everyone knows only a trebuchet will do.

Tut.

[RDMcG]

Shame chickens can't fly....

set up a barbecue joint at the edge.

[mybrainhurts]

Birds burning and crashing?

Can we get Davina McCall airborne somehow?

Does Harriet Harman qualify as a bird?

[so called]

I would hazard a guess that all of the different energy industries result in animals suffering, feathered or otherwise.
I don't mean oil slick accidents etc. but simply the mining, drilling, fracking operations.

Oh and I guess you can add boys with air guns to the list of bird killers.

[Jader1973]

Breadvan72 said:

we should have huge fuggoff solar collector set ups in the Sahara, central Australia etc.

Ironically Aus is about to cut the renewable energy target and a company that was planning a solar array has pulled the plug.

[Grumfutock]

FredClogs said:

Grumfutock said:

Pit Pony said:

Grumfutock said:

Oh for he love of god. Pass the tree, I need to hug something.

I can put a "LOG" in the post if you send me your address.

Can I burn it or will it pollute the atmosphere?

He meant a turd.

Hth

Yea think?

[Jasandjules]

What naturally predates on birds is a totally different issue to what we do.

I am quite sure the Dodo had natural predators yet nature managed it all well. Until humans came along. That is the issue, we interfere with nature and f**k it all up, leading to extinctions.

[tescorank]

1. Other Birds
2. Cats
3. Whales
4. Cars
5. Sharks
6. Seals
7. Shot guns
8. Solar death ray's
9. Baking Soda and water within close proximity
10.Gin and bread
11.Jet engines
12.Runaway lawnmowers

[Digga]

Rude-boy said:

Digga said:

Environmental 'quick fixes' are often the subject of some fairly limited thinking IMHO. Witness right now the apparent U-turn on diesel which is going to have widespread significance for many and very great cost, both on the way from petrol to derv and now again as the pendelum of legislation swings back.

Sorry have to pull you up on this one.

On the face of it you are correct. However tell me that you didn't see this a mile away? Tell me that you were not seeing us discussing on this very forum how it will take a few years and then it will be 'OMG Diesel is bad, we must tax it more!' It's nothing to do with the planet, it's all to do with the tax take.

Those who think that the global governments of the day have any interest in the planet beyond what the individuals involved can get out of it in their lifetime are naïve to be polite.

Yes, you're correct that this specific example is perhaps a poor one to illustrate unintended consequences, but nevertheless, they do exist and can bee seen at work on many an ill-conceived project where dogma and idealism (and especially politicians) dictate the pace and direction of 'innovation'.