US journalist beheaded by ISIS...

US journalist beheaded by ISIS...

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Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

232 months

Tuesday 18th November 2014
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TheRealFingers99 said:
So where is the anomaly?

1. Daesh is mainly killing Muslims.
2. Muslims are mainly killing Daesh.

Simple enough for you?
It's been simple enough for me, and apparently most everyone else on here. Not sure what your confusion is.

TheRealFingers99

1,996 posts

129 months

Tuesday 18th November 2014
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Jimbeaux said:
It's been simple enough for me, and apparently most everyone else on here. Not sure what your confusion is.
And the anomaly?

TheRealFingers99

1,996 posts

129 months

Tuesday 18th November 2014
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Meanwhile Basnews is reporting that the Peshmerga are finally to receive Tanks and "heavy weapons" from the USA.

Looks like the YPG and YPJ will have to make do with home-made stuff



or stuff nicked from Daesh


Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

232 months

Tuesday 18th November 2014
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TheRealFingers99 said:
Jimbeaux said:
It's been simple enough for me, and apparently most everyone else on here. Not sure what your confusion is.
And the anomaly?
I already told you that. Let's try once more. The miniscule amount of abortionist shot (less in totality than one day of Muslim Infidel control action)rates as not simply a quantity difference but so hyper-infrequent that it is an anomoly compared to the thousands of headless adults and babies, courtesy of self proclaimed Muslims, that comprises a trend.

TheRealFingers99

1,996 posts

129 months

Tuesday 18th November 2014
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I'm not sure that that's greatly reassuring, should you happen to be an abortionist in America.

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

232 months

Tuesday 18th November 2014
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TheRealFingers99 said:
I'm not sure that that's greatly reassuring, should you happen to be an abortionist in America.
I'm equally unsure that has anything to do with a thread about ISIS beheadings.

TheRealFingers99

1,996 posts

129 months

Tuesday 18th November 2014
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Indeed. But you're the one who continued it. beer

Maybe the Republicans in Texas will press for tanks for the YPG/YPJ? I mean, they have corn, cotton, wheat, desert and nodding donkeys, too? Must be just like us!

Edited by TheRealFingers99 on Tuesday 18th November 17:36

TheRealFingers99

1,996 posts

129 months

Tuesday 18th November 2014
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Fuad Nahdi, first Muslim to address the General Synod of the Church of England has a fine piece in the Guardian. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/belief/20...

Mermaid

21,492 posts

172 months

Tuesday 18th November 2014
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TheRealFingers99 said:
Fuad Nahdi, first Muslim to address the General Synod of the Church of England has a fine piece in the Guardian. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/belief/20...
Will he enjoy such fine coverage in Muslim lands?

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

232 months

Tuesday 18th November 2014
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TheRealFingers99 said:
Indeed. But you're the one who continued it. beer

Maybe the Republicans in Texas will press for tanks for the YPG/YPJ? I mean, they have corn, cotton, wheat, desert and nodding donkeys, too? Must be just like us!

Edited by TheRealFingers99 on Tuesday 18th November 17:36
Not quite sure of everything you just said, but always willing to share a beer! beer

TheRealFingers99

1,996 posts

129 months

Tuesday 18th November 2014
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Mermaid said:
Will he enjoy such fine coverage in Muslim lands?
I don't know. And I can't really check to find links because my Arabic amounts to "I'm bored, darling, don't forget the pineapple", "thank you", "hello", "goodbye", "God is great", "wow! God is great!" and "I swear by God" and I can't read it. (All my Arabic was picked up in takeaways and from a Somali girl friend -- it was her second language, after 2 dialects of Somali, -- she was also fluent in Italian and English -- and not a very good Muslim, but a believer, non the less.)

But were you to contact the Guardian, they'd probably tell you who it was syndicated to, who picked it up. You'd be surprised, I think.

Of course, in the Rojava it's old news -- Muslims work, live, die and fight alongside Christians, Arabs, Atheists and "Devil Worshippers".

gpo746

3,397 posts

131 months

Wednesday 19th November 2014
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So there you have it Scouse house can't see the difference between a wholesale massacre of anyone that isn't a particular brand/ flavour of the month radical Islamic fukhead and the odd incident of an abortion doctor getting nobbled by a US nutter.

Thats about it really

TheRealFingers99

1,996 posts

129 months

Wednesday 19th November 2014
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gpo746 said:
So there you have it Scouse house can't see the difference between a wholesale massacre of anyone that isn't a particular brand/ flavour of the month radical Islamic fukhead and the odd incident of an abortion doctor getting nobbled by a US nutter.

Thats about it really
Of course I can.

But the terror campaign against abortionists wasn't just the odd incident. Indeed, home grown, "Christian" US terrorism remains dangerous.

Obviously, since the ranking Muslim haters on here couldn't take the point that the folk killing IS were (tadah!) pretty much all Muslims, I decided to open a (rhetorical) second front.

TheRealFingers99

1,996 posts

129 months

Wednesday 19th November 2014
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Jimbeaux said:
TheRealFingers99 said:
Indeed. But you're the one who continued it. beer

Maybe the Republicans in Texas will press for tanks for the YPG/YPJ? I mean, they have corn, cotton, wheat, desert and nodding donkeys, too? Must be just like us!

Edited by TheRealFingers99 on Tuesday 18th November 17:36
Not quite sure of everything you just said, but always willing to share a beer! beer
How did I forget the line dancing? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G9Xw3trPpc

TheRealFingers99

1,996 posts

129 months

Wednesday 19th November 2014
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In good news

It's claimed that there may only be 250 ISIS left in Kobani town, possibly they'll be gone within a week. http://touch.latimes.com/#section/613/article/p2p-...

The big Iraqi refinery at Baiji has been retaken http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-eas...

Offensive in Diyala, to NE of Baghdad. with Peshmerga and Shiite militia involved. http://rudaw.net/english/kurdistan/19112014

In bad news

car bomb in Erbil by Daesh -- follows similar in Baghdad. Looks like this will become more of a pattern as ISIS are currently getting whacked on the battlefield. http://basnews.com/en/news/2014/11/19/kurdish-offi...

Isis has enough weapons to carry on fighting for two years, UN warns

photosnob

1,339 posts

119 months

Wednesday 19th November 2014
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What is the feeling on whats going to happen next?

Clearly they are not keen on executing the women who isn't meant to be id'd. And John Cantlie doesn't seem to have been threatened directly yet...

I'd like to say that my guy says that is good. But something is telling me that something truly barbaric or horrendous is going to be done. They are clearly trying to goad us into a ground war - which now looks unlikely. So I'm not looking forward to what is coming up.

toppstuff

13,698 posts

248 months

Wednesday 19th November 2014
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I think the tide is turning agains the Daesh IS.

As they start to lose momentum militarily, they will switch tactics to more terror-based activity IMO.

2015 will see the lands they have taken gradually taken back.

At the same time, the shadowy figures that support IS will start to lose interest as the western intelligence agencies close in on them.

Give it 3 years and I think IS will be finished.

We will probably never know what really happened behind all of this - who created IS and what was agreed that resulted in it all ending.


TheRealFingers99

1,996 posts

129 months

Wednesday 19th November 2014
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For the hostages, who knows? I can't really see them executing John Cantlie now unless they can manage to scapegoat him for the defeat at Kobani (which would be quite a leap, even for them).

For the boots on the ground stuff, the Americans are talking about just that for Mosul (campaign slated for early 2015) but if Mosul can be surrounded I doubt it would be necessary, let alone sensible.

Still, the Americans have snatched defeat from the jaws of victory in the ME before now.

More of the same should get the job done with heavy weapons for the Kurds in Erbil and Rojava. And there are always the Iranians and the PJAK to dash in like the 7th cavalry if things go really pear shaped.

2 years, I'd guess, for the former Iraq (which may even survive as some sort of confederation).

Syria will take longer -- there are two elephants in the corner, Assad and Turkey.

Mermaid

21,492 posts

172 months

Wednesday 19th November 2014
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toppstuff said:
I think the tide is turning agains the Daesh IS.

As they start to lose momentum militarily, they will switch tactics to more terror-based activity IMO.

2015 will see the lands they have taken gradually taken back.

At the same time, the shadowy figures that support IS will start to lose interest as the western intelligence agencies close in on them.

Give it 3 years and I think IS will be finished.

We will probably never know what really happened behind all of this - who created IS and what was agreed that resulted in it all ending.
Let's just blame the Saudis (more cause than WMD) & launch a war against them (share the proceeds) - there will be a decent sized coalition of the willing.

TheRealFingers99

1,996 posts

129 months

Thursday 20th November 2014
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ISIS Mosul governor killed in air strike along with 3 other leaders.