US journalist beheaded by ISIS...

[rollondeath]

DrDoofenshmirtz said:

I work with a bloke from Afghanistan - he's a Muslim, nicest bloke you could wish to meet.
ISIL aren't 'Muslims', they are pure evil scum.

They are Muslim's and believe in the same ideology.

[photosnob]

And now they are threatening a former US Army Ranger... If they do that to him, things will kick off. The US will not put up with a veteran being mutilated.

[MrBarry123]

Condolences to the family of Alan Henning - a man who was purely trying to help the lives of those suffering.

Let's hope the RAF kills each and every one of the bds.

[KareemK]

Sad news indeed.

Another human being sacrificed on the alter of the perverse beliefs of the religious fundamentalists.

My thoughts are with his family.

[TheChampers]

rollondeath said:

There isn't any good in any religion.

But there are good and kind and decent people everywhere, whether followers of a religion or not? There are ten houses in the close I live in; two of the families are muslim; devout, decent kind and caring. Just as there were (mine included) decent kind church-going Irish catholic families in Birmingham at the time of the pub bombings in 1974. My Dad, an Irish police man, born in Dublin was one of the coppers on the scene helping the injured; you simply can't generalise to the extent I see on thread after thread in PH.

[rollondeath]

TheChampers said:

rollondeath said:

There isn't any good in any religion.

But there are good and kind and decent people everywhere, whether followers of a religion or not? There are ten houses in the close I live in; two of the families are muslim; devout, decent kind and caring. Just as there were (mine included) decent kind church-going Irish catholic families in Birmingham at the time of the pub bombings in 1974. My Dad, an Irish police man, born in Dublin was one of the coppers on the scene helping the injured; you simply can't generalise to the extent I see on thread after thread in PH.

Religion is the root of all evil no matter what side it's on.

Edited by rollondeath on Friday 3rd October 22:23

[VinceFox]

TheChampers said:

But there are good and kind and decent people everywhere, whether followers of a religion or not? There are ten houses in the close I live in; two of the families are muslim; devout, decent kind and caring. Just as there were (mine included) decent kind church-going Irish catholic families in Birmingham at the time of the pub bombings in 1974. My Dad, an Irish police man, born in Dublin was one of the coppers on the scene helping the injured; you simply can't generalise to the extent I see on thread after thread in PH.

As a species we need to grow out of making stuff up as an avoidance of practicing critical thinking.

And for fks sake will someone remove cameron? He's beginning to look like the Chamberlain of our time.

[sjn2004]

Maybe the mods could rename this thread as we have both US and UK victims and two were aid workers.

Where did all these hostages come from and why no warnings? If people were aware of the situation many wouldn't have walked into this trap. Were the government too embarrassed to come out and say those goodie goodie rebels in Syria were actually bad guys?

RIP Alan

[Esseesse]

TheChampers said:

rollondeath said:

There isn't any good in any religion.

But there are good and kind and decent people everywhere, whether followers of a religion or not? There are ten houses in the close I live in; two of the families are muslim; devout, decent kind and caring. Just as there were (mine included) decent kind church-going Irish catholic families in Birmingham at the time of the pub bombings in 1974. My Dad, an Irish police man, born in Dublin was one of the coppers on the scene helping the injured; you simply can't generalise to the extent I see on thread after thread in PH.

I'd put living next door to a Ned Flanders family right up there compared to most of the sort of neighbours you might end up with.

[Cobnapint]

jimreed said:

There may be good in most religions and strong moral principles too, but the sheer scope for misinterpretation and fanaticism that seems to hallmark all of them should make us think that it might be time to set them aside and live together without gods.

Couldn't agree more.

But I'm afraid the penny hasn't dropped across the whole world yet. We are evolving at different speeds, and as has been demonstrated tonight, some are evolving a lot slower than others.

Prime evil, brainwashed, retarded scum.

[Gargamel]

rollondeath said:

There isn't any good in any religion.

Don't be ridiculous, all religions perform good and meaningful things. There is much to dislike in organised religion, and in the interpretation of religious doctrine. But pleased don't become so cynical as to miss the many good things that religion can offer people and the positive things that are accomplished.

[rollondeath]

Gargamel said:

rollondeath said:

There isn't any good in any religion.

Don't be ridiculous, all religions perform good and meaningful things. There is much to dislike in organised religion, and in the interpretation of religious doctrine. But pleased don't become so cynical as to miss the many good things that religion can offer people and the positive things that are accomplished.

My god's better than your god. If you don't believe that I'll kill you. That's what I see in religion it's so 800bc.

[Wacky Racer]

The st is really going to hit the fan if this carries on.

I predict "boots on the ground" before too long.

Airstrikes are just scratching the surface.

RIP Alan

A fine man.

[TheChampers]

VinceFox said:

As a species we need to grow out of making stuff up as an avoidance of practicing critical thinking.

And for fks sake will someone remove cameron? He's beginning to look like the Chamberlain of our time.

Agreed.The point I was perhaps clumsily trying to make was that a person being religious doesn't automatically stick them in a nutter/extremist grouping; the vast majority are not. I have no formal religious belief and agree that religious doctrines are twisted by extremist minorities of all of them for whatever agenda suits them, but it does not logically mean all believers of whatever creed are the cause of evil.

[rollondeath]

TheChampers said:

VinceFox said:

As a species we need to grow out of making stuff up as an avoidance of practicing critical thinking.

And for fks sake will someone remove cameron? He's beginning to look like the Chamberlain of our time.

Agreed.The point I was perhaps clumsily trying to make was that a person being religious doesn't automatically stick them in a nutter/extremist grouping; the vast majority are not. I have no formal religious belief and agree that religious doctrines are twisted by extremist minorities of all of them for whatever agenda suits them, but it does not logically mean all believers of whatever creed are the cause of evil.

In 2014 if you believe there is a man upstairs watching down on you, you are a nutter!

[Zyp]

Gandahar said:

People saying nuke them are starting to sound like US rednecks .....

Brain not heart is always best.

Nice piece by BBC tonight on Alan

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-29199086

I can't imagine him saying nuke them. You shame his memory.

Top bloke. RIP. We won't forget you.

Well of course, a nuclear device would do no good to the innocents of the region, but tell me, what would you do?
How would YOU deal with these people?

If someone was to ask for volunteers to go and talk to them about civility and compassion, would you be the one to put your hand up and volunteer?

Emotions are running high right now, but to say some comments shame his memory....

[RichB]

rollondeath said:

My god's better than your god. If you don't believe that I'll kill you. That's what I see in religion it's so 800bc.

[VinceFox]

Zyp said:

Gandahar said:

People saying nuke them are starting to sound like US rednecks .....

Brain not heart is always best.

Nice piece by BBC tonight on Alan

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-29199086

I can't imagine him saying nuke them. You shame his memory.

Top bloke. RIP. We won't forget you.

Well of course, a nuclear device would do no good to the innocents of the region, but tell me, what would you do?
How would YOU deal with these people?

If someone was to ask for volunteers to go and talk to them about civility and compassion, would you be the one to put your hand up and volunteer?

Emotions are running high right now, but to say some comments shame his memory....

There comes a tipping point. I don't believe we're a million miles from it.

[Rollin]

rollondeath said:

DrDoofenshmirtz said:

I work with a bloke from Afghanistan - he's a Muslim, nicest bloke you could wish to meet.
ISIL aren't 'Muslims', they are pure evil scum.

They are Muslim's and believe in the same ideology.

Idiot.

[Zyp]

Oh, PH - is this advert on this thread really necessary?