US journalist beheaded by ISIS...
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kapiteinlangzaam said:
Dutch media here is reporting that the French tourist kidnapped in Algeria has been beheaded as well....
Little sympathy.Wrong place - djudjura is historic GSPC/AQIM stronghold. Kidnaps (criminal) are common in Kabylie, false road blocks are an MO older than the hills, no security - close or loose. Security advise from UK, US, French, Spanish govts all say do not travel - 'red' area.
Wrong time - 14-sep a splinter AQIM group pledged to IS (the fashionable franchise), therefore they were primed to act to pay their entry ticket, IS statement 3 days before urging all expats to be killed, French involvement with Syria intervention.
Basically he was playing cricket in Aleppo.
TheRealFingers99 said:
Lost soul said:
Very few of them are good guys , as soon as they gain control we see the extent of their religious madness
The Kurds, and substantial elements of the Syrian rebels, at least, are pretty well secular. The idea that all Muslims are religious nutters has no verity. Digga said:
TheJimi said:
TheRealFingers99 said:
My formerly Muslim MR2 Turbo even had it's own Koran (which I dropped off at the local Mosque).
That amused me.
My second car was a visciously unreliable Mk1 XR2. I am beginning to wonder if it's abject lack of maintenance was anything to do with it being Christian Scientist.
GT03ROB said:
KareemK said:
Meh, substitute 'Arab' for 'Middle Eastern'. Although its kinda not the point of the post.
Accepted, however putting everybody in this part of the world into the same bucket, because they mostly follow the same religeon, is often what gets the West into a mess. The differences between the different countries & peoples here based on history/geography is simply huge. Mermaid said:
Jimbeaux said:
I understand, just checking. I would have vetted first but I am trying to live in the consta-texting, Facial Book, instant gratification and reading-only-headlines world, therefore too busy to be reading and such.
But PH's trumps all, so only carefully considered messages please. So how long before IS attack the US mainland?
GT03ROB said:
Jimbeaux said:
I understand, just checking. I would have vetted first but I am trying to live in the consta-texting, Facial Book, instant gratification and reading-only-headlines world, therefore too busy to be reading and such.
never know with Yanks, especially them from down south.....TheRealFingers99 said:
photosnob said:
You are missing the point.
Well, I was. I'm not sure that it's a particularly apposite one, though.
photosnob said:
His mother works/runs a shop that has signs in the window which promote a certain faith. Most Muslim business owners do not brand there business in such a way, so it's fair to say that his Mother and family might have been pretty serious about their faith. He's been raised in that environment whilst living in a place that markets itself as the cultural home of homosexuality. Now I'm no Islamic scholar, but I don't think they are keen on gays. It's not unreasonable to assume he might have felt disconnected from his society. And that could possibly have felt him to feel the need to join his own type of people.
I think every Muslim Arab shop in Liverpool (and I've worked in a few) and a lot of the Pakistani ones have some reference to Allah somewhere. My formerly Muslim MR2 Turbo even had it's own Koran (which I dropped off at the local Mosque). The only shop that comes to mind that didn't was a take away run by crazy Kurds (I mean, these guys were crazy, not all -- or many -- Kurds are.) It doesn't seem that unusual for second generation immigrants to get some form of what we might call culture clash induced psychosis.
And let's remember that many Christians have similarly fubar beliefs about homosexuality.
The shock can work in delightful ways, too. It seems that Jihadis who went to Jugoslavia were deeply shocked by both Muslim girls wearing miniskirts and no head covering and by being told by the Bosnian police that if they planted explosives in churches they'd be shot dead by their Muslim brothers.
photosnob said:
But his death is a good thing for this country. He would always had been dangerous after being trained in that environment, and we have saved a lot of money and possibly lives by him shuffling off this mortal coil.
Possibly. But some of the best anti-Jihadis are former Jihadis. KareemK said:
Jimbeaux said:
GT03ROB said:
Jimbeaux said:
GT03ROB said:
Jimbeaux said:
KareemK said:
anonymous said:
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Frankly, half the time we support regimes that actually carry that out.The first Arab countries who rushed to take part in Tuesdays bombing is made up mainly of the
Saudi Arabia
Jordan
United Arab Emirates
Qatar
Bahrain
Whilst other non-Royal Arab countries might sympathise with the West here (ie: Turkey, Egypt, Iran etc) they are keeping their powder dry at the moment.
No not at you. Read what I put & you will see I'm making the point you make about Iran, but about Turkey, in fact many Egyptians would make a similar point about themselves as well
Edited by KareemK on Thursday 25th September 10:20
Jimbeaux said:
Sadly, I fear it is coming.....probably just after the UK gets theirs. I actually worry more about the "lone wolf" spontaneous attacks by sympathisers. There is usually little intel or warning before they strike.
I agree with this view. I think we'll be seeing a fair few more 'up close and personal' attacks over here in the manner of Woolwich.hornetrider said:
Jimbeaux said:
Sadly, I fear it is coming.....probably just after the UK gets theirs. I actually worry more about the "lone wolf" spontaneous attacks by sympathisers. There is usually little intel or warning before they strike.
I agree with this view. I think we'll be seeing a fair few more 'up close and personal' attacks over here in the manner of Woolwich.Jimbeaux said:
Mermaid said:
Jimbeaux said:
I understand, just checking. I would have vetted first but I am trying to live in the consta-texting, Facial Book, instant gratification and reading-only-headlines world, therefore too busy to be reading and such.
But PH's trumps all, so only carefully considered messages please. So how long before IS attack the US mainland?
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Mermaid said:
Jimbeaux said:
Mermaid said:
Jimbeaux said:
I understand, just checking. I would have vetted first but I am trying to live in the consta-texting, Facial Book, instant gratification and reading-only-headlines world, therefore too busy to be reading and such.
But PH's trumps all, so only carefully considered messages please. So how long before IS attack the US mainland?
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