US journalist beheaded by ISIS...
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egor110 said:
Normally on the enemy though not your colleagues.
If you were raped then sent out to fight alongside the people who raped you , wouldn't you get revenge now they've armed you?
I'd guess that the "married in" Daesh are pretty much treated as cannon fodder (as are the foreigners) and well watched. Only if they banded together -- and shame is a big barrier to organisation -- could they rebel effectively. If you were raped then sent out to fight alongside the people who raped you , wouldn't you get revenge now they've armed you?
TheRealFingers99 said:
egor110 said:
Normally on the enemy though not your colleagues.
If you were raped then sent out to fight alongside the people who raped you , wouldn't you get revenge now they've armed you?
I'd guess that the "married in" Daesh are pretty much treated as cannon fodder (as are the foreigners) and well watched. Only if they banded together -- and shame is a big barrier to organisation -- could they rebel effectively. If you were raped then sent out to fight alongside the people who raped you , wouldn't you get revenge now they've armed you?
egor110 said:
You've got a bloody machine gun, just look how many uk/us have been killed when a supposed allied soldier goes bad.
So have the 50 guys behind you. And the 50 in front who really, really, want you dead. And the guys back at base have a tape that they'll happily show your family, your village. To the second bit, in practical, war changing terms, not very many at all.
If it is happening in Daesh, we'd be the very last people to hear about it anyway.
RIP poor guy.
I think it was to be expected though.
The Kurds have been pretty successful in "sort of" ransoming low level, non-combatant, captives, like some of the Yazidi women, simply by using intermediaries to bribe those who ended up "owning" them, but there was no way that would be possible with a prestige captive.
I think it was to be expected though.
The Kurds have been pretty successful in "sort of" ransoming low level, non-combatant, captives, like some of the Yazidi women, simply by using intermediaries to bribe those who ended up "owning" them, but there was no way that would be possible with a prestige captive.
Butter Face said:
Another senseless murder.
Especially as he had 'converted' to islam.
If he had its no real difference to how certain types perceive European and american people. Over here they let them "join and ginger up" and let them gob off as and when. Doubt they think of them as brethren though. More likely just another UK mug.Especially as he had 'converted' to islam.
This morning the Daily Mail were hailing the story that Jihadi John had been mortally wounded in an air strike.
Within hours it's a totally different headline.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2836392/Is...
Clearly we are nowhere near finishing these nutters off.
Within hours it's a totally different headline.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2836392/Is...
Clearly we are nowhere near finishing these nutters off.
TTmonkey said:
This morning the Daily Mail were hailing the story that Jihadi John had been mortally wounded in an air strike.
Within hours it's a totally different headline.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2836392/Is...
Clearly we are nowhere near finishing these nutters off.
The Daily Mail thing is completely unconfirmed -- and probably unconfirmable. Who knows? It has no real significance anyway. Within hours it's a totally different headline.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2836392/Is...
Clearly we are nowhere near finishing these nutters off.
"We" are not really getting involved. Kobani needs another ammunition drop. No-one is taking Syrian refugees. Winter is coming. The Brits are giving the Kurds 60 year old Browning 50 calibre machine guns when they need artillery and anti-tank ammunition. Some decent tanks and APCs wouldn't go amiss.
In the meantime, Daesh has up to 200,000 recruits, according to some accounts.
TheRealFingers99 said:
In the meantime, Daesh has up to 200,000 recruits, according to some accounts.
Not wishing to spread our current disagreement over Israel to this thread but can I ask where you get 200,000 from? That does seem an incredibly high figure that they would struggle to equip, train and feed.Grumfutock said:
TheRealFingers99 said:
In the meantime, Daesh has up to 200,000 recruits, according to some accounts.
Not wishing to spread our current disagreement over Israel to this thread but can I ask where you get 200,000 from? That does seem an incredibly high figure that they would struggle to equip, train and feed.
It's from the Iraqi Kurds (the ones Turkey likes, not my mates!) so I'd treat it with some suspicion (was referenced, with some caution on BBC World News). Yet there is some logic to what the guy says:
"ERBIL-Hewlêr, Kurdistan region 'Iraq',— The West may have severely underestimated the strength of the Islamic State (IS) Sunni radical organisation, which may have raised an army of at least 200,000 fighters, a Kurdish leader has claimed.
This number is seven to eight times more than Western intelligence estimates of up to 31,500 fighters, said Fuad Hussein, the chief of staff of Kurdistan President Massoud Barzani, in an exclusive interview to The Independent on Sunday.
Hussein speculates that the CIA and US intelligence agencies may only have been speaking about "core" fighters in estimating the jihadis' numbers.
He said that the ability of the IS to attack on many widely separated fronts in Iraq and Syria at the same time is proof of its swelling numbers.
"They are fighting in Kobani," said Hussein. "In Kurdistan last month, they conducted assaults in seven different places as well as in Ramadi (the capital of the Anbar province, west of Baghdad) and Jalawla (an Arab-Kurdish town close to the Iranian border). It is impossible to talk of 20,000 men or so.""
Full piece is here, on KurdNet: http://www.ekurd.net/mismas/articles/misc2014/11/s...
None of my other Kurdish newsfeeds seem to have picked up on it yet.
Mind you, at the peak of the surge US troups were at just under 170,000 in Iraq alone.
(Just in case someone forgets which side I'm on!)
Edited by TheRealFingers99 on Sunday 16th November 11:40
ISIS Commanders Claimed to Have “Full Cooperation” with Turkey in Kurdish Genocide
This article is being tweeted. I've no idea how reliable it is. Wouldn't be a great surprise.
The piece concludes with "It’s time to kick Turkey out of NATO" but, unfortunately, there seems to be no mechanism to kick a country out.
This article is being tweeted. I've no idea how reliable it is. Wouldn't be a great surprise.
The piece concludes with "It’s time to kick Turkey out of NATO" but, unfortunately, there seems to be no mechanism to kick a country out.
Cant say I am surprised that Turkey might be turning a blind eye. Solves what they see as a problem and helps fellow members of the religion of peace. Shame that ISIS has stated they want to take part of Turkey as well. I wonder who he will scream for help at when and if tat happens.
Turkey is also run by a man who is losing all credibility:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-30067490
Turkey is also run by a man who is losing all credibility:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-30067490
Edited by Grumfutock on Sunday 16th November 20:05
He is one weird man is Erdogan.
The really strange thing is that a greater Kurdistan, from the Med to the Gulf, with status only as "autonomous confederated cantons" (thus not really challenging the identity of any of the states in the region) could work very well as a stabilising buffer zone for Turkey, Iraq and Kuwait. Not so sure that the Iranians would approve, though.
The really strange thing is that a greater Kurdistan, from the Med to the Gulf, with status only as "autonomous confederated cantons" (thus not really challenging the identity of any of the states in the region) could work very well as a stabilising buffer zone for Turkey, Iraq and Kuwait. Not so sure that the Iranians would approve, though.
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