US journalist beheaded by ISIS...
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Jimbeaux said:
hornetrider said:
Jimbeaux said:
Sadly, I fear it is coming.....probably just after the UK gets theirs. I actually worry more about the "lone wolf" spontaneous attacks by sympathisers. There is usually little intel or warning before they strike.
I agree with this view. I think we'll be seeing a fair few more 'up close and personal' attacks over here in the manner of Woolwich.Then we'll face one or more homeland horrors that will shock us and bring misery to the poor unfortunates involved. It's not like there aren't enough college and school shootings without one (or god forbid a crew of) maniac(s) wading in with automatic weapons, explosives or whatever. I just don't think we can fully head it off now.
BillPeart said:
Jimbeaux said:
hornetrider said:
Jimbeaux said:
Sadly, I fear it is coming.....probably just after the UK gets theirs. I actually worry more about the "lone wolf" spontaneous attacks by sympathisers. There is usually little intel or warning before they strike.
I agree with this view. I think we'll be seeing a fair few more 'up close and personal' attacks over here in the manner of Woolwich.Then we'll face one or more homeland horrors that will shock us and bring misery to the poor unfortunates involved. It's not like there aren't enough college and school shootings without one (or god forbid a crew of) maniac(s) wading in with automatic weapons, explosives or whatever. I just don't think we can fully head it off now.
How the Danes handle the issue:
"Of the Danish Muslims who go to Syria, some want to do aid work, while some want to wage jihad. But very little is known about those who go to Syria and then return to Denmark. That's what the leader of the section for prevention of radicalisation and extremism at Eastern Jutland’s police, Allan Aarslev, told me.
Nevertheless the risk of so-called home going terrorism is treated very seriously. But instead of confiscating passports and threatening them with prison – measures recently brought to Denmark that are similar to suggested laws in the UK – Allan and his team are trying a different approach. They offer therapy and guidance, while reaching out to the parents in the community. They do this both preemptively and after the young men have returned to their communities. The idea being to reintegrate the young men into Danish society."
http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/rhus-is-rehabilitat...
The Daily Mail would not approve.
"Of the Danish Muslims who go to Syria, some want to do aid work, while some want to wage jihad. But very little is known about those who go to Syria and then return to Denmark. That's what the leader of the section for prevention of radicalisation and extremism at Eastern Jutland’s police, Allan Aarslev, told me.
Nevertheless the risk of so-called home going terrorism is treated very seriously. But instead of confiscating passports and threatening them with prison – measures recently brought to Denmark that are similar to suggested laws in the UK – Allan and his team are trying a different approach. They offer therapy and guidance, while reaching out to the parents in the community. They do this both preemptively and after the young men have returned to their communities. The idea being to reintegrate the young men into Danish society."
http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/rhus-is-rehabilitat...
The Daily Mail would not approve.
Fittster said:
How the Danes handle the issue:
"Of the Danish Muslims who go to Syria, some want to do aid work, while some want to wage jihad. But very little is known about those who go to Syria and then return to Denmark. That's what the leader of the section for prevention of radicalisation and extremism at Eastern Jutland’s police, Allan Aarslev, told me.
Nevertheless the risk of so-called home going terrorism is treated very seriously. But instead of confiscating passports and threatening them with prison – measures recently brought to Denmark that are similar to suggested laws in the UK – Allan and his team are trying a different approach. They offer therapy and guidance, while reaching out to the parents in the community. They do this both preemptively and after the young men have returned to their communities. The idea being to reintegrate the young men into Danish society."
http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/rhus-is-rehabilitat...
The Daily Mail would not approve.
I wonder if the Danes also give out free cuddly toys to these f"Of the Danish Muslims who go to Syria, some want to do aid work, while some want to wage jihad. But very little is known about those who go to Syria and then return to Denmark. That's what the leader of the section for prevention of radicalisation and extremism at Eastern Jutland’s police, Allan Aarslev, told me.
Nevertheless the risk of so-called home going terrorism is treated very seriously. But instead of confiscating passports and threatening them with prison – measures recently brought to Denmark that are similar to suggested laws in the UK – Allan and his team are trying a different approach. They offer therapy and guidance, while reaching out to the parents in the community. They do this both preemptively and after the young men have returned to their communities. The idea being to reintegrate the young men into Danish society."
http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/rhus-is-rehabilitat...
The Daily Mail would not approve.
kers when they return.The only solution to this is an iron fist. Eradicate these freaks in the desert before they can return to cause mayhem in their home countries.
Mr_B said:
Some British fighter who knew the now dead Brighton wannabe Jihadi also says that 3 other Britons were killed in recent American strikes. Seems an odd thing to do, but thank you America for killing British citizens.
