US journalist beheaded by ISIS...

[Mermaid]

Grumfutock said:

The only problem with that plan is that you just gave away most of the Iraq oil fields. Never going to happen!

Long term - Kurdistan, Sunnistan & Shiastan - it's only the money that needs haggling over

[TheRealFingers99]

Grumfutock said:

The only problem with that plan is that you just gave away most of the Iraq oil fields. Never going to happen!

No need to take all the income from them. That can be sorted (in theory, it already has been, but there's wingeing from Erbil and Baghdad. "we want more oil", "we want more guns, and stop nicking our aid", etc.). Even the Rojava is an oil (and grain) exporter in more peaceful times.

[TheRealFingers99]

Found this cartoon:



Reported that YPG/YPJ and FSA have 70% of Kobani city -- ISIS isolated in east of city without realistic hope of re-supply.

[gpo746]

The scouse house must be buzzing with all the updates

[Blaster72]

TheRealFingers99 said:

If it is happening in Daesh, we'd be the very last people to hear about it anyway.

What's this Daesh you speak of, have Al Q er I mean ISIS, I mean IS changed their name yet again??

[benjj]

Blaster72 said:

What's this Daesh you speak of, have Al Q er I mean ISIS, I mean IS changed their name yet again??

It's the name that Arabs call ISIS and has disparaging connotations. The French got behind it. Now in the media.

[Mermaid]

benjj said:

Blaster72 said:

What's this Daesh you speak of, have Al Q er I mean ISIS, I mean IS changed their name yet again??

It's the name that Arabs call ISIS and has disparaging connotations. The French got behind it. Now in the media.

IS is good enough, the yankee dudes insist on calling them ISIL

[TheRealFingers99]

Mermaid said:

IS is good enough, the yankee dudes insist on calling them ISIL

But IS contains the I word -- which really has faff all to do with them. (After all, most of the people they're killing, and most of the land they're trying to conquer, are/is Muslim.

[Muntu]

TheRealFingers99 said:

But IS contains the I word -- which really has faff all to do with them.

They would beg to differ. They have probably been studying their Koran a lot more than you have too

[Jimbeaux]

Mermaid said:

benjj said:

Blaster72 said:

What's this Daesh you speak of, have Al Q er I mean ISIS, I mean IS changed their name yet again??

It's the name that Arabs call ISIS and has disparaging connotations. The French got behind it. Now in the media.

IS is good enough, the yankee dudes insist on calling them ISIL

Not this one.

[TheRealFingers99]

Muntu said:

They would beg to differ. They have probably been studying their Koran a lot more than you have too

But they could have got pretty much the same gibberish from the Old Testament (pointing this out has become a neat side line for Dawkins) or, come to think of it, sacred Hindu texts.

Daesh is about power and control, religion is just a means to that end.

Think of them as latter day Crusaders.

[Jimbeaux]

TheRealFingers99 said:

Muntu said:

They would beg to differ. They have probably been studying their Koran a lot more than you have too

But they could have got pretty much the same gibberish from the Old Testament (pointing this out has become a neat side line for Dawkins) or, come to think of it, sacred Hindu texts.

Daesh is about power and control, religion is just a means to that end.

Think of them as latter day Crusaders.

So, in other words, think of them as having not moved on after 700 years? Got it.

[Jimbeaux]

Looks as if a Frenchman may have been in on the recent beheadings:

http://www.wafb.com/story/27401445/frenchman-thoug...

[TheRealFingers99]

Jimbeaux said:

So, in other words, think of them as having not moved on after 700 years? Got it.

That's pretty much what latter day means, don't you think? If it floats your boat, sure.

[Muntu]

TheRealFingers99 said:

Muntu said:

They would beg to differ. They have probably been studying their Koran a lot more than you have too

But they could have got pretty much the same gibberish from the Old Testament (pointing this out has become a neat side line for Dawkins) or, come to think of it, sacred Hindu texts.

Daesh is about power and control, religion is just a means to that end.

Think of them as latter day Crusaders.

They are muslims, taking their guidance from the Koran and the actions of big Mo. Polish the turd and throw glitter at it as much as you want, you aren't fooling anybody

[TheRealFingers99]

Muntu said:

They are muslims, taking their guidance from the Koran and the actions of big Mo. Polish the turd and throw glitter at it as much as you want, you aren't fooling anybody

So, the Muslims who are killing them?

Religion sucks, heval, but tarring all believers with the same brush doesn't cut it. It just turns you into another extremist nutter.

[supersingle]

TheRealFingers99 said:

Muntu said:

They are muslims, taking their guidance from the Koran and the actions of big Mo. Polish the turd and throw glitter at it as much as you want, you aren't fooling anybody

So, the Muslims who are killing them?

Religion sucks, heval, but tarring all believers with the same brush doesn't cut it. It just turns you into another extremist nutter.

The radically contemplative Buddhists really get on my wick.

[Muntu]

TheRealFingers99 said:

Muntu said:

They are muslims, taking their guidance from the Koran and the actions of big Mo. Polish the turd and throw glitter at it as much as you want, you aren't fooling anybody

So, the Muslims who are killing them?

Religion sucks, heval, but tarring all believers with the same brush doesn't cut it. It just turns you into another extremist nutter.

If I were busy sawing somebody's head off I would be an extremist nutter. Posting an opinion does not put one into that camp.

Nobody has tarred everybody with the same brush. I have painted a more factual picture that you, if we are to use your crap analogy.

[TheRealFingers99]

Muntu said:

If I were busy sawing somebody's head off I would be an extremist nutter. Posting an opinion does not put one into that camp.

Nobody has tarred everybody with the same brush. I have painted a more factual picture that you, if we are to use your crap analogy.

I should have said "tarring all believers of the same faith with the same brush.........."

Let's assume that Jimbeaux's neighbour is a Christian (it's probably a fair assumption). Should we ask Jimbeaux how many abortionists his neighbour has shot today?

[Muntu]

TheRealFingers99 said:

I should have said "tarring all believers of the same faith with the same brush.........."

Nobody has tarred all believers of the same faith with the same brush. It may be an inconvenient truth that Islamic State are, well, Islamic (muslims), but truth it is.

I don't remember anybody suggesting that all muslims are potential Islamic State members.