Yet another UKIP blunder

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voyds9

8,488 posts

283 months

Monday 18th August 2014
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"No-one has ever spoken about me like that before."

Hate to break it you, they have, you just haven't heard them.

s2art

18,937 posts

253 months

Monday 18th August 2014
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FredClogs said:
What no ones trying to defend her? Come on kippers.

What bugs me is the mealy mouthed apology, at least that barking mad "bongo bongo land" guy was man enough to stand by his own ridiculousness. I thought UKIP was about straight talking and common sense, not bowing to PC gone mad, speaking the truth to power through the vernacular of the common man?

Or is the truth of the situation that the common man is a lot more sophisticated, nuanced and sensitive that your average UKIP member?
You mean like Jack Dromey referring to someone as 'a '? (rhymes with Mikey). Not to mention Dianne Abbott. And didnt Boris write an article for the Torygraph mentioning piccaninnies? All parties have them. including the holier-then-thou Libdems.

Fred, you have a problem. Seek help.

rs1952

5,247 posts

259 months

Monday 18th August 2014
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dandarez said:
Perhaps it was daft, but just to prove the gutter press will jump on anything remotely Ukip blunderwise, Bill Etheridge (the UKIP MEP in question) had also lauded Martin Luther King and Tony Blair's engagement abilities, but the anti-kipper Wail headline read:

'Ukip MEP sparks anger as he tells its youth wing to copy Nazi leader.'
You should know better than most that that's what the press do. They've been doing it with the EU for years and you seem to support them then wink

But an old Tony Capstick joke springs to mind:

Arthur Scargill and the Pope were out fishing in a boat, and the Pope fell in. Crying out "Arthur, Arthur, save me!" Arthur Scargill got out of the boat, walked across the water, picked the Pope up and put him back in the boat. Next morning's headline in The Sun:

"Arthur Scargill Can't Swim"

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FredClogs

14,041 posts

161 months

Monday 18th August 2014
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s2art said:
FredClogs said:
What no ones trying to defend her? Come on kippers.

What bugs me is the mealy mouthed apology, at least that barking mad "bongo bongo land" guy was man enough to stand by his own ridiculousness. I thought UKIP was about straight talking and common sense, not bowing to PC gone mad, speaking the truth to power through the vernacular of the common man?

Or is the truth of the situation that the common man is a lot more sophisticated, nuanced and sensitive that your average UKIP member?
You mean like Jack Dromey referring to someone as 'a '? (rhymes with Mikey). Not to mention Dianne Abbott. And didnt Boris write an article for the Torygraph mentioning piccaninnies? All parties have them. including the holier-then-thou Libdems.

Fred, you have a problem. Seek help.
Blimey... Here's me thinking UKIP were a party of libertarians and personal responsibility, but weirdly is always someone else's fault, or someone else who doesn't get it...

Yes I have 99 problems, but Kips aren't one

unrepentant

21,249 posts

256 months

Monday 18th August 2014
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FredClogs said:
What bugs me is the mealy mouthed apology, at least that barking mad "bongo bongo land" guy was man enough to stand by his own ridiculousness.
Alan Clark?

Bit unfair to call him barking mad. hehe


s2art

18,937 posts

253 months

Monday 18th August 2014
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FredClogs said:
s2art said:
FredClogs said:
What no ones trying to defend her? Come on kippers.

What bugs me is the mealy mouthed apology, at least that barking mad "bongo bongo land" guy was man enough to stand by his own ridiculousness. I thought UKIP was about straight talking and common sense, not bowing to PC gone mad, speaking the truth to power through the vernacular of the common man?

Or is the truth of the situation that the common man is a lot more sophisticated, nuanced and sensitive that your average UKIP member?
You mean like Jack Dromey referring to someone as 'a '? (rhymes with Mikey). Not to mention Dianne Abbott. And didnt Boris write an article for the Torygraph mentioning piccaninnies? All parties have them. including the holier-then-thou Libdems.

Fred, you have a problem. Seek help.
Blimey... Here's me thinking UKIP were a party of libertarians and personal responsibility, but weirdly is always someone else's fault, or someone else who doesn't get it...

Yes I have 99 problems, but Kips aren't one
I am pretty sure you can be libertarian but still a bit racist (even if its unconscious, casual racism). So what has that got to do with it? Are you saying that being a socialist allows you to be racist but a libertarian cannot be?

Some Gump

12,687 posts

186 months

Monday 18th August 2014
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lol@ that couple. Mail order bride much?

league67

1,878 posts

203 months

Monday 18th August 2014
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dandarez said:
Really?
Prospective candidates... they needn't worry, the nutters are already MPs.
Or were!
Take Aidan Burley for one.

Bit different remarking on the oratory skills of Hitler as opposed to dressing up as one of his henchmen and making sieg heil salutes, eh? And in France of all places!
Still, at least he's gone. But just to prove you can argue the same for all parties and their members/candidates as said.
It would be different if it did happen. But, as usual, you are making things up to justify anything that kippers do. Burley was at the party where SOMEONE ELSE was dressed as Nazi.

paper said:
The groom-to-be, Mark Fournier, was seen making a Sieg Heil salute while dressed in SS uniform and the evening was punctuated by chants of ‘Hitler, Hitler’.
Mr Burley apologised for the ‘inappropriate behaviour by some guests’, but he was still stripped of his job as a parliamentary aide to Transport Secretary Justine Greening. An investigation is being conducted by the French authorities.
So, Burley lost his job for being present at the party where someone else was being a daz. Seems pretty drastic action. KipperMEP probably got slap on the back for getting UKIP in the news.

So no, you can't argue the same. Unless you are a kipper and you don't mind lying to justify your idiotic post.

You might want to rethink that post, as if above mentioned Mr Burley reads PH or someone alerts him to this, he might take this rather seriously.


league67

1,878 posts

203 months

Monday 18th August 2014
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s2art said:
FredClogs said:
What no ones trying to defend her? Come on kippers.

What bugs me is the mealy mouthed apology, at least that barking mad "bongo bongo land" guy was man enough to stand by his own ridiculousness. I thought UKIP was about straight talking and common sense, not bowing to PC gone mad, speaking the truth to power through the vernacular of the common man?

Or is the truth of the situation that the common man is a lot more sophisticated, nuanced and sensitive that your average UKIP member?
You mean like Jack Dromey referring to someone as 'a '? (rhymes with Mikey). Not to mention Dianne Abbott. And didnt Boris write an article for the Torygraph mentioning piccaninnies? All parties have them. including the holier-then-thou Libdems.

Fred, you have a problem. Seek help.
LOL. UKIP handbook rule 3. 'If caught making idiotic and racist statement about, wait for it, your own supporters, try to deflect this by pointing that others are doing 'similar' things'.

Whataboutism lesson 74.

Funny thing is that, both husband and wife are probably so stupid, that they'll still vote UKIP. As per 'snatch'; 'never underestimate predictability of stupidity.'


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s2art

18,937 posts

253 months

Monday 18th August 2014
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league67 said:
s2art said:
FredClogs said:
What no ones trying to defend her? Come on kippers.

What bugs me is the mealy mouthed apology, at least that barking mad "bongo bongo land" guy was man enough to stand by his own ridiculousness. I thought UKIP was about straight talking and common sense, not bowing to PC gone mad, speaking the truth to power through the vernacular of the common man?

Or is the truth of the situation that the common man is a lot more sophisticated, nuanced and sensitive that your average UKIP member?
You mean like Jack Dromey referring to someone as 'a '? (rhymes with Mikey). Not to mention Dianne Abbott. And didnt Boris write an article for the Torygraph mentioning piccaninnies? All parties have them. including the holier-then-thou Libdems.

Fred, you have a problem. Seek help.
LOL. UKIP handbook rule 3. 'If caught making idiotic and racist statement about, wait for it, your own supporters, try to deflect this by pointing that others are doing 'similar' things'.

Whataboutism lesson 74.

Funny thing is that, both husband and wife are probably so stupid, that they'll still vote UKIP. As per 'snatch'; 'never underestimate predictability of stupidity.'


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Just like that bigoted women continued to vote Labour. Stupid people in all parties. The point I was making is its no different Liblabcon.

Jasandjules

69,866 posts

229 months

Monday 18th August 2014
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unrepentant said:
Except the major political parties have a pretty intensive screening process and plenty of training for prospective candidates. With UKIP as long as you're a barking mad xenophobe you're in.
Which then makes it even more astonishing what they let through isn't it!?!?

Randy Winkman

16,089 posts

189 months

Monday 18th August 2014
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s2art said:
I am pretty sure you can be libertarian but still a bit racist (even if its unconscious, casual racism). So what has that got to do with it? Are you saying that being a socialist allows you to be racist but a libertarian cannot be?
They're only libertarian for British people aren't they?

pcvdriver

1,819 posts

199 months

Monday 18th August 2014
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acd80 said:
Jasandjules said:
Oh dear. Sadly IQ tests are not required to stand for election.
I'm not a UKIP supporter however you could argue the same for every political party and their members / candidates.
However, it has to be said that UKIP seem to have more than the average fair share of unintended utterances, don't they? Way more than average - which tends to speak volumes about them.....

Chlamydia

1,082 posts

127 months

Monday 18th August 2014
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unrepentant said:
Except the major political parties have a pretty intensive screening process and plenty of training for prospective candidates. With UKIP as long as you're a barking mad xenophobe you're in.
Really? So there are no kiddy-fiddlers, racists, sexists, adulterers etc etc in any of the other parties? rofl

Chlamydia

1,082 posts

127 months

Monday 18th August 2014
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pcvdriver said:
acd80 said:
Jasandjules said:
Oh dear. Sadly IQ tests are not required to stand for election.
I'm not a UKIP supporter however you could argue the same for every political party and their members / candidates.
However, it has to be said that UKIP seem to have more than the average fair share of unintended utterances, don't they? Way more than average - which tends to speak volumes about them.....
SNP politicians keep getting caught out lying, does that mean every Scottish Nationalist is dishonest?

pcvdriver

1,819 posts

199 months

Monday 18th August 2014
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Randy Winkman said:
s2art said:
I am pretty sure you can be libertarian but still a bit racist (even if its unconscious, casual racism). So what has that got to do with it? Are you saying that being a socialist allows you to be racist but a libertarian cannot be?
They're only libertarian for British people aren't they?
The only difference I can see, is when others make these awfully chosen "witticisms" they know it's time to get their coat. UKIP members don't seem to have the same sense of what's appropriate and what's clearly not.

pcvdriver

1,819 posts

199 months

Monday 18th August 2014
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Chlamydia said:
unrepentant said:
Except the major political parties have a pretty intensive screening process and plenty of training for prospective candidates. With UKIP as long as you're a barking mad xenophobe you're in.
Really? So there are no kiddy-fiddlers, racists, sexists, adulterers etc etc in any of the other parties? rofl
Yup, Westminster really is a fetid place.....can't wait to vote Yes next month.....

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

262 months

Monday 18th August 2014
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Chlamydia

1,082 posts

127 months

Monday 18th August 2014
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pcvdriver said:
Chlamydia said:
unrepentant said:
Except the major political parties have a pretty intensive screening process and plenty of training for prospective candidates. With UKIP as long as you're a barking mad xenophobe you're in.
Really? So there are no kiddy-fiddlers, racists, sexists, adulterers etc etc in any of the other parties? rofl
Yup, Westminster really is a fetid place.....can't wait to vote Yes next month.....
I was including Holyrood, maybe I should have included 'liars' in that post instead of the following one.

ClassicMotorNut

2,438 posts

138 months

Monday 18th August 2014
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pork911 said:
longblackcoat said:
Correct. It was a daft thing to do (because they should have known they'd get jumped on) but there was no praise of Hitler's views.
Daft? & just because invites criticism?

Ah well, at least there was no praise for hitlers views.

Could've been worse.

wink
Hitler was a good speaker. Fact. That has nothing to do with whether or not he was a good role model, and hence if you are planning on going on politics you would do well to learn from Hitler's oratory but not his ideology.

That's what our U.K.I.P. man said, and it's not particularly difficult to see that he's not praising Hitler's beliefs.