So apart from the ramblings of some random stinkbeard, do we have any evidence that that ^^ has even the tiniest grain of truth attached to it?Do you always take the word of a terrorist as gospel?
Muntu said:
Bit silly posting that.
Anyone with an ounce of logic would understand that there was no way the US or anybody could have seen the rise of these twisted retards. If you're in any doubt as to what scum we are up against here, just watch one of the videos.
What are we supposed to do - just let them carry on beheading our journalists, aid workers and Iraqi civilians (including children).
Lee Rigby would be first to put himself forward if he were still with us. God rest him.
Cobnapint said:
Anyone with an ounce of logic would understand that there was no way the US or anybody could have seen the rise of these twisted retards.
Who the hell do you think we were fighting during Iraq II?Remember Al Zarqawi? Yeah, the guy who lead Al Qaeda In Iraq - same guy who had a penchant for beheading captives on video.
A rose by an other name. Those people were ISIS: The early years.
They bode their time, waited until the coalition troops had left and started to re-group. That the Al Maliki government marginalised the Sunni's, played right into the hands of ISIS.
Syria gave them another ripe breeding ground.
Unforseen? I'd bet any western intelligence agency worth their salt saw this coming.
Edited by TheJimi on Friday 26th September 09:54
Fittster said:
How the Danes handle the issue:
"Of the Danish Muslims who go to Syria, some want to do aid work, while some want to wage jihad. But very little is known about those who go to Syria and then return to Denmark. That's what the leader of the section for prevention of radicalisation and extremism at Eastern Jutland’s police, Allan Aarslev, told me.
Nevertheless the risk of so-called home going terrorism is treated very seriously. But instead of confiscating passports and threatening them with prison – measures recently brought to Denmark that are similar to suggested laws in the UK – Allan and his team are trying a different approach. They offer therapy and guidance, while reaching out to the parents in the community. They do this both preemptively and after the young men have returned to their communities. The idea being to reintegrate the young men into Danish society."
http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/rhus-is-rehabilitat...
The Daily Mail would not approve.
Think I read somewhere that the Brits do this as well - works with about 40% of them (the misguided idealists) - which is probably a better success rate than for prison re-offenders as a whole."Of the Danish Muslims who go to Syria, some want to do aid work, while some want to wage jihad. But very little is known about those who go to Syria and then return to Denmark. That's what the leader of the section for prevention of radicalisation and extremism at Eastern Jutland’s police, Allan Aarslev, told me.
Nevertheless the risk of so-called home going terrorism is treated very seriously. But instead of confiscating passports and threatening them with prison – measures recently brought to Denmark that are similar to suggested laws in the UK – Allan and his team are trying a different approach. They offer therapy and guidance, while reaching out to the parents in the community. They do this both preemptively and after the young men have returned to their communities. The idea being to reintegrate the young men into Danish society."
http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/rhus-is-rehabilitat...
The Daily Mail would not approve.
KareemK said:
Fittster said:
Cobnapint said:
there was no way the US or anybody could have seen the rise of these twisted retards.
Rubbish. Messing with internal set-ups of other countries has a long history of creating negative results.
Muntu said:
Mr_B said:
Some British fighter who knew the now dead Brighton wannabe Jihadi also says that 3 other Britons were killed in recent American strikes. Seems an odd thing to do, but thank you America for killing British citizens.
So apart from the ramblings of some random stinkbeard, do we have any evidence that that ^^ has even the tiniest grain of truth attached to it?Do you always take the word of a terrorist as gospel?
Cobnapint said:
Muntu said:
God rest him.Digga said:
KareemK said:
Fittster said:
Cobnapint said:
there was no way the US or anybody could have seen the rise of these twisted retards.
Rubbish. Messing with internal set-ups of other countries has a long history of creating negative results.
KareemK said:
Fittster said:
Cobnapint said:
there was no way the US or anybody could have seen the rise of these twisted retards.
Rubbish. Messing with internal set-ups of other countries has a long history of creating negative results.We're going back into Iraq and UK strikes within Syria's borders are inevitable within weeks.
The only question worth considering is whether or not we have the stones to do what most would agree needs to be done in order to get rid of the threat.
We all know deep down that the answer is; no, of course not. We can never and will never win against an enemy like this.
We can't just leave it alone either or else we'd have every radicalised, disgruntled and marginalised young British muslim male self-detonating in the middle of Asda on Saturday afternoon up and down the land.
Blame should, can and will be apportioned after whatever happens, happens. Raking up the reasons that got us to this horrific situation is utterly futile at this point.
We're going back in, better get used to it.
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