US journalist beheaded by ISIS...

US journalist beheaded by ISIS...

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Justayellowbadge

37,057 posts

242 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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Zod said:
Saudi Arabia is a country without the Rule of Law, ruled by a corrupt, cynical, self-serving extended family and a country that retains inhumane, archaic attitudes as you describe.

It does not, however, indulge in conquest, mass murder, mass enslavement and rape and does not threaten other countries. I'd love to have the Saudis dealt with, but IS is rather more of a priority.
How many of the higher priorities exist because they have been fostered and funded by Saudis?


Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

231 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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KareemK said:
Jimbeaux said:
I agree, I say stop all trade with them, we have enough of our own oil. Two problems with that though:

1)They are not just the US's pal, others buy their oil as well, so even if we stop, others will.

2)They are a nation, however abhorent, and can d0 pretty much what they will inside of that nation.
These are not problems to those who wish to oppose oppression, they are excuses to do nothing. We are promoting and encouraging anti Assad action within that country.

Jimbeaux said:
ISIS in not a nation but a movement that can be fought. Therefore, does the fact that we should "un-like" our Saudi buddies mean we cannot fight ISIS?
Not at all - but we should be just as outraged at Saudi no?

Oh, apparently not.
I do not disagree but some do not have their own oil and must see to their country's needs first I suppose.
That part about how people should oppose oppression everywhere, you can kick that off straight away right there in Newham, Tower Hamlets, and Waltham Forest...no need to truck all the way to Saudi.

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

231 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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Justayellowbadge said:
Zod said:
Saudi Arabia is a country without the Rule of Law, ruled by a corrupt, cynical, self-serving extended family and a country that retains inhumane, archaic attitudes as you describe.

It does not, however, indulge in conquest, mass murder, mass enslavement and rape and does not threaten other countries. I'd love to have the Saudis dealt with, but IS is rather more of a priority.
How many of the higher priorities exist because they have been fostered and funded by Saudis?
This is a valid argument. Not sure if the funding is "state" or individuals...although that can be the same thing in SA.

KareemK

1,110 posts

119 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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Jimbeaux: Will you be changing your profile to St George? Just curious. wink

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

231 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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KareemK said:
Jimbeaux: Will you be changing your profile to St George? Just curious. wink
I don't live in that part of town, so no.

Spanglepants

1,743 posts

137 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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He's not wrong though is he?

KareemK said:
Jimbeaux: Will you be changing your profile to St George? Just curious. wink

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

231 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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Spanglepants said:
He's not wrong though is he?

KareemK said:
Jimbeaux: Will you be changing your profile to St George? Just curious. wink
Be a bit more specific in your question please.

KareemK

1,110 posts

119 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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Jimbeaux said:
Spanglepants said:
He's not wrong though is he?

KareemK said:
Jimbeaux: Will you be changing your profile to St George? Just curious. wink
Be a bit more specific in your question please.
To be fair I wasn't insinuating anything against you JB although with hindsight I can see that my question might be construed as such. I watched a news item on Baton Rouge last night and saw how the St George issue had divided Baton Rouge.

I was trying to be a smart arse.

Hoped it would help me fit in on this thread biggrin

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

231 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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KareemK said:
Jimbeaux said:
Spanglepants said:
He's not wrong though is he?

KareemK said:
Jimbeaux: Will you be changing your profile to St George? Just curious. wink
Be a bit more specific in your question please.
To be fair I wasn't insinuating anything against you JB although with hindsight I can see that my question might be construed as such. I watched a news item on Baton Rouge last night and saw how the St George issue had divided Baton Rouge.

I was trying to be a smart arse.

Hoped it would help me fit in on this thread biggrin
Thanks, but my request for specifics was directed at Spanglepants; I will watch for his response.

On the St. George issue. The petition has acquired the needed number of signatures to get onto a ballot. Those in the affected area will have a chance to decide whether or not they wish to become an incorporated city. Central City, Baker, and Zachary have all done this in the past. They all remain part of the Parish (county) of East Baton Rouge, just not within the Baton Rouge city limits. It is a toss up if it will pass.

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

231 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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Ah, I see what this is. I just read the BBC version of the story and, of course, even the headline is racist. rolleyes This is about representation of taxes spent, not funding things that are elsewhere in the city and not even used by the one's paying. The BBC, mentions how the casino wants to stay part of the parish, this is all wrong. The casino wants to stay part of the city, the parish is a much larger entity. The casino, btw, knows its largest customer base are those that live in the "poorer" areas. Everyone, including St. George, would remain part of the parish. The BBC would do well to get that and other basic facts in order before launcing off on a race crusade.

I find it amusing that the BBC would come focus on a medium sized city in a southern US state to do some sensationalized reporting when they could go to East London and stir up all the drama they could require; or does that not adhere to their leftist agenda?

Anyway. O/T. Start a Village of St. George thread if you wish, let's keep this one on the original topic. smile





Edited by Jimbeaux on Tuesday 21st October 20:12

Mermaid

21,492 posts

171 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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Zod said:
Saudi Arabia is a country without the Rule of Law, ruled by a corrupt, cynical, self-serving extended family and a country that retains inhumane, archaic attitudes as you describe.

It does not, however, indulge in conquest, mass murder, mass enslavement and rape and does not threaten other countries. I'd love to have the Saudis dealt with, but IS is rather more of a priority.
Saudis should be mandated to deal with IS (they have the resources) - they are with us or against us,where is Dubya when you need him.

The root of all Muslim evil must be pretty close to Mecca or Medina.

TheRealFingers99

1,996 posts

128 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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Jimbeaux said:
I find it amusing that the BBC would come focus on a medium sized city in a southern US state to do some sensationalized reporting when they could go to East London and stir up all the drama they could require; or does that not adhere to their leftist agenda?
The BBC isn't leftist, just anti-American. wink

Spanglepants

1,743 posts

137 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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Jimbeaux, I was agreeing with you
Sorry wasn't more clear

Spanglepants

1,743 posts

137 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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To make sure there's no more confusion it was in relation to the Tower Hamlets and Newham observation.

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

231 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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Spanglepants said:
Jimbeaux, I was agreeing with you
Sorry wasn't more clear
Oh no problem, I just wasn't sure what you were asking. I've got it now. smile

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

231 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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TheRealFingers99 said:
Jimbeaux said:
I find it amusing that the BBC would come focus on a medium sized city in a southern US state to do some sensationalized reporting when they could go to East London and stir up all the drama they could require; or does that not adhere to their leftist agenda?
The BBC isn't leftist, just anti-American. wink
Ah, Communist then. wink

Muntu

7,635 posts

199 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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TheRealFingers99 said:
The BBC isn't leftist.
Are you sure about that? hehe

TheRealFingers99

1,996 posts

128 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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Jimbeaux said:
TheRealFingers99 said:
Jimbeaux said:
I find it amusing that the BBC would come focus on a medium sized city in a southern US state to do some sensationalized reporting when they could go to East London and stir up all the drama they could require; or does that not adhere to their leftist agenda?
The BBC isn't leftist, just anti-American. wink
Ah, Communist then. wink
Honestly, I look at all the UK news channels and can't really tell the difference. The stuff the BBC does on the World Service is a little different to Sky, but not a great deal. Can't get Fox, Al-Jazeera or RT any more, but those were noticeably different.

Maybe 60 Minutes should do Tower Hamlets?

devonshiredave

552 posts

202 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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Zod said:
but we should talk to them - they're reasonable people who will come to a mutually satisfactory accommodation with us.
I'd like to offer a more liberal view, of lets just clleanse them from the face of the earth. Them, their mates and especially that ex morrisons security guard. We should go old school in the execution of this strategy, give the good folk 7 days to leave or assemble at a number of predetermined safe-havens, after which we will lay waste to the whole area. Scorched earth wouldnt even come close.

Then we would actually help them rebuild their shattered country and stick around for long enough to make it work.

wc98

10,391 posts

140 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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Jimbeaux said:
There were some tribes in Afghanistan (cannot remember which ones TBH) that had a saying; "Little boys are for pleasure, women are for babies". Not sure how they squared that reasoning with Uncle Mo.
i thought that was the saudi royal family outlook .