US journalist beheaded by ISIS...

[Mermaid]

TheRealFingers99 said:

Mermaid said:

So how long before IS attack the US mainland?

Probably ten days after they steal Israel's new nuclear capable submarine.........

You would have thought they would have agents well positioned a while ago, and responded to US led airstrikes that were inevitable. Maybe they are not so smart after all.

[TheRealFingers99]

They've certainly got some smart guys and some well trained troops, but I'd imagine they're pretty thinly spread.

Must have been pretty surprised when Hezbollah hit them with drones (generally reported only in the Israeli press).

The Lebanese Air Force managed to stay out of the bombing campaign by virtue of only having a couple of obsolete fixed wing aircraft.

[photosnob]

TheRealFingers99 said:

They've certainly got some smart guys and some well trained troops, but I'd imagine they're pretty thinly spread.

Must have been pretty surprised when Hezbollah hit them with drones (generally reported only in the Israeli press).

The Lebanese Air Force managed to stay out of the bombing campaign by virtue of only having a couple of obsolete fixed wing aircraft.

You are giving them too much credit. They have done an average job of fighting a Syrian Army which has it's hands tied behind it't back. It was us and the other "enlightened" nations thats stopped Assad wiping them out in Syria. I'm not talking about stopping them using chem weapons, I'm talking about us affectively grounding their airforce.

[TheRealFingers99]

photosnob said:

You are giving them too much credit. They have done an average job of fighting a Syrian Army which has it's hands tied behind it't back. It was us and the other "enlightened" nations thats stopped Assad wiping them out in Syria. I'm not talking about stopping them using chem weapons, I'm talking about us affectively grounding their airforce.

Mind you, you've got to define "them". There are good guys and bad guys fighting against Assad (and now fighting ISIS too). Sooner or later he'll go.

[Langweilig]

Amoral murdering scumbags!

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/...

I get the feeling that it's now unavoidable - the RAF will be dropping bombs on the by the end of next week.

Oh hang on, Mr. Salmond still has a vote in the House of Commons.

[photosnob]

You think we are going to be dropping bombs in Algeria?

[Langweilig]

photosnob said:

You think we are going to be dropping bombs in Algeria?

No, not that far.

[Negative Creep]

Langweilig said:

photosnob said:

You think we are going to be dropping bombs in Algeria?

No, not that far.

To be fair, since the US is involved there's a fair chance they'll hit them by accident whilst aiming for Iraq

[Mr_B]

hornetrider said:

DAVEVO9 said:

Bit of good news

British Jihadi Killed In US Airstrike - Reports On Sky

That is good news. Which one? The bell end doing the beheading?

Some bloke from the gay capital of the UK ( Brighton ),of all places. Perhaps the campness of the place got to him.
His Mum was on the news blaming the people who brain washed him... while standing outside her shop with the frontage saying ' strive in the way of Allah( God ) ' and going on to pray to Allah that this and that now happens.
Sorry love, but just maybe if you haven't been part of the brainwashing while his head was still soft, you'd still have him around.

[TheRealFingers99]

Mr_B said:

Some bloke from the gay capital of the UK ( Brighton ),of all places. Perhaps the campness of the place got to him.
His Mum was on the news blaming the people who brain washed him... while standing outside her shop with the frontage saying ' strive in the way of Allah( God ) ' and going on to pray to Allah that this and that now happens.
Sorry love, but just maybe if you haven't been part of the brainwashing while his head was still soft, you'd still have him around.

Spot the logical flaws?

a. Most of the population of Brighton are not gay
b. Most Muslims don't support ISIS

[Mr_B]

TheRealFingers99 said:

Spot the logical flaws?

a. Most of the population of Brighton are not gay
b. Most Muslims don't support ISIS

Where did I say either ?

Edited by Mr_B on Thursday 25th September 01:44

[photosnob]

TheRealFingers99 said:

Mr_B said:

Some bloke from the gay capital of the UK ( Brighton ),of all places. Perhaps the campness of the place got to him.
His Mum was on the news blaming the people who brain washed him... while standing outside her shop with the frontage saying ' strive in the way of Allah( God ) ' and going on to pray to Allah that this and that now happens.
Sorry love, but just maybe if you haven't been part of the brainwashing while his head was still soft, you'd still have him around.

Spot the logical flaws?

a. Most of the population of Brighton are not gay
b. Most Muslims don't support ISIS

You are missing the point.

His mother works/runs a shop that has signs in the window which promote a certain faith. Most Muslim business owners do not brand there business in such a way, so it's fair to say that his Mother and family might have been pretty serious about their faith. He's been raised in that environment whilst living in a place that markets itself as the cultural home of homosexuality. Now I'm no Islamic scholar, but I don't think they are keen on gays. It's not unreasonable to assume he might have felt disconnected from his society. And that could possibly have felt him to feel the need to join his own type of people.

I don't care about the rational or excuses though. He is dead, and I'm glad. I can feel sorrow for his family if they didn't raise him to be like that. But his death is a good thing for this country. He would always had been dangerous after being trained in that environment, and we have saved a lot of money and possibly lives by him shuffling off this mortal coil.

[GT03ROB]

Jimbeaux said:

I understand, just checking. I would have vetted first but I am trying to live in the consta-texting, Facial Book, instant gratification and reading-only-headlines world, therefore too busy to be reading and such.

never know with Yanks, especially them from down south.....

[TheRealFingers99]

photosnob said:

You are missing the point.

Well, I was. I'm not sure that it's a particularly apposite one, though.

photosnob said:

His mother works/runs a shop that has signs in the window which promote a certain faith. Most Muslim business owners do not brand there business in such a way, so it's fair to say that his Mother and family might have been pretty serious about their faith. He's been raised in that environment whilst living in a place that markets itself as the cultural home of homosexuality. Now I'm no Islamic scholar, but I don't think they are keen on gays. It's not unreasonable to assume he might have felt disconnected from his society. And that could possibly have felt him to feel the need to join his own type of people.

I think every Muslim Arab shop in Liverpool (and I've worked in a few) and a lot of the Pakistani ones have some reference to Allah somewhere. My formerly Muslim MR2 Turbo even had it's own Koran (which I dropped off at the local Mosque). The only shop that comes to mind that didn't was a take away run by crazy Kurds (I mean, these guys were crazy, not all -- or many -- Kurds are.)

It doesn't seem that unusual for second generation immigrants to get some form of what we might call culture clash induced psychosis.

And let's remember that many Christians have similarly fubar beliefs about homosexuality.

The shock can work in delightful ways, too. It seems that Jihadis who went to Jugoslavia were deeply shocked by both Muslim girls wearing miniskirts and no head covering and by being told by the Bosnian police that if they planted explosives in churches they'd be shot dead by their Muslim brothers.

photosnob said:

But his death is a good thing for this country. He would always had been dangerous after being trained in that environment, and we have saved a lot of money and possibly lives by him shuffling off this mortal coil.

Possibly. But some of the best anti-Jihadis are former Jihadis.

[Lost soul]

TheRealFingers99 said:

photosnob said:

You are giving them too much credit. They have done an average job of fighting a Syrian Army which has it's hands tied behind it't back. It was us and the other "enlightened" nations thats stopped Assad wiping them out in Syria. I'm not talking about stopping them using chem weapons, I'm talking about us affectively grounding their airforce.

Mind you, you've got to define "them". There are good guys and bad guys fighting against Assad (and now fighting ISIS too). Sooner or later he'll go.

Very few of them are good guys , as soon as they gain control we see the extent of their religious madness

[KareemK]

Jimbeaux said:

GT03ROB said:

Jimbeaux said:

GT03ROB said:

Jimbeaux said:

KareemK said:

anonymous said:

[redacted]

Frankly, half the time we support regimes that actually carry that out.

The first Arab countries who rushed to take part in Tuesdays bombing is made up mainly of the Theifdoms Kingdoms whose Royal rulers are only interested in their own survival:

Saudi Arabia
Jordan
United Arab Emirates
Qatar
Bahrain

Whilst other non-Royal Arab countries might sympathise with the West here (ie: Turkey, Egypt, Iran etc) they are keeping their powder dry at the moment.

That's the Arab Iran or the Persian one? Just kidding, but not really.

No that's like the Arab Turkey! But hey don't ever let ignorance get in the way of an opinion!

Are you speaking to me? If so, check the bold type.

No not at you. Read what I put & you will see I'm making the point you make about Iran, but about Turkey, in fact many Egyptians would make a similar point about themselves as well

I understand, just checking. I would have vetted first but I am trying to live in the consta-texting, Facial Book, instant gratification and reading-only-headlines world, therefore too busy to be reading and such.

Meh, substitute 'Arab' for 'Middle Eastern'. Although its kinda not the point of the post. Awaits "but isn't Turkey also in Europe, Asia Minor, Asiatic Turkey or the Anatolian Plateau." type comments.

Edited by KareemK on Thursday 25th September 10:20

[GT03ROB]

KareemK said:

Meh, substitute 'Arab' for 'Middle Eastern'. Although its kinda not the point of the post.

Accepted, however putting everybody in this part of the world into the same bucket, because they mostly follow the same religeon, is often what gets the West into a mess. The differences between the different countries & peoples here based on history/geography is simply huge.

[TheJimi]

TheRealFingers99 said:

My formerly Muslim MR2 Turbo even had it's own Koran (which I dropped off at the local Mosque).

That amused me.

[Mr_B]

photosnob said:

TheRealFingers99 said:

Mr_B said:

Some bloke from the gay capital of the UK ( Brighton ),of all places. Perhaps the campness of the place got to him.
His Mum was on the news blaming the people who brain washed him... while standing outside her shop with the frontage saying ' strive in the way of Allah( God ) ' and going on to pray to Allah that this and that now happens.
Sorry love, but just maybe if you haven't been part of the brainwashing while his head was still soft, you'd still have him around.

Spot the logical flaws?

a. Most of the population of Brighton are not gay
b. Most Muslims don't support ISIS

You are missing the point.

His mother works/runs a shop that has signs in the window which promote a certain faith. Most Muslim business owners do not brand there business in such a way, so it's fair to say that his Mother and family might have been pretty serious about their faith. He's been raised in that environment whilst living in a place that markets itself as the cultural home of homosexuality. Now I'm no Islamic scholar, but I don't think they are keen on gays. It's not unreasonable to assume he might have felt disconnected from his society. And that could possibly have felt him to feel the need to join his own type of people.

I don't care about the rational or excuses though. He is dead, and I'm glad. I can feel sorrow for his family if they didn't raise him to be like that. But his death is a good thing for this country. He would always had been dangerous after being trained in that environment, and we have saved a lot of money and possibly lives by him shuffling off this mortal coil.

It's pretty simple really, had she not be brainwashing him with religion from day one, he may still be there. She is part of what she is complaining about. Talk about brainwashing when you have a son/daughter who has no interest in religion and then finds it and goes on to want to fight. Don't bother when you've been doing exactly the same thing from day one.

[Digga]

TheJimi said:

TheRealFingers99 said:

My formerly Muslim MR2 Turbo even had it's own Koran (which I dropped off at the local Mosque).

That amused me.

Me too.

My second car was a visciously unreliable Mk1 XR2. I am beginning to wonder if it's abject lack of maintenance was anything to do with it being Christian Scientist